Potatoes, rice, bread and all that stuff

britishbroccoli wrote: »

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

MrM27 wrote: »

I've never heard that bread, rice specifically should be 1/4 of the place.

"my plate" (the government) suggests 1/4 of the plate be grains. So it's a logical conclusion.

1/4 plate does not mean literally taking up 1/4 of the plate's surface.

One of my favorite dinner foods is vegetarian chicken tenders. They're battered in whole grains. I dip them in Italian dressing. That meal has a ton of carbohydrates (40+ grams)/grains. Most things people eat are not purely broken into the categories shown on choosemyplate.gov.

I just went to that site and find it odd that dairy is only allowed to be served in a glass. I don't like having my cheese in a glass.

eric_sg61 wrote: »

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F1tnessCh1ck wrote: »

it's not necessary to have carbs at every meal. I eat them, but I usually try to eat them earlier in the day along with my fruit. once or twice a week I will have them for dinner. But if you're going to have them, brown rice, sweet potatoes, quinoa, brown bread - never ever ever ever white anything! It's crap.

Can you please explain what makes white rice, white bread or regular potatoes crap? Be specific.

100+ year old Asians are being slooowly killed by them

SO what about 100 year smokers - would you then say that smoking is good for you!

I think every society have people that live to a ripe old age, I'm not sure that advocates anything!!

Is smoking a commonality amongst 100 year olds? Last I check it wasn't. The dietary commonalities amongst the longest living, healthiest populations are highcarb/starch, plant -based diets.

I don't agree that smoking can ever be good for you but my grandfather was 94 and smoked since he was 11. I wonder sometimes if it was because he rolled his own cigarettes.

SueInAz wrote: »

I was brought up believing that a meal needed to contain a lean protein, a starchy side dish and a vegetable. I think a lot of us older folk were.

Dinner, sure, although it didn't have to be lean. That's still my understanding of the standard American diet, meat, potatoes, and a veg, although somehow it seems to mean fast food or something to people today.

Standard lunch was a sandwich often enough that I guess that counts too.

Never heard anyone claim you needed a starch/grains at breakfast although obviously bread or cereal are common enough then.

I agree with you that it's obviously not necessary at any meal, let alone all three, however. I eat plenty of starchy carbs, but don't feel like they are ever required for a meal.

mbcieslak87 wrote: »

I'm eating a French baguette right now and it's delicious! Everything in moderation!

I just started drooling a little

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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

LolBroScience wrote: »

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jeansuza wrote: »

Question: Health-wise, if you eat enough proteins, lots of veggies and fruits, some milk or yogurt, do you really need to eat rice, potatoes or bread at every meal? I use to hear that they should be 1/4 of your plate, but is this just propaganda?

You never "need" to eat starchy carbs. You can. But you never "need to". You certainly never "need" to eat refined grains (store bought bread, pastas etc).
I eat bread *maybe* once a week, if that, and when I do it's 100% whole grain. I eat some brown rice (+- 1 cup a week?). I eat a sweet potato once a month or so. I eat 100% whole grain pasta once every few weeks or so.
I get plenty of carbs from fruits, veggies and dairy.

I do

You "need" to? ok.

For performance purposes, yes.

if you say so. I've seen some great stuff from low carbers, and lots from folks who don't eat grains at all. But sure, if you do for your intense exercise or body building or whatever, ok.
Does the OP? probably not.

That's why I said, "I do" and not "OP does". The material out there comparing low carb diets of athletes to those which consume carbohydrate rich diets is weighted heavily in favor of the latter.

I do, and I'm not a bodybuilder. Just based on my own observation, I personally need some carb source in every meal or I end up shaky and nauseated 1-2 hours after I eat. It doesn't have to be grains or potatoes -- any kind of vegetable, fruit or starch is fine -- but my body says carbs are necessary for me.

So any kind of vegetable...fruit.... I never said carbs weren't necessary. Read my reply.

Technically you don't *need* to eat any particular thing. You need to eat a good assembly of things, but not one particular thing. Ultimately, what that assembly is depends on your taste buds, culture, and macro goals (if any).