How is this possible?

Your numbers seem off to me, but I'm not going to argue that stuff, instead I'm just going to give you advice based on your initial post....

You need to evaluate what food you are putting in your mouth. Processed junk food will leave you hungry. Eating whole, raw, natural foods will keep you fuller longer and for less calories (so you get to eat more!). For instance a few weeks ago I swapped a green smoothie for a chocolate almond milk smoothie. It cut out 50 calories and leaves me fuller longer.

And logging every day is very helpful if you are trying to lose. I find it helps keep me from eating a little extra because I "think" I have a 1-200 calorie wiggle room. Save your meals and enter them in one click to save time, but log every day

"Your numbers seem off to me, but I'm not going to argue that stuff, instead I'm just going to give you advice based on your initial post....

You need to evaluate what food you are putting in your mouth. Processed junk food will leave you hungry. Eating whole, raw, natural foods will keep you fuller longer and for less calories (so you get to eat more!). For instance a few weeks ago I swapped a green smoothie for a chocolate almond milk smoothie. It cut out 50 calories and leaves me fuller longer.

And logging every day is very helpful if you are trying to lose. I find it helps keep me from eating a little extra because I "think" I have a 1-200 calorie wiggle room. Save your meals and enter them in one click to save time, but log every day " - esjones12

I totally agree with all the above! To further tweak this, people do have different things that satisfy them. Some people swear by high-protein, higher-fat foods, others swear by more fibrous, as in lots more veggies, some fruits, and some whole-grain-only products. Others, including myself need a mix of the two. But whichever way you go, the quality of food IS going to make a big difference in how hungry you feel and how soon. One key to keeping hunger on an even keel(that is, not too excessive, given that one is aiming to lose weight) is to keep one's blood sugar on an even keel. Usually that means pairing one's carbs with protein, just about every time one eats. For carbs, one's caloric buck goes a lot further with non-starchy veggies and some fruits, and keep the starchy carbs much less processed as well. It is SO easy to eat 1600 or more calories of refined, junk food and still not feel satisfied, but if one is eating the same amount of good natural foods, one can eat a good bit more in quantity and thus feel much more satisfied. Not to mention feeling better overall!:)

"One key to keeping hunger on an even keel(that is, not too excessive, given that one is aiming to lose weight) is to keep one's blood sugar on an even keel."

This is very true for me. A small amount of bread or pasta will cause cravings and hunger later that day. The better I eat, the easier it is to stay on track.

I agree with all those who say you should try logging every mouthful of your food for a couple of weeks and get some hard, cold, reality into those calorie counts. BUT I am not here to rag on you for that - but instead to give you a little tip that has helped me a lot on my journey. Do a Google search for Julia child lowfat soup recipes. She has a soup base recipewhich is chicken stock with some rice cooked in it - this is then blended and makes a creamy soup base without cream. A cup of this soup is typically less than 100 calories, and I find a cup makes a great hunger-kicking snack. But my usual use is as a first course for my meals. I get full faster and stop eating sooner. There have been studies establishing that a BLENDED soup will cut hunger much more effectively than, say, a stock with vegetables floating in it. No idea why - but the stomach feels full, so you can stop chowing down. Good luck with the rest of your journey. (When the others say LOG, they are not being mean. If you really are eating exactly the same food/portions every day for a week, I would bet your body has gotten so accustomed to that diet that it has adjusted to stop your losing weight.)

Here is one recipe to get you started - almost any vegetable can be turned into a yummy creamy soup. http://www.cookingindex.com/recipes/1570/cream-of-asparagus-soup.htm

I think I know why you're hungry - you're bored to tears with your food?! I know everyone is different, but perhaps eating the exact same dinner for 5 days in a row or the same breakfast, etc is the issue. Of course this is not about weight loss, but you pointed out yourself that your real issue for which you need advice is satiety/hunger. Try mixing it up every day. Will that mean that you have to weigh and log every day because what you eat changes? Yes. But if it helps with the hunger issue and you get a wider variety of food while staying within your cal and macros, isn't that a win?

Fruitylicious03 wrote: »

A few sample menus...

Breakfast - 2 large eggs and normal full fat bacon OR oatmeal with almonds and a banana OR cottage cheese with muesli and a fruit sliced on top.

Lunch - some form of meat, usually with the fat eaten, and mixed vegetables with cheese melted over or/and with a baked potato with butter.

Dinner - usually the same as lunch but a different meat with different veg.

I know you said you didn't want to snack, but if you are only eating 3 meals a day and are eating decent food and staying in your calories. Then trying healthy snacking. My favorites are: cheese and grapes, carrots and hummus, raw granola bars, honey or fruit with greek yogurt, etc. You will have to decrease your meals a little to fit 1-2 snacks of 100-150 calories in.

I eat around 7am, 10:30am, 12:30pm, 3pm and 5:30pm. And if I hit the gym in the evening I usually have a snack after that. I rarely find myself hungry and am losing weight.

Also - spinach and veggies in general are GREAT at keeping you full.

Any way you look at it - if what you are doing isn't working, you are going to have to try something different

ndj1979 wrote: »

Fruitylicious03 wrote: »

Hi all I'm sorry I took so long to reply. I know you all recommend that I should log. Keep in mind that I am, just not everyday because I eat the same things. When I create the recipes I log one day as a sample menu to check my macros and stuff that's how I know how much I eat.

I'm sure my maintenance is 1670 as I have maintained on that number for 6 months before attempting to lose again. I'm 21, 5'2 and small framed.

if you do not log everyday, then how do you know that you are in a surplus, deficit, or at maintenance...???

