The good news about willpower

MakePeasNotWar
MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,329 Member
edited November 9 in Motivation and Support
As I have mentioned in a few threads in this forum, I have been doing some research into the psychology of behaviour, motivation, and change.

One of the most encouraging things I have read is that willpower is not absolute; it can be trained, much like a muscle.

On the positive side, this means that the more you successfully practice willpower, the easier it becomes. That's why sometimes you can look at someone who has been successfully improving their fitness for a long time and think "I could never be like that; I just don't have the willpower." You have it, it's just underdeveloped right now. Time, practice and challenge will strengthen your willpower. Start small and progress. You wouldn't go into a gym for the first time and try to lift the heaviest weights in the room; you work up to it.

On the flip side is that, just like a muscle, our willpower can get fatigued from constant use. Experiments where people were made to do things that required willpower, like resist a delicious food, found that afterward, their performance on other willpower related tasks was lower than the control group who did not have to face the first willpower challenge. Practically, this means the more times you have to use willpower in a day, the less you have left in reserve. I think anyone who has come home from a long stressful day at work and dived into a pint of Haagen Dazs can relate to this phenomenon.


I think some of the ways this information can be applied to weight loss or fitness are:

1. Start small with new habits. If you want to exercise, pick a small, reasonable goal, and when that becomes easy, increase it. If you are trying to change your eating habits, again, start with something easy, build your "willpower muscle", and then move on to the next challenge.

2. Don't resist temptation, avoid it. Why deplete your willpower by forcing yourself to always have to make a conscious choice to do the things you need to do to get to your goal? If there are no chips in the cupboard, you can't eat chips (unless you go to the store, but store chips are still easier to resist than right-in-front-of-your-face chips). If you don't go home to change between work and the gym, you can't sit on the couch and turn on the TV instead.

3. Go easy on yourself, especially at first. If you just joined a gym for the first time, would you look at the biggest guy in there and say to yourself "why can't I just lift what he lifts? There must be something wrong with me" There is nothing wrong with you. If you don't train your willpower, it will be weaker. It doesn't have to stay that way.


I know some people reading this will think to themselves "that's a bunch of BS; just get up and do it, already". The thing is, these are the "big guys at the gym"; the ones who have been practicing willpower their whole lives (or at least for some time)and have developed it to a point where it's easy to make the right choices in the face of temptation. Are the rest us weak? Well, technically yes, right now we are; but the point is that by accepting our starting point and building from where we are, we can become stronger.

To some, this may sound like an excuse. I say it's only an excuse if it stops you from even trying. If you can't lift the big weights because you aren't strong enough, use the small ones. Accept yourself and start where you are.

PS, in case you want to read more about this, I recommend starting with "The Power of Habit" by Charles Duhigg, and "Making Habits, Breaking Habits" by Jeremy Dean.

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  • Awesome post. Thanks for sharing
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,329 Member
    Awesome post. Thanks for sharing

    thanks. I don't know how many people will actually read a giant post like that, but I just figured I might as well share what I was learning in my own journey.

    I used to have pretty strong willpower, but since I got sick and stopped training I have found that motivation and self control don't come so easily anymore. I've been trying to find any tips and strategies I can to help make things a bit easier. I'm actually amazed at how much research is out there. More posts to come, for sure.
  • sammygrl73
    sammygrl73 Posts: 1 Member
    i did, good info. sorry for the lack of caps. broke my right arm so i'm pecking with my left.
  • jrose1982
    jrose1982 Posts: 366 Member
    edited December 2014
    our willpower can get fatigued from constant use

    I did not know that. That's why the holidays are so f-ing hard! The rest of the year we have sweets maybe once a week, and in small enough quantities that I only have to resist once or twice before they are gone. I can usually resist quite well.

    During the holidays we have sweets every f-ing day, plus leftovers from the day before.

    Thanks for sharing!

    PS: Very well written, too.
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,329 Member
    jrose1982 wrote: »
    our willpower can get fatigued from constant use

    I did not know that. That's why the holidays are so f-ing hard! The rest of the year we have sweets maybe once a week, and in small enough quantities that I only have to resist once or twice before they are gone. I can usually resist quite well.

