Fasting after a "cheat" day?

SolidGoaled
SolidGoaled Posts: 504 Member
edited September 26 in Health and Weight Loss
I talked to a friend today who has an all-out cheat once per month, than he fasts the following day and only has water and vegetable juice in order to spread the "cheat" day calories across two days to soften the blow a bit. Does anyone have any opinions about this tactic?
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  • godroxmysox
    godroxmysox Posts: 1,491 Member
    Sounds really unhealthy...
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,321 Member
    Sounds really unhealthy...

    Why do you say that?
  • realme56
    realme56 Posts: 1,093 Member
    Your body does not "remember" that you went nuts yesterday, it only knows that it is starving today. It messes with your blood sugar levels and overall metabolism
  • SolidGoaled
    SolidGoaled Posts: 504 Member
    Really unhealthy? Why do you think so? I actually was intrigued by the idea. ???
  • JEK717
    JEK717 Posts: 1,497
    I talked to a friend today who has an all-out cheat once per month, than he fasts the following day and only has water and vegetable juice in order to spread the "cheat" day calories across two days to soften the blow a bit. Does anyone have any opinions about this tactic?

    I think as long as you do something constantly it should be fine. I would not totally go all out with the junk or cheat food but a little bit should be fine. I think everyone should have a cheat day every so often:)
  • concordancia
    concordancia Posts: 5,320 Member
    Sounds really unhealthy...

    Why do you say that?

    Not all bulimics binge and purge - many binge and fast.
  • godroxmysox
    godroxmysox Posts: 1,491 Member
    Your body does not "remember" that you went nuts yesterday, it only knows that it is starving today. It messes with your blood sugar levels and overall metabolism

    Exactly!
  • SolidGoaled
    SolidGoaled Posts: 504 Member
    Your body does not "remember" that you went nuts yesterday, it only knows that it is starving today. It messes with your blood sugar levels and overall metabolism

    By that logic, then the THIRD day, your body wouldn't remember that it was "starving" the day prior, though, no? I am sure that it could possibly throw sugar levels off, but, shaking up the metabolism would be a good thing, wouldn't it?
  • k2d4p
    k2d4p Posts: 441 Member
    I dispise the word cheat with regards to food. I think that he is being a little ignorant in changing his eating habits so drastically from day to day. You can't spread your calories over 2 days.

    That is like saying I am going to take a 5 hour shower today because I don't have time to shower tommorrow and I can spread the shower over 2 days. Every day starts new. Just my opinion.
  • NeonNikki
    NeonNikki Posts: 87 Member
    I dont think it's unhealthy at all-you don't go into starvation mode after a day-especially if u ate alot b4.
  • kettlewitch
    kettlewitch Posts: 277 Member
    Have a bad day, move on. Bi ge then fast is an ed
  • l3xii
    l3xii Posts: 160
    Your body does not "remember" that you went nuts yesterday, it only knows that it is starving today. It messes with your blood sugar levels and overall metabolism

    By that logic, then the THIRD day, your body wouldn't remember that it was "starving" the day prior, though, no? I am sure that it could possibly throw sugar levels off, but, shaking up the metabolism would be a good thing, wouldn't it?
    Yes it would
  • kettlewitch
    kettlewitch Posts: 277 Member
    Have a bad day, move on. Binge then fast s an Ed. Go over one day by 1000? Maybe cut down 100 a day ov er next 10 days
  • l3xii
    l3xii Posts: 160
    I dispise the word cheat with regards to food. I think that he is being a little ignorant in changing his eating habits so drastically from day to day. You can't spread your calories over 2 days.

    That is like saying I am going to take a 5 hour shower today because I don't have time to shower tommorrow and I can spread the shower over 2 days. Every day starts new. Just my opinion.
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • l3xii
    l3xii Posts: 160
    I dont think it's unhealthy at all-you don't go into starvation mode after a day-especially if u ate alot b4.
    i agree
  • RadicalCharlie
    RadicalCharlie Posts: 123 Member
    It's not a bad thing.

