'Muscle weighs more than fat' ???

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  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
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    rabbitjb wrote: »
    For muscle weighs more than fat the "by volume" is implied

    Stop being a pedant


    Amen. Shouldn't have opened this thread, it's just a waste of time.
  • Cherimoose
    Cherimoose Posts: 5,209 Member
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    diannethegeek wrote: »
    Can we all just agree that it's a moot point aboit semantics and get back to arguing about whether or not you can put on muscle in a deficit? Because that's really the more important point when people use this phrase.

    Yes, the phrase is often used when someone really means, "the muscle weight you gain offsets any fat weight you lose".
    I won't rehash the old argument about whether you can gain muscle fiber size in a deficit, but it's well-known that increasing exercise can increase fluid retention within muscles during the repair process, and also through increased glycogen storage. Almost every day someone on these forums asks why they gained weight when all they changed was their exercise level.

    I'm posting this as a professionally qualified internet forum poster.


  • seabee78
    seabee78 Posts: 126 Member
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    Think of it this way: A lb of lead would be like, maybe, the size of a hockey puck. A lb of Corn Flakes would be like the double-jumbo family size at Costco. A very muscular person would be smaller yet heavier than a fluffy, fat person.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
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    So muscle doesn't weigh more than fat because 1 lb of fat weighs the same as 1 lb of muscle? Wow...so I guess steel doesn't weigh more than foam peanuts since 1 lb of steel weighs the same as 1 lb of peanuts.

    Oh? It's just more dense? Same difference. The idea of something being heavier than something else naturally bears out in the mind of all logical people that it is only heavier "by volume." It's automatically implied and understood.

    These kinds of symantecs are as useless as they are annoying.

    The reason we continue to encourage people that muscle weighs more than fat (and it does, for crying out loud) is because people sometimes notice that their clothes are getting looser but the scale hasn't changed. The reason for this is because they are exercising and gaining muscle at about the same rate they are losing fat (totally possible and common with newbie gains). So when they gain 1lb of muscle but lose 1lb of fat they weigh the same but don't take up as much space (because they're denser now, taking up less volume).
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    So muscle doesn't weigh more than fat because 1 lb of fat weighs the same as 1 lb of muscle? Wow...so I guess steel doesn't weigh more than foam peanuts since 1 lb of steel weighs the same as 1 lb of peanuts.

    Oh? It's just more dense? Same difference. The idea of something being heavier than something else naturally bears out in the mind of all logical people that it is only heavier "by volume." It's automatically implied and understood.

    These kinds of symantecs are as useless as they are annoying.

    The reason we continue to encourage people that muscle weighs more than fat (and it does, for crying out loud) is because people sometimes notice that their clothes are getting looser but the scale hasn't changed. The reason for this is because they are exercising and gaining muscle at about the same rate they are losing fat (totally possible and common with newbie gains). So when they gain 1lb of muscle but lose 1lb of fat they weigh the same but don't take up as much space (because they're denser now, taking up less volume).

    It really isn't at all possible to gain muscle at the same rate as fat loss. The scale doesn't move for those people because of water retention.
  • Fizz500d
    Fizz500d Posts: 9 Member
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    “By Volume” is not always implied and understood by people using this in discussion. I’ve had a few people straight out say “yes but muscle weighs more than fat” period and had to use the 1tonne of lead is the same as 1tonne of feathers, it just means you’ll need a heck of a lot more feathers than lead to get to the weight analogy.

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