    During the holidays we have sweets every f-ing day, plus leftovers from the day before.

    Thanks for sharing!

    Not to mention the willpower involved in budgeting our holiday shopping, spending already overburdened time on preparations, and not murdering our relatives :p
  • jrose1982
    jrose1982 Posts: 366 Member
    jrose1982 wrote: »
    our willpower can get fatigued from constant use

    I did not know that. That's why the holidays are so f-ing hard! The rest of the year we have sweets maybe once a week, and in small enough quantities that I only have to resist once or twice before they are gone. I can usually resist quite well.

    During the holidays we have sweets every f-ing day, plus leftovers from the day before.

    Thanks for sharing!

    Not to mention the willpower involved in budgeting our holiday shopping, spending already overburdened time on preparations, and not murdering our relatives :p

    Indeed. I don't really think about the willpower involved in those tasks because they're relatively easy for me. But you're right, it's all the same muscle, and they certainly add to the fatigue if in small ways. You can overload a muscle even with small movements if you do enough of them (i.e. tennis elbow).
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    edited December 2014
    thumbs-up!
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    The Power of Habit comes into play here. Good post.
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,329 Member
    herrspoons wrote: »
    Willpower or ego depletion is a contentious issue. More recent studies have shown that glucose replenishment reinforces willpower and that the belief that willpower is finite in itself can lead to depletion, whereas rejecting that view does not.

    In any event, it is highly unlikely ego depletion would occur at a sufficient rate throughout the day to make it an issue for most people, and as such it should not be seen as an excuse, as this can in itself provide a negative reinforcement mechanism.


    Thanks for bringing these up. I haven't read the studies you referenced, only a brief description/ conclusions, but do you think the results of the beliefs study would be dramatic enough to counteract the effect of actually planning ahead and structuring to prevent/mitigate the depletion in the first place? Have any studies been done that you know of that somehow tested this?

    The APA article, "What You Need to Know about Willpower: The Psychological Science of Self-Control" , stated the following:

    "So is willpower a limited resource? Proponents of this idea point to a large and robust body of supporting evidence that has accumulated over the last decade. They argue that factors such as mood and belief may only buffer the effects
    of willpower depletion in its earliest stages.
    Still, further research is needed to explore how beliefs, moods and attitudes might affect one’s ability to resist temptation."

    I might be misinterpreting, but to me the bolded statement would imply that reducing the causes of depletion (including low glucose, as you mentioned above) would be a larger factor, over time, in self regulation than attitude about the existence of ego depletion.

    What are your thoughts?

    Also, if you know of any more relevant/recent studies, I'd love a heads up :) I'm just starting out on this, so any guidance is appreciated. I am purely a layman (probably obvious), so please excuse my lack of concise language and feel free to correct me if I am using terms or concepts incorrectly; I won't be offended.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    Very good post.

    If the readers wanting to start a diet would read this first they would know to start out with .5 pound weekly loss setting to improve their chances of success and keeping it off for life.

    Making hard decisions only ONCE helps me. That cuts out the need for willpower and ego depletion if there is such a thing and I see a case could be made there is. People often say "Well he finally wore me down."
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,329 Member
    The Power of Habit comes into play here. Good post.

    Isn't that a great book? The story of the subject with memory loss was particularly fascinating to me.
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,329 Member
    herrspoons wrote: »
    The key part of the APA article is that there is a need for further investigation into the factors involved in ego depletion.

    For example, is there a physiological component? The study showing that glucose replenishment seems to reset or reinforce willpower suggests that there is. If so, what is this mechanism? Also, what are the psychosomatic factors? Are expected behaviours self fulfilling?

    Habits can be formed by referential feedback loops, both internal and external, whether these habits are 'good' or 'bad'. I'm very wary of the concept of ego depletion, as it may only apply to the nascent stage of habit formation, where the behavioural loop isn't fixed, and may therefore be less useful when the habit is formed.

    My main concern is that by stating that willpower can be depleted, this in itself leads to ego depletion (the self fulfilling condition mentioned above) and, bluntly, the majority of people are more likely to use this as a reason for failure than the condition would actually warrant.

