Weight Loss Newbie - Needs to figure out calories

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Hello guys & gals!

I'm a weight loss newbie, this is the first time -ever- when I attempt to shed a few pounds. So I'm brand new to all this and there are lots of things that I need to understand in order to be as successful as I can. Pardon me if some of these questions may seem silly, but truly I don't understand how this whole thing works yet.

- My current daily calorie intake goal is 1200. But what happens if exceed my limit? Let say if one day I eat 1800 calories can I make up for it by only eating 600 calories the next day? Does that work?

- What about working out? If I do a 600 calorie workout does it mean that on my day of working out I can eat up to 1800 calories? Does it have to be same day? Or does it average out, if I work out regularly every week?


Sorry as I type these, I realize how silly they must sound. But as a total newbie, this really is brand new information.


Thanks a bunch!
Looking forward to hearing from you!

- Paulette

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  • eslcity
    eslcity Posts: 323 Member
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    NO.....If you over eat one day doesn't mean you have you under eat the next...
    Yes... If you over eat one day you can use exercise to balance it out....

  • CloudyMao
    CloudyMao Posts: 258 Member
    edited December 2014
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    First I would suggest you calculate your TDEE - total daily energy expenditure, and then subtract 500-1000(max) from this, you will probably find that is higher than 1200kcal.

    Calories do in fact average out, but it is not a good idea to only eat 600 for a day to compensate for over eating, it is more sustainable to make small adjustments for example if you over ate one day by 700kcal, then burning an extra 100kcal for 7 days. Bearing this in mind however, If you exceed your limit you will still likely be at a calorie deficit - in which case accept it & forget about it, start the next day as you mean to finish, you will have days where you 'over eat' and this is perfectly normal. Try not to punish yourself for eating by restricting yourself afterwards.

    If you like I could work out your approximate TDEE or you can use an online calculator such as http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/

    Need any clarification on that please let me know & others will be along with great advice I'm sure, good luck.

    BTW your calorie requirements for your weight loss will depend on your current stats, and your final goal. A solid weight loss plan will consider;
    * Your final goal
    * An approximate deadline
    * Meal planning
    * An understanding of adjustments you may need to make
    * Accepting the possibility of mistakes & having an allowance for this in your overall plan (time frame)
    * A plan for how to return to eating maintenance.


    Please try to bear in mind that higher rates of weight loss (2lbs per week) do not suit everyone & usually for those who are relatively close to their goals (10-30lbs to lose) then 0.5lbs-1lbs loss per week is more viable. 1200kcal is the average amount of calories needed by a body to survive while being completely sedentary (think comatose) and does not account for the energy you use to walk, talk, think, work & workout.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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    First question is, did you set up MFP correctly? Not everyone should choose "lose 2 pounds per week" if that is what you chose. Depending on how much you need to lose, you might be better off choosing a different setting.

    MFP does not include exercise in its calculations for what you need to eat. When you do exercise you earn more calories for fuel. MFP adds that on to your daily goal when you log it. Be aware, many people say that the amount MFP gives you for exercise is inflated, so some people only eat half or 3/4 of those extra calories.

    You can average your numbers out over the week. You can eat more one day and less the next, as long as it doesn't become a downfall for you, enabling binges or deprivation. This can be a slippery slope for some people.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
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    HI Paulette. There's a lot to cover here, so I'm going to try and hit most of your questions. If you haven't yet, be sure to check out the posts that are stuck to the top of the boards (especially those on top of the Getting Started board) since those have a lot of great information.
    - My current daily calorie intake goal is 1200. But what happens if exceed my limit? Let say if one day I eat 1800 calories can I make up for it by only eating 600 calories the next day? Does that work?

    I'm going to toss some terms and ideas out here and hope that I'm being clear. Go ahead and ask questions here if you're not understanding something and hopefully someone can give you a better explanation.

    There's something called your TDEE, your Total Daily Energy Expenditure. This is how many calories your body uses throughout the day, including doing things that it needs to do just to keep you alive. Eating anything below this number should allow you to lose weight, just maybe not at the same rate that you expected. This number is different for everyone, but you can google an online calculator to get a rough estimate of yours if you're curious.

    So, to lose 1 pound per week you need to eat 500 calories below your current TDEE every day. To lose 2 pounds per week you'd want to eat 1000 calories fewer than your TDEE. MFP has done all of this math for you when it set your goal to 1200 calories, but it's important to know because of this: if your TDEE is, say, 1700 calories, then eating 600 calories above 1200 would cause you to gain a tiny amount of weight. If your TDEE is 2200 calories then eating 600 calories above 1200 would still allow you to lose weight, just at a slower pace than your current goal.

    Does that make sense?

    You can make up for the overage the next day (although I'm careful about not setting up an overeating/punishment cycle, myself) or you can average it out over the week or you can ignore it and just lose a little less weight that week. It's really up to you how you want to handle your calories.

    - What about working out? If I do a 600 calorie workout does it mean that on my day of working out I can eat up to 1800 calories? Does it have to be same day? Or does it average out, if I work out regularly every week?