    I'd do it. It evens out.
  • SolidGoaled
    SolidGoaled Posts: 504 Member
    Have a bad day, move on. Bi ge then fast is an ed

    Binge/fast as an ED is something I've never heard of, so I admit I am/was ignorant on that topic so my mind never thought to go there. This person who I know who practices this is a healthy, well-balanced physically fit individual. At least outwardly. Many people fast once per month for health reasons, and sometimes they do eat more the day before the fast - so labeling everyone who practices this as ED seems unfair.

    How about eat-stop-eat? That is also an eating style that incorporates bigger meals with periods of fasting in between. Is this an "ED" too?
  • Naomi91
    Naomi91 Posts: 892 Member
    Your body does not "remember" that you went nuts yesterday, it only knows that it is starving today. It messes with your blood sugar levels and overall metabolism

    really does not have an impact on the metabolism. Fasting is actually very beneficial
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,321 Member
    There is nothing wrong with even up to a 36 hour fast. It will not slow your metabolism at all, in fact for at least the first 24 hours it actually speeds up your metabolism, increases your insulin sensitivity, increases growth homone and the hormone glucagon. All these are beneficial for losing fat. On top of that your body doesn't run on a clock. It will keep digesting that big amount of food for at least 18 hours, maybe more if it has a lot of protein in it. The only negative I would see in this is fasting which is not an unhealthy activity turns into a punishment for over eating. Check out intermittent fasting through google sometime.
  • SolidGoaled
    SolidGoaled Posts: 504 Member
    Have a bad day, move on. Binge then fast s an Ed. Go over one day by 1000? Maybe cut down 100 a day ov er next 10 days

    C'mon! I don't see the difference, here??
  • SolidGoaled
    SolidGoaled Posts: 504 Member
    Your body does not "remember" that you went nuts yesterday, it only knows that it is starving today. It messes with your blood sugar levels and overall metabolism

    really does not have an impact on the metabolism. Fasting is actually very beneficial


    I would be interested in hearing what the benefits are of fasting, if you would be so kind to list some. :)
  • NeonNikki
    NeonNikki Posts: 87 Member
    Binging and fasting as a habit is probably not a healthy was to live-but when I have family get togethers I like to eat lots of goodies -I'm usually either not hungry the next day or a bit sick of food-I've never sated completely-I just eat a lot less. An Ed is a pyschological problem
  • Naomi91
    Naomi91 Posts: 892 Member
    Have a bad day, move on. Binge then fast s an Ed. Go over one day by 1000? Maybe cut down 100 a day ov er next 10 days

    No its not always considered an ED. I do fasting about once a week sometimes. Refeed saturday the fast Sunday.
  • Naomi91
    Naomi91 Posts: 892 Member
    Your body does not "remember" that you went nuts yesterday, it only knows that it is starving today. It messes with your blood sugar levels and overall metabolism

    really does not have an impact on the metabolism. Fasting is actually very beneficial

    well i could do something even better! WIll give you an AMAZING link :D

    here is a good place to start on the site: http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html

    i think its best to have him explain it to you rather then me xD
    I would be interested in hearing what the benefits are of fasting, if you would be so kind to list some. :)
  • taso42_DELETED
    taso42_DELETED Posts: 3,394 Member
    There is really no need to do anything weird to lose weight. Fasting after a "cheat day" sounds pretty weird to me.
  • tnknights
    tnknights Posts: 23
    The "smartest" thing to do is after a cheat / overeat / just didn't care day is to get back to your normal routine the next day. Everyone has heard that anything under 1200 and your body goes into survival mode.
  • kettlewitch
    kettlewitch Posts: 277 Member
    At the risk of annoying people, it's all bollocks. Oooh I ate some sugar so I must flagellate until I've purged my guilt. Exercise restraint on most days, go wild with the sugar on others. Make sure the good days are more numerous than the bad. There is no magic formula, a calculator wontmake you a size whatever.
  • realme56
    realme56 Posts: 1,093 Member
    This guy may get away with it cause he is "healthy" but it would not be for everyone. I don't think that a "cheat" is bad but gorging one day and starving the next can create an unhealthy psyche and develop into an ED in folks with such a predisposition.
  • kewkdb
    kewkdb Posts: 207 Member
    I'd rather run for 2-3hrs than fast :\
  • matwood74
    matwood74 Posts: 111
    The answers here are sooooooo divided..... yet they all make sense to me!!! Uh oh!!!:laugh: :laugh:
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