It always blows my mind when people say "help, I need to lose the last 15 pounds and can't" then upon further review they admit to not logging all the time; then when told to log all the time to determine actual calorie intake they come back and say "no, I do not need to do that because I know how much I am consuming" ...If you know how much you are consuming, then why cant you lose the last 15 pounds???!!

could not agree more. you need to find out what your actual calorie intake needs to be and not just assume because thats what it was 6 months ago. If I ate what my calorie intake was supposed to be 6 months ago, I would start gaining weight.

Fruitylicious03 wrote: »

A few sample menus...

Breakfast - 2 large eggs and normal full fat bacon OR oatmeal with almonds and a banana OR cottage cheese with muesli and a fruit sliced on top.

Lunch - some form of meat, usually with the fat eaten, and mixed vegetables with cheese melted over or/and with a baked potato with butter.

Dinner - usually the same as lunch but a different meat with different veg.

Are you weighing the almonds, banana, and oatmeal? What about the cottage cheese with muesli?

I get what you're saying about your lunch and/or dinner... that you cook the stuff once and divvy it up into 6 portions, but you don't seem to be doing that with breakfast based on the types of things you're eating. 28g of almonds doesn't seem that different from what 48g of almonds looks like... hard to know without weighing and logging. I've eaten some bananas that were 87g on my food scale, others that were 143g. Big difference.

Fruitylicious03 wrote: »

I do weigh out the oatmeal. And I don't weigh the almonds, I kind of buy 300grams of them and just divide the packet into 6. It evens out over the week. I weigh one banana and use that weight for the rest as their all about the same size in length and width. The caloric difference between them can't really be more than 10-20.

300g almonds / 6 = 50g per serving = 293 calories per 50g. Plus ~90-120 calories for a banana. Plus however many calories are in your oatmeal, maybe 120-150 calories depending on flavors etc.

That's 503 calories with low estimates, 563 with the higher estimates.

Not 300 calories like you thought you were eating every day.

Fruitylicious03 wrote: »

willrun4bagels wrote: »

Fruitylicious03 wrote: »

I do weigh out the oatmeal. And I don't weigh the almonds, I kind of buy 300grams of them and just divide the packet into 6. It evens out over the week. I weigh one banana and use that weight for the rest as their all about the same size in length and width. The caloric difference between them can't really be more than 10-20.

300g almonds / 6 = 50g per serving = 293 calories per 50g. Plus ~90-120 calories for a banana. Plus however many calories are in your oatmeal, maybe 120-150 calories depending on flavors etc.

That's 503 calories with low estimates, 563 with the higher estimates.

Not 300 calories like you thought you were eating every day.

It was an example...but thanks.

Well since you have it all figured out... I'll just quote the poster above me:

ndj1979 wrote: »

I still do not understand how you know you are eating 1670 a day when you do not log every day ...

but whatevs...

OP you have received good advice, whether or not you want to follow it is up to you ..

good luck in your journey ...

I would echo some of the other posters who suggest upping your fat and/ or protein and see if that helps keep you satiated.

Fruitylicious03 wrote: »

Fruitylicious03 wrote: »

willrun4bagels wrote: »

Fruitylicious03 wrote: »

I do weigh out the oatmeal. And I don't weigh the almonds, I kind of buy 300grams of them and just divide the packet into 6. It evens out over the week. I weigh one banana and use that weight for the rest as their all about the same size in length and width. The caloric difference between them can't really be more than 10-20.

300g almonds / 6 = 50g per serving = 293 calories per 50g. Plus ~90-120 calories for a banana. Plus however many calories are in your oatmeal, maybe 120-150 calories depending on flavors etc.

That's 503 calories with low estimates, 563 with the higher estimates.

Not 300 calories like you thought you were eating every day.

It was an example...but thanks.

I mean, not to be rude. But the problem is not my calories. The problem is the fact that I'm hungry. Just keep in mind I'm also exercising so any excess is cushioned. I don't know why some people on here get so worked up or "do not understand" how I know how much I'm eating if I don't weigh everyday. Simple. I weigh everything I'm going to eat in the week...once. and divide the total. It's the same as if you would weigh individually, just less work.

I know when I'm overeating on calories. I've been counting for a year and a half. It's ingrained in my head.

I stated in my OP that I KNOW why I'm not losing. Because I eat up to or over maintenance because of hunger. I know I'm not losing because I eat too many calories. That's not what I was asking. I was asking why I'm still hungry even having eaten enough.

There are some posts hidden in here identifying it.

You need to figure out what's satiating to you, and therefore makes you feel fuller longer. For some people it's protein, others it's fats, some it's fiber.

The recommendations to add a salad or RAW leafy vegetable to your meals are smart ones. Volume wise they take up more room in your stomach as you digest them, making you feel fuller. It seems like the majority of the vegetables you're eating, like baked potatoes, are starchy. If a medium baked potato is going to run you around 130 cals before the margarine/butter, that means you could eat 18.5 cups of spinach instead. Obviously, not realistic, but what people are suggesting is that you make tweaks to incorporate low cal, high volume foods.

If you are 100% convinced you do not have a calorie problem, and you feel like you are making choices that are satiating for you, then you're left with a pair of options. Option 1: deal with being hungry. It won't kill you to be hungry, it won't harm you to be hungry. Just deal with it. Option 2, adjust your goal to something less extreme that will allow you to eat more. Either lose the weight slower, or set a higher goal weight. If your calories, food choices, and your tracking are 100% spot on then those options are really all that's left.