    MFP is set up to give you a calorie goal without taking your workouts into account. It takes all of your information and sets up a calorie goal for you, but it basically doesn't trust you to work out until you actually log it. It increases your calories for the day after you log exercise because you've earned them, and because it's important to eat to fuel your lifestyle if you're more active.

    Again, it doesn't have to be the same day. You can eat them the next day, the day before, or average them out over the week.

    I'm going to add two caveats here. One, a lot of people look up their TDEE as I explained above and set a calorie goal based on that. If you choose to do that and you include your exercise in that calculation then you don't earn any extra calories after exercise because they're already built in.

    And two, some gym machines tend to overestimate calories burned during certain activities and MFP may do the same. MFP's estimates were always pretty good for me, but if you see your loss slow down or aren't losing anymore then it might be something to double-check.
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    Now for some of those useful links I mentioned:

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1235566/so-youre-new-here

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/819055/setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
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    And I see that I'm the slowest typist on the boards again! :drinker:
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    And I see that I'm the slowest typist on the boards again! :drinker:

    You need to pick it up, really :)
  • CloudyMao
    CloudyMao Posts: 258 Member
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    And I see that I'm the slowest typist on the boards again! :drinker:

    You get a better cup of tea if you let it steep ;)
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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    And I see that I'm the slowest typist on the boards again! :drinker:

    To be fair, you typed more, so it wasn't a fair comparison. :)

  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
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    My current daily calorie intake goal is 1200. But what happens if exceed my limit? Let say if one day I eat 1800 calories can I make up for it by only eating 600 calories the next day? Does that work?
    Some people average calories over a week, most people go day by day.
    Since you only have 20 lb to lose, it's not reasonable to expect to lose more than 0.5 lb per week. If you've set your MFP goal too aggressively, go back & change it. I'm betting you'll end up with way more than 1200 cal/day. That will make it easier to stay on target.

    And unless you're very short, so that less than 120 lb is a healthy weight for you, don't go under 1200 cal/day. (Or if your doctor says it's OK, & is monitoring you.) So no, don't overeat one day & starve yourself the next. Just resolve to do better the next day. Shake it off & move on.
    What about working out? If I do a 600 calorie workout does it mean that on my day of working out I can eat up to 1800 calories? Does it have to be same day? Or does it average out, if I work out regularly every week?
    MFP will tell you that you can eat back your exercise calories.
    Don't do it.
    First off, most people underestimate what they eat. Secondly, most computers overestimate calories burned.
    My doctor & dietician told me to ignore exercise calories, just eat at my net calorie goal. (That's 10x my healthy goal weight.) It's been working fine for me. Some days I'll eat back 1/3 to 1/2, but it's not a daily thing. As I've hit plateaus, I've dropped 50-100 cal until my weight loss restarted.

    I did a blog post compiling useful information, including sexypants (already linked above), and a post about goal setting (weight, calories, macros).

    Definitely go read sexypants.

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  • skinnypaulette
    skinnypaulette Posts: 2 Member
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    Wow! Thanks everyone! I did not expect such a high level of response, I'm very grateful of everyone's helpfulness. I will read each and every post in detail tomorrow morning and come back if I have any questions. But I'm very humbled by the level of answers and support.

    Thank you!
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    Hello guys & gals!

    I'm a weight loss newbie, this is the first time -ever- when I attempt to shed a few pounds. So I'm brand new to all this and there are lots of things that I need to understand in order to be as successful as I can. Pardon me if some of these questions may seem silly, but truly I don't understand how this whole thing works yet.

    - My current daily calorie intake goal is 1200. But what happens if exceed my limit? Let say if one day I eat 1800 calories can I make up for it by only eating 600 calories the next day? Does that work?

    - What about working out? If I do a 600 calorie workout does it mean that on my day of working out I can eat up to 1800 calories? Does it have to be same day? Or does it average out, if I work out regularly every week?


    Sorry as I type these, I realize how silly they must sound. But as a total newbie, this really is brand new information.


    Thanks a bunch!
    Looking forward to hearing from you!

    - Paulette

    Only a few pounds to lose.

    Did you select 2 lbs weekly?

    Which is unreasonable if by few you mean 10 or less.

    Reasonable would be 250 deficit or 1/2 lb weekly. You gained it slow, wisely choose to lose it slowly.

    And the resulting eating goal is on non-workout days, because that's how MFP works.
    When you workout you burn more, take 250 off the totaly daily burn again - you eat more obviously.

    But be honest with exercise time and activity.
  • TimothyFish
    TimothyFish Posts: 4,925 Member
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    heybales wrote: »
    Hello guys & gals!

    I'm a weight loss newbie, this is the first time -ever- when I attempt to shed a few pounds. So I'm brand new to all this and there are lots of things that I need to understand in order to be as successful as I can. Pardon me if some of these questions may seem silly, but truly I don't understand how this whole thing works yet.

    - My current daily calorie intake goal is 1200. But what happens if exceed my limit? Let say if one day I eat 1800 calories can I make up for it by only eating 600 calories the next day? Does that work?

