One day I'm going to bite my tongue clean off

Yeah I'd never tell them not to bother, it's their own decision but I do find it funny. There are girls at work who are constantly buying dodgy weight loss pills off the internet or going for quick fix diets that will make them magically happy with themselves in a few weeks.

Just find it funny that they sit in a room with someone who lost 70lbs odd in 7 months doing the method they introduced him to, they should take their own advice and stick with MFP!

it's sad that such a simple concept like weight loss has been hijacked and twisted by the fitness/supplement industry with all the *kitten* and smoke and mirrors and fad diets just designed make money off of peoples' ignorance, such a simple concept should be known by everybody, cals in-cals out should be taught in schools imo, would probably save billions on obesity down the road

nosebag1212 wrote: »

it's sad that such a simple concept like weight loss has been hijacked and twisted by the fitness/supplement industry with all the *kitten* and smoke and mirrors and fad diets just designed make money off of peoples' ignorance, such a simple concept should be known by everybody, cals in-cals out should be taught in schools imo, would probably save billions on obesity down the road

It's sad that people think they're being helped by the companies that are out there to make money off of people who are helpless and just don't have an idea where to start. You're right, educating people would be a much better step but of course, they wouldn't make half as much money from that.

Seems like a reasonable response.



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Abstraktimus wrote: »

nosebag1212 wrote: »

it's sad that such a simple concept like weight loss has been hijacked and twisted by the fitness/supplement industry with all the *kitten* and smoke and mirrors and fad diets just designed make money off of peoples' ignorance, such a simple concept should be known by everybody, cals in-cals out should be taught in schools imo, would probably save billions on obesity down the road

It's sad that people think they're being helped by the companies that are out there to make money off of people who are helpless and just don't have an idea where to start. You're right, educating people would be a much better step but of course, they wouldn't make half as much money from that.

What is really sad about it is a lot of those people honestly believe that a gimmick is the only answer. I had a few people get mad at me for not having a product name or some sort of tip or trick as an answer to the question 'How did you lose weight?' Seriously, mad. One of my relatives, who has spent a substantial portion of her income on those sorts of things for decades now, was honestly convinced that I just didn't want to tell her the 'real' answer.

I know someone who has a master's in wellness who still thinks he can exercise off the extra weight. I just nod and smile- well maybe when you were 25! But now that you're 50, nooooooo-- not unless you change the way you eat!! People just do not want to change how they eat, period. And they are soooooo impatient with weight loss.

lol I got flagged, guess some people are easily offended.

Here is an interesting insight into fad diets.

Diet books; too many frankly. Most follow a fairly standard organization (the first chapter always explaining that YOUR FAT IS NOT YOUR FAULT) and, with very very few exceptions, most will tell you that ‘calorie restricted diets don’t work for weight loss’ and that whatever magic they are selling is the key to quick, easy (and of course permanent) weight loss.

Whether it’s insulin, dietary fat, the protein:carbohydrate or insulin:glucagon ratio, partitioning or whatever other bs, they will make it sound like caloric intake is not the key aspect in whether or not someone gains weight.

In almost all cases, the idea that food intake must be restricted in any fashion is dismissed; if it is mentioned it is generally as a short aside late in the book that nobody pays any attention to.

This is purely a psychological ploy; it sucks to have to consciously restrict food intake and this causes mental stress. Simply knowing that you can’t eat what you want when you want it blows; I hate it as much as the next person. Many people will feel hungrier simply because they know that they can’t eat what they want when they want it.

Yet the fundamental fact is that the body will NOT have any need to tap into stored body fat unless the individual is burning more calories than they are taking in. Of course this means that either energy expenditure has to go up, caloric intake has to go down, or both have to occur.

So how can these books make this claim? It’s simple: they all hide basic caloric restriction in whatever they happen to be proposing. Basically, this is Lyle’s Rule #1 of Diet books:

All diet books tell you that you won’t have to restrict calories, and then trick you into doing it anyway.

All of the rules, the food combining, the elimination of carbs, the elimination of fat, don’t eat XXX at all (where XXX is something that contributes a lot of calories to the diet), don’t eat YYY after 6pm (where YYY is something people tend to overeat in the evenings), etc. are all just ways of tricking people into eating less without having to think about it.

Source: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/all-diets-work-the-importance-of-calories.html/

dramaqueen45 wrote: »

I know someone who has a master's in wellness who still thinks he can exercise off the extra weight. I just nod and smile- well maybe when you were 25! But now that you're 50, nooooooo-- not unless you change the way you eat!! People just do not want to change how they eat, period. And they are soooooo impatient with weight loss.

There's really no reason why a person can't exercise off the extra weight, even at fifty. What usually happens is that people feel justified in eating more when they exercise more. But if a person were to exercise more without changing their diet, they would lose weight. Age has nothing to do with that, other than the 50 year old body is more prone to injury and doesn't recover as quickly.

nosebag1212 wrote: »

it's sad that such a simple concept like weight loss has been hijacked and twisted by the fitness/supplement industry with all the *kitten* and smoke and mirrors and fad diets just designed make money off of peoples' ignorance, such a simple concept should be known by everybody, cals in-cals out should be taught in schools imo, would probably save billions on obesity down the road

Well said.