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  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    I can't say I've ever taken it that extreme lol. I get the wobbly noodly legs after working them, but I'm not going to kill them so hard that I can't use the can without assistance. Things would be reeeeal awkward at work, kwim. Plus I have to climb stairs to get into the bldg where I work anyway.
  • feralX
    feralX Posts: 334 Member
    kyta32 wrote: »
    kyta32 wrote: »
    Good for you. I vaguely remember the days I would get this sore. It will get easier, promise ;)

    I think you're just not going hard enough. If you keep progressing it doesn't really get easier. ;)

    Um...I've been doing this for decades...And even though I do strength training until my body will not do any more reps, the most sore I've ever been was after my first weight training session. The body adjusts, and DOMS is not as severe after a while. I still feel it, but it's more achey than crippling (which is good, because I have a life).

    I'm still working out as hard as I can. The workouts don't get easier, but everything else does, the DOMs, the motivation, the strength, the speed, the explosion, the flexibility, the confidence, you name it, doing the workouts makes things easier, at least for me. I'm sorry that you aren't experiencing any gains. Keep trying ;)

    You don't have much DOMS because you're strength training. Causes much less muscle damage than volume training. If you go volume and train to or past failure, you will always have some DOMS. Yes you adapt, but it's still there to some degree.
  • uconnwinsnc1
    uconnwinsnc1 Posts: 902 Member
    kyta32 wrote: »
    kyta32 wrote: »
    Good for you. I vaguely remember the days I would get this sore. It will get easier, promise ;)

    I think you're just not going hard enough. If you keep progressing it doesn't really get easier. ;)

    Um...I've been doing this for decades...And even though I do strength training until my body will not do any more reps, the most sore I've ever been was after my first weight training session. The body adjusts, and DOMS is not as severe after a while. I still feel it, but it's more achey than crippling (which is good, because I have a life).

    I'm still working out as hard as I can. The workouts don't get easier, but everything else does, the DOMs, the motivation, the strength, the speed, the explosion, the flexibility, the confidence, you name it, doing the workouts makes things easier, at least for me. I'm sorry that you aren't experiencing any gains. Keep trying ;)

    The routine of training gets easier, the actual training does not. Sure DOMS goes away but the struggle with more and more weight continues.

    You think you're 70 year old Steve Rogers being able to out gain a 23 year old? :p
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    ...you've gotten a good leg workout...and you can't sit down on the toilet...because your butt hurts...

    And sometimes you even need to ask someone to help you get up from it... :#

    My calves have been hurting from DOMS since sunday...
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Cherimoose wrote: »
    That tells me i overdid it.

    lolz. You funny.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    kyta32 wrote: »
    Good for you. I vaguely remember the days I would get this sore. It will get easier, promise ;)

    I think you're just not going hard enough. If you keep progressing it doesn't really get easier. ;)

    I'm still a beginner. I JUST started doing regular push ups I had to work up to them from a wall all the way down. And I can still just barely do ten in a set. So I think any improvement will make me immobile right now.

    I usually did 45 squats. Yesterday I decided, well I'll do 60. And just add 10lb just in case....and add some 60 lunges too. Meeeeh....!

    I remember you from the other thread. Glad you decided to give some weight training a go! :)

    Yes. It is good to see.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    kyta32 wrote: »
    kyta32 wrote: »
    Good for you. I vaguely remember the days I would get this sore. It will get easier, promise ;)

    I think you're just not going hard enough. If you keep progressing it doesn't really get easier. ;)

    Um...I've been doing this for decades...And even though I do strength training until my body will not do any more reps, the most sore I've ever been was after my first weight training session. The body adjusts, and DOMS is not as severe after a while. I still feel it, but it's more achey than crippling (which is good, because I have a life).

    I'm still working out as hard as I can. The workouts don't get easier, but everything else does, the DOMs, the motivation, the strength, the speed, the explosion, the flexibility, the confidence, you name it, doing the workouts makes things easier, at least for me. I'm sorry that you aren't experiencing any gains. Keep trying ;)

    The routine of training gets easier, the actual training does not. Sure DOMS goes away but the struggle with more and more weight continues.

    You think you're 70 year old Steve Rogers being able to out gain a 23 year old? :p
    It looks like Kiyy has a new screenname.

    Watch out, she'll start saying she's a squat expert, and out squats you, so shut up. LOL. great fun.
  • Does it get easier to lift weights that was once heavy as you progress? For example if you are now able to lift 20kg, does lifting 10kg feel easier?
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    Does it get easier to lift weights that was once heavy as you progress? For example if you are now able to lift 20kg, does lifting 10kg feel easier?

    YES. Progressive overload when weight gets easy increase it.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Does it get easier to lift weights that was once heavy as you progress? For example if you are now able to lift 20kg, does lifting 10kg feel easier?
    Absolutely.

    You'll find that as strength increases, a weight you could do for 3 reps historically becomes something you could do 5, 10, 15, 20 times.

    Back in June I had challenges going over 70kg for a single squat due to a knee injury and bad form.

    I'll do 20-30 reps with 70kg as part of my warm up now.
  • fat2strongbeth
    fat2strongbeth Posts: 735 Member
    I love 2nd day sore. Great reminder of my workout!
  • branflakes1980
    branflakes1980 Posts: 2,516 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    ...you've gotten a good leg workout...and you can't sit down on the toilet...because your butt hurts...

    And sometimes you even need to ask someone to help you get up from it... :#

    My calves have been hurting from DOMS since sunday...

    Mine have been hurting since Monday! I feel your pain!