    - What about working out? If I do a 600 calorie workout does it mean that on my day of working out I can eat up to 1800 calories? Does it have to be same day? Or does it average out, if I work out regularly every week?


    Sorry as I type these, I realize how silly they must sound. But as a total newbie, this really is brand new information.


    Thanks a bunch!
    Looking forward to hearing from you!

    - Paulette

    Only a few pounds to lose.

    Did you select 2 lbs weekly?

    Which is unreasonable if by few you mean 10 or less.

    Reasonable would be 250 deficit or 1/2 lb weekly. You gained it slow, wisely choose to lose it slowly.

    And the resulting eating goal is on non-workout days, because that's how MFP works.
    When you workout you burn more, take 250 off the totaly daily burn again - you eat more obviously.

    But be honest with exercise time and activity.

    It is not unreasonable, it is just harder to achieve without dropping below the recommended minimum calories. Achieving it usually requires additional exercise, unless the person is tall.
  • nosebag1212
    nosebag1212 Posts: 621 Member
    edited December 2014
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    heybales wrote: »
    Hello guys & gals!

    I'm a weight loss newbie, this is the first time -ever- when I attempt to shed a few pounds. So I'm brand new to all this and there are lots of things that I need to understand in order to be as successful as I can. Pardon me if some of these questions may seem silly, but truly I don't understand how this whole thing works yet.

    - My current daily calorie intake goal is 1200. But what happens if exceed my limit? Let say if one day I eat 1800 calories can I make up for it by only eating 600 calories the next day? Does that work?

    - What about working out? If I do a 600 calorie workout does it mean that on my day of working out I can eat up to 1800 calories? Does it have to be same day? Or does it average out, if I work out regularly every week?


    Sorry as I type these, I realize how silly they must sound. But as a total newbie, this really is brand new information.


    Thanks a bunch!
    Looking forward to hearing from you!

    - Paulette

    Only a few pounds to lose.

    Did you select 2 lbs weekly?

    Which is unreasonable if by few you mean 10 or less.

    Reasonable would be 250 deficit or 1/2 lb weekly. You gained it slow, wisely choose to lose it slowly.

    And the resulting eating goal is on non-workout days, because that's how MFP works.
    When you workout you burn more, take 250 off the totaly daily burn again - you eat more obviously.

    But be honest with exercise time and activity.

    It is not unreasonable, it is just harder to achieve without dropping below the recommended minimum calories. Achieving it usually requires additional exercise, unless the person is tall.

    it can be done if you up your protein, there's a copypasta that keeps getting posted here that I just don't agree with at all, basically says to lose the last 20 lbs you should only do a 250 deficit, which is ridiculous because it's slow as hell 0.5 lbs a week would take you 40 weeks! and 20 lbs of fat is still quite a lot, you can absolutely do a 750-1000 deficit with those calories as long as you intake adequate protein and lift weights, not everybody wants to spend a year dieting
  • nosebag1212
    nosebag1212 Posts: 621 Member
    edited December 2014
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    dbl post
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,150 Member
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    Just eat at a deficit and you'll lose. Really, with only a couple of pounds to lose, you should set your goal at a half a pound a week.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    heybales wrote: »
    Hello guys & gals!

    I'm a weight loss newbie, this is the first time -ever- when I attempt to shed a few pounds. So I'm brand new to all this and there are lots of things that I need to understand in order to be as successful as I can. Pardon me if some of these questions may seem silly, but truly I don't understand how this whole thing works yet.

    - My current daily calorie intake goal is 1200. But what happens if exceed my limit? Let say if one day I eat 1800 calories can I make up for it by only eating 600 calories the next day? Does that work?

    - What about working out? If I do a 600 calorie workout does it mean that on my day of working out I can eat up to 1800 calories? Does it have to be same day? Or does it average out, if I work out regularly every week?


    Sorry as I type these, I realize how silly they must sound. But as a total newbie, this really is brand new information.


    Thanks a bunch!
    Looking forward to hearing from you!

    - Paulette

    Only a few pounds to lose.

    Did you select 2 lbs weekly?

    Which is unreasonable if by few you mean 10 or less.

    Reasonable would be 250 deficit or 1/2 lb weekly. You gained it slow, wisely choose to lose it slowly.

    And the resulting eating goal is on non-workout days, because that's how MFP works.
    When you workout you burn more, take 250 off the totaly daily burn again - you eat more obviously.

    But be honest with exercise time and activity.

    It is not unreasonable, it is just harder to achieve without dropping below the recommended minimum calories. Achieving it usually requires additional exercise, unless the person is tall.

    If there is 4-5 lbs yes, meaning it takes 2 weeks of extreme watchfulness to keep that deficit, ya, not bad, probably can be done.

    But see how many with only 10 lbs to lose manage to lose the fight trying to go too big, and are stuck with 4-5 to go for a long time. Then they eat even less and exercise even more and obtain nothing for weight loss.
    It's really interesting how fast the body gets stressed out the less fat you have to lose, and how much worse that big deficit is.