If eating trash makes us sick, why do we keep eating it?

mccindy72 wrote: »

This pretty much sums it up!

Baking soda? That's the poison? Of course it cleans stuff and scrubs stuff and if you blast it on stuff it will be called "sodablasting."

I also cook with it because.....BAKING SODA.

Kruggeri wrote: »

LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »

Kruggeri wrote: »

LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »

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Point your toes.

Much better, although the degree of difficulty is much lower on this one.

I give the first one a 9.3 and this one an 8.7.

Seriously - nice work!

LOL, thanks. That was my first 5132 ever. I was just trying not to faceplant.

"GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »

I encourage everyone to givd up junk food for a period of time, try having your children give it up and then tell me it's not toxic and addictive.

First, yes, I responded to the OP in a way I think is helpful to his concerns. I don't think telling him he lacks the ability to stop overeating because he is an "addict" is helpful.

But you continue to use the term "junk food" without defining it and I have no idea what you mean. For example, you claim that 90% of the food in my grocery store is toxic or some such, when the vast majority of the food there is meat, vegetables, fruit, other whole foods, beans and pasta, bread, a wide variety of dairy, a wide variety of stuff like cooking oil, vinegar, mustard and other condiments, so on. I really don't get how anywhere near 90% is problematic even if one is against TV dinner type foods (and while I don't like them, there's a huge range of those, even, with them varying quite a lot in ingredients and calories, I know Dr. Ornish was involved with one brand, for example).

It basically sounds like people don't want to take responsibility for their own choices, so insist they couldn't help it, they were "addicted" or "brain-washed" or "duped" somehow. Not me.

Setting all that aside, I know you consider fast food junk food, so for that part of this I've done it. I stopped eating fast food (McD's and the like, I do eat Chipotle on occasion) back in 2003, and since then I have eaten it only very rarely, when on road trips. Of course, I somehow managed to gain a ridiculous amount of weight (now lost) even without that food, but having had the experience of giving it up I don't see how it was "toxic" and "addictive." Certainly not the latter, and while I don't personally think fast food is all that tasty and haven't since I was a child--when we were permitted to have it on rare occasions, not all the time--I can't say eliminating it from my life made any difference to how I felt or my health (which was just fine in 2003). Maybe I didn't eat it enough, but if someone chooses to eat fast food (which presumably means they also eat few veggies and fruits and too many calories, if they don't choose very carefully) basically every day, the problem isn't the food so much as the overall diet and poor choices. Again, personal responsibility.

I also--as I said before--find the idea that people eat TV dinners and McD's and candy because they are somehow irresistibly delicious in some new way utterly bizarre. What they are is super convenient. People don't want to cook, often don't know how to cook, but they can buy this stuff. People wouldn't think to bake a batch of cookies every day, but the eat the equivalent since they can just go buy it. It's just a failure to use restraint.

Indeed, part of how I gained weight was because one perk of my lifestyle was the opportunity to eat at high quality restaurants, and I was too indulgent when I did (i.e., thinking of something I did 3 times a week as a special occasion). Here, the food itself probably isn't much different than what I cook at home (except more butter, I'm sure), and none of the restaurants advertised (I cannot think of one food item I've ever eaten due to an ad), but I gained weight and if I'd kept it on long term there's a good chance it would have hurt my health. Again, not because it was toxic and addictive, but because I overate. Why did I overeat? It was tasty and I felt like I was super controlled in all kinds of other ways, so compensated by being way too indulgent about food.

If we want to understand it, I think we need to understand human nature and not just make excuses about why we couldn't help it or it was McD's fault. Plenty of people eat McD's on occasion and aren't fat or sick.

longtimeterp wrote: »

GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »

Sodium bicarbonate is used in a process for removing paint and corrosion called sodablasting; the process is particularly suitable for cleaning aluminium panels which can be distorted by other types of abrasive. It can be administered to pools, spas, and garden ponds to raise pH levels.[11] It has weak disinfectant properties,[12][13] and it may be an effective fungicide against some organisms.[14] Because baking soda will absorb musty smells, it has become a reliable method for used-book sellers when making books less malodorous.[15]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bicarbonate

a quote directly from that article too, which inclines me to believe it was never even read...

"the only completely non-toxic ingredients are the onion powder, sodium bicarbonate, and the garlic powder."

Hah good catch...

http://www.earthclinic.com/mobile/remedies/baking_soda.html

Oh my! Baking soda aids in removing toxins from the body! This is what will ultimately kill all the still undefined toxins! I only found this out, because I decided to be proactive and Google! This must be true because the website contains the words earth and clinic, and since the earth sustains life, this article is absolutely credible, because context is overrated, amirite? Amazing.

I'm not turning this into a baking soda debate and I'm finished being talked down to by immature people. I am however encouraging everyone to eat less junk and more nutrient dense food, that's all. I, personally, don't want anything in my body that is used to remove paint when I have all the macro and micro nutrients available to me through natural and unprocessed foods.

Good luck all. I wish you guys the best. And don't say I'm running, I've spent a good part of my day debating with you guys. I'm tired now and need to get some stuff done!

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GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »

I'm not turning this into a baking soda debate and I'm finished being talked down to by immature people. I am however encouraging everyone to eat less junk and more nutrient dense food, that's all. I, personally, don't want anything in my body that is used to remove paint when I have all the macro and micro nutrients available to me through natural and unprocessed foods.

Good luck all. I wish you guys the best. And don't say I'm running, I've spent a good part of my day debating with you guys. I'm tired now and need to get some stuff done!

That's not debating...

GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »

I'm not turning this into a baking soda debate and I'm finished being talked down to by immature people. I am however encouraging everyone to eat less junk and more nutrient dense food, that's all. I, personally, don't want anything in my body that is used to remove paint when I have all the macro and micro nutrients available to me through natural and unprocessed foods.

Good luck all. I wish you guys the best. And don't say I'm running, I've spent a good part of my day debating with you guys. I'm tired now and need to get some stuff done!

Baking soda is natural.

Water removes water soluble paint.

It is too bad your diary isn't open.

__drmerc__ wrote: »

I feel stupider having read this thread

The level of ignorance in basic science is staggering, and very depressing.

GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »

I'm not turning this into a baking soda debate and I'm finished being talked down to by immature people. I am however encouraging everyone to eat less junk and more nutrient dense food, that's all. I, personally, don't want anything in my body that is used to remove paint when I have all the macro and micro nutrients available to me through natural and unprocessed foods.

Good luck all. I wish you guys the best. And don't say I'm running, I've spent a good part of my day debating with you guys. I'm tired now and need to get some stuff done!

One can use bananas to whiten teeth. Lemons polish some metals like a champ. Penicillin is a fungus. Orange peel makes a great cleaner. Mayo removes water stains from wood. Cucumbers remove wrinkles. Cayenne pepper on the floorboards deters ants. Just because something has an alternative use does not make it toxic.

Hahahaha at this thread and at baking soda!! This is hilariously entertaining. I used baking soda last night on my face after a peel and I believe it's in my tooth paste that I have. I think my face is going to fall off and my teeth are going to fall out.

Also in the cake I ate....I need to see a doctor asap cause of the toxins!

Wait..baking soda is now toxic? I see food fear mongering has reached new heights. Who would have thought that was possible?