  • Leg day must be done with caution when you've got to use the clutch to drive your car home... and your wife can't drive stick. Jelly legs can be... dangerous.
  • dbmata wrote: »
    ...you've gotten a good leg workout...and you can't sit down on the toilet...because your butt hurts...

    And sometimes you even need to ask someone to help you get up from it... :#

    My calves have been hurting from DOMS since sunday...

    Mine have been hurting since Monday! I feel your pain!

    I also feel the pain...still from Monday. Even though my reps/weights probably aren't nearly as hard as you guys. I think I'd be totally immobile if I have to lift 70kg. I can't even lift 20. I'd break something. Lol
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    ...you've gotten a good leg workout...and you can't sit down on the toilet...because your butt hurts...

    And sometimes you even need to ask someone to help you get up from it... :#

    My calves have been hurting from DOMS since sunday...

    Mine have been hurting since Monday! I feel your pain!

    I also feel the pain...still from Monday. Even though my reps/weights probably aren't nearly as hard as you guys. I think I'd be totally immobile if I have to lift 70kg. I can't even lift 20. I'd break something. Lol

    Naw, you work up to it. All that matters is what is heavy to you. Not to me.

    There's some guys at my gym that do their opening sets on the bench press at 140kg, and go up from there. I can't imagine that kind of weight. I'll work up to it though. ;)
  • I wonder how many bulk and cut cycles I'd have to do before I start actually looking fit. :/ might not be that much though. I'm only 5'2.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Depends on your goals. I'm not sure the "popular" belief is that bulk/cut cycles are important. I know a few natty BB's that don't bulk/cut, but basically spend their year training hard, and living at about 100-300 calories above maintenance, then shave off 1 or 2% to contest weight during the month prior to a contest. That would be their peak cycle, as opposed to a cut. (Well, technically it's a cut, but we're not talking a continual cycle of months of each.)
  • 47Jacqueline
    47Jacqueline Posts: 6,993 Member
    If I'm sore right after, but feel great the next day. Watch out for DOM that says you've done too much
  • dbmata wrote: »
    Depends on your goals. I'm not sure the "popular" belief is that bulk/cut cycles are important. I know a few natty BB's that don't bulk/cut, but basically spend their year training hard, and living at about 100-300 calories above maintenance, then shave off 1 or 2% to contest weight during the month prior to a contest. That would be their peak cycle, as opposed to a cut. (Well, technically it's a cut, but we're not talking a continual cycle of months of each.)

    Well my goal would be to go from skinnyfat to this... (as an example, I'm aware it won't be exactly the same)7w1ydlmv3t77.jpg

    I don't have any muscle definition. I lost weight. But my body didn't change. I'm just a smaller version of my fat self. I want my body to change.

    Is there a reason why bulk and cut aren't done continously?
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  • Fruitylicious03
    Fruitylicious03 Posts: 301
    edited December 2014
    You should also know, probably the last time I did any "muscle building" was when I was a little kid still growing.

    My mom never allowed me to do sport at school because she didn't want to take me to the sessions. I didn't do sport at home either because apparently according to her too much movement would make me "keel over from my asthma."

    She died 3 years ago and it's only then that I started doing some form of exercise. (Cardio mostly).

    So I have well, almost no muscle in my opinion. I'm currently at 134lb and 27% bodyfat.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Some people do bulk and cut cycles continuously. It might not be the best for your health. There's not any research I've read on it, but it does look like it might be rough on your system.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Man- I haven't been that sore in many many moons.
    ...
    I miss being sore.
    Wait a decade, then everything will.
    LOL- I'm only 30 (only/already?!?!?!!?) and it takes me 2 sets of warm ups in the rack before I'm no longer in pain- 3-4 till I'm comfortable and feeling stable.

    If I don't work out for a week- I never feel good about it- I always just feel crunchy and stiff- I'm pretty sure by the time I'm 65- I'm going to be so arthritic I won't want to do anything but lay in bed and breath with an IV bag of beer to my arm.
  • kyta32
    kyta32 Posts: 670 Member
    kyta32 wrote: »
    kyta32 wrote: »
    Good for you. I vaguely remember the days I would get this sore. It will get easier, promise ;)

    I think you're just not going hard enough. If you keep progressing it doesn't really get easier. ;)

    Um...I've been doing this for decades...And even though I do strength training until my body will not do any more reps, the most sore I've ever been was after my first weight training session. The body adjusts,

    The workouts don't get easier, but everything else does, I'm sorry that you aren't experiencing any gains. Keep trying ;)[/b]

    The routine of training gets easier, the actual training does not. Sure DOMS goes away but the struggle with more and more weight continues.

    You think you're 70 year old Steve Rogers being able to out gain a 23 year old? :p

    As far as strength and muscle definition go, my gains are not that impressive to anyone but me, I know. I'm no body builder, I'm not out-gaining anyone. What I'm saying is that if someone is working out regularly and nothing is improving (nothing gets easier) then they are doing something wrong (and perhaps they should speak to a Dr./trainer). The hardest time is the first time. The next hardest time is every time we start up again after a break. Even when you work out as hard as your body allows you too, adaptation happens, and the motivation from all the improvement in one's life (more energy, better mood, better focus, confidence, keeping up with the kids, finding a rhythm and balance to it all) helps to get us back in the gym even as we are aching for more.

    The hardest part is beating out the self-doubt, and negative self-talk, carving out the time and energy, and getting ourselves on the road to health. We don't win when we lift the goal weight, or see our triceps dance, or enter our reps into MFP. We win when we show up. Everything else, the gains, the confidence, the changes in appearance, even the DOMS is the reward. So good for fruitylicious03 for showing up (and good for the rest of us as well). I say it will get easier. I mean the rewards are coming. Sorry if I was snarky, and high fives to all ;)
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