    I think I understand what you are saying. Are you referring to the case where someone might use the concept to say, in effect, "I've been using my willpower all day, I don't have enough left to (insert behaviour here)"? Instead of being used proactively to try to manage the potential depletion throughout the day (like by managing sleep and blood glucose, or pre-planning to reduce the number of decisions required), it is used as an excuse for why further effort is impossible. I guess it's like people who say "I would love to do x, but I have so much going on right now", and never actually even try to find the time. Is that (sort of) what you mean?

    I always wonder why one person will see a weakness or problem as something to be solved or worked around, and another will just use it as a sign that things aren't worth trying. I see people overcome huge obstacles, even if they start with the smallest of baby steps, then others who run into the first hint of trouble, and just seem to shrug their shoulders and say "oh well", and quit.

    Thanks for clarifying that. I have been reading all I can, but it's really hard to tell, without any psychology background, how different effects interact and which may be stronger than others. (And who they might apply to, and in what situation, and with what confounding factors, etc, etc.....) It gets pretty overwhelming; I appreciate the help.

    I've got the glucose study and the belief study (was it the Job et al. paper from 2010 you were referring to?) on my reading list now. Hope you don't mind if I come back in a couple of days with a few more questions :)

  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    The Power of Habit comes into play here. Good post.

    Isn't that a great book? The story of the subject with memory loss was particularly fascinating to me.

    Yes, I really enjoyed it.
  • NikonPal
    NikonPal Posts: 1,346 Member
    Nice thread with lots of good comments...
  • haildodger
    haildodger Posts: 181 Member
    edited December 2014
    Here's a couple of willpower related links:

    http://youtu.be/V5BXuZL1HAg

    Fitness is a skill article.

    (Originally posted by other MFP'ers.)
  • Thanks for posting. I have been struggling with "binges" recently. Made me realize that it;s up to ME to change these habits.
  • mrsmuckster
    mrsmuckster Posts: 444 Member
    Needed this today. Thank you.
  • WickedPineapple
    WickedPineapple Posts: 698 Member
    Well put. I totally agree.
  • gamesandgains
    gamesandgains Posts: 640 Member
    Goood read, thanks.
  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,741 Member
    The Power of Habit comes into play here. Good post.

    Isn't that a great book? The story of the subject with memory loss was particularly fascinating to me.

    Yes, I really enjoyed it.

    Same here. I bought the book after I read it from the library the first time because I knew I'd reference it or want to read it again (which I have). I've also recommended it on these forums a couple of times.

    Thanks for the OP and the topic! Very interesting to me.
  • karyabc
    karyabc Posts: 830 Member
    :# nice post! #Txs
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    BZAH10 wrote: »
    The Power of Habit comes into play here. Good post.

    Isn't that a great book? The story of the subject with memory loss was particularly fascinating to me.

    Yes, I really enjoyed it.

    Same here. I bought the book after I read it from the library the first time because I knew I'd reference it or want to read it again (which I have). I've also recommended it on these forums a couple of times.

    Thanks for the OP and the topic! Very interesting to me.

    I read part of it on an airplane once. I think it was a kindle sample or something. It stuck with me as something I'd want to read, so I finally downloaded it a while back. I really think it has a lot to say.
  • NicoleisQuantized
    NicoleisQuantized Posts: 344 Member
    This thread is absolutely spectacular.
  • ncfitbit
    ncfitbit Posts: 1,058 Member
    In my own small sample of 1 person, I believe this to be true, especially the part about willpower being something that can be strengthened. Three months ago when I first started using MFP it was a lot more difficult to resist some foods. This is where logging ALL my food in MFP day in and day out has been so amazingly helpful. I have learned in three months which food items are worth it to me and others will leave me unsatisfied or hungry at the end of the day. It has become increasingly easier to say "no way" to a stale cookie that someone left on a plate or a cold piece of pizza I wasn't planning to eat. That muscle has become strong because it doesn't even seem like it's a choice for those kinds of items anymore. However, I'm glad I haven't completely avoided all tempting food because when I face something more difficult I know I've been able to make a good choice in the recent past. A hot slice of my favorite pizza still going to be a challenge, my "heavier lifting" right now, but that is okay because I have a lot more confidence now that I will be able to make a choice I can live with.
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