HIIT Training

mrsmia73
mrsmia73 Posts: 14 Member
edited November 9 in Fitness and Exercise
For anyone that does HIGH INTENSITY INTERVAL TRAINING---what do you log it under for exercises? There is nothing that even comes close to matching it :\

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  • jdhcm2006
    jdhcm2006 Posts: 2,254 Member
    edited December 2014
    Aerobics. Or if you have a heart rate monitor you can make your own entry.
  • mrsmia73
    mrsmia73 Posts: 14 Member
    Oh okay---it seems like a harder workout than aerobics because I KNOW that more calories are burned in 20 mins of HIIT than aerobics. Guess I should get a monitor like you suggest.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    I add up the minutes I'm doing it and log it thst way. So if I do 10 minutes of 30sec/30sec intervals I log 5 minutes of running at X mph and that's it since I stand on the treadmill rails during the 30sec recovery intervals.
  • Juvenica
    Juvenica Posts: 460 Member
    jumping jacks , , karate, kick boxing , jumping rope is great , power jacks , ,basically any workout where you jump , is perfect
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    jdhcm2006 wrote: »
    Aerobics. Or if you have a heart rate monitor you can make your own entry.

    If one is really doing HIIT then an HRM is meaningless from a calorie guestimation perspective.

    Call it 200 cals for the 20 minutes and adjust according to results.
  • EricLFC1892
    EricLFC1892 Posts: 85 Member
    edited December 2014
    I do HIIT routine's off youtube that state a calorie burn estimate then create my own exorcise in the log
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    jdhcm2006 wrote: »
    Aerobics. Or if you have a heart rate monitor you can make your own entry.

    HRM is a good training aid for HIIT but the intervals will throw out the calorie estimate as you will be credited with an elevated amount during the recovery phase when your HR is still returning to normal.


  • 47Jacqueline
    47Jacqueline Posts: 6,993 Member
    I create my own exercises for all the stuff I do.
  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,984 Member
    I log them as 8km/h walking as the calorie MFP gives me seems to fit my personal net calorie expenditure for a given time. Note, it's net, thus minus my TDEE/time and only for actual workout without 10 second or whatever breaks I take. In case you're wondering: I don't care what exercise gets listed here. I'm interested in the calories and the duration.
  • I use Vigorous Calisthenics. It's close for me, but I've also recently started using a HRM and adjust ...
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    An HRM is useless for HIIT. It's not what they were designed for.
  • mrsmia73
    mrsmia73 Posts: 14 Member
    I do HIIT routine's off youtube that state a calorie burn estimate then create my own exorcise in the log

    can you point me to the youtube channel or link please? I would love to try it.
  • ashdawg8790
    ashdawg8790 Posts: 819 Member
    fitnessblender.com is a great site and their videos are on youtube as well - they have an approximate calorie burn range for every workout they do
  • sw33tp3a11
    sw33tp3a11 Posts: 4,646 Member
    I create my own under create exercise. I also have a HRM so that helps me log how many calories I burn.
  • njitaliana
    njitaliana Posts: 813 Member
    I don't understand what HIIT is. Can someone explain it?
  • mrsmia73
    mrsmia73 Posts: 14 Member
    fitnessblender.com is a great site and their videos are on youtube as well - they have an approximate calorie burn range for every workout they do

    thank you--I will check them out!!
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  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    njitaliana wrote: »
    I don't understand what HIIT is. Can someone explain it?

    high intensity interval training; short periosds of maximum exertion with rest periods between. It can help to improve VO2Max....

    Most people talking about HIIT on here arn't realy talking about HIIT.
  • sofaking6
    sofaking6 Posts: 4,589 Member
    mrsmia73 wrote: »
    Oh okay---it seems like a harder workout than aerobics because I KNOW that more calories are burned in 20 mins of HIIT than aerobics. Guess I should get a monitor like you suggest.

    It really doesn't matter unless you're using the default calories in MFP...which nobody should be doing! :)

  • mrsmia73
    mrsmia73 Posts: 14 Member
    sofaking6 wrote: »
    mrsmia73 wrote: »
    Oh okay---it seems like a harder workout than aerobics because I KNOW that more calories are burned in 20 mins of HIIT than aerobics. Guess I should get a monitor like you suggest.

    It really doesn't matter unless you're using the default calories in MFP...which nobody should be doing! :)

    I sometimes use the default because I have no other way of knowing how many calories I burned. If i do the treadmill I will input my own calories burned---but for ZUMBA and things like that I use what they have lol
  • ScottyNoHotty
    ScottyNoHotty Posts: 1,957 Member
    OK..explain to me why HIIT would throw off my HRM reading?? I use a Polar FT4 when I do treadmill sprints....30 sec @ 9 mph , 30 sec rest for 20 minutes....my heart rate is from 150 @ rest up to 162 at full run. A burn is a burn....
  • sofaking6
    sofaking6 Posts: 4,589 Member
    mrsmia73 wrote: »
    sofaking6 wrote: »
    mrsmia73 wrote: »
    Oh okay---it seems like a harder workout than aerobics because I KNOW that more calories are burned in 20 mins of HIIT than aerobics. Guess I should get a monitor like you suggest.

    It really doesn't matter unless you're using the default calories in MFP...which nobody should be doing! :)

    I sometimes use the default because I have no other way of knowing how many calories I burned. If i do the treadmill I will input my own calories burned---but for ZUMBA and things like that I use what they have lol

    For me, they're roughly double what I actually burn. But, you'll find out how close it is to your actual burn over time - if you find you're not losing weight look to that as a likely culprit :)

  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    edited December 2014
    OK..explain to me why HIIT would throw off my HRM reading?? I use a Polar FT4 when I do treadmill sprints....30 sec @ 9 mph , 30 sec rest for 20 minutes....my heart rate is from 150 @ rest up to 162 at full run. A burn is a burn....

    Largely because HR as a proxy for calorie expenditure is based on assumptions around how the heart is performing; steady state in the aerobic range. Rapid transitions and anaerobic performance will lead to significant overestimations.

    That said, you're not really doing HIIT given those figures.

    I'll do:
    15 minute warm up at 6 min/km, with HR about 130-140bpm
    Some combination of 100metre, 200 metre or 400 metre fast intervals at a 3-4 min/ km by 60 seconds at 6 min/ km rest, giving me HR of up to about 190bpm
    15 min cool down at 6 min/ km again, generally with HR of 140-150 as a result of cardiac elevation

    The other point is that cardiac elevation is going to lead to increased reported expenditure. Recognising that you've got an FT4 you don't have the opportunity to review HR performance over a session, but even on a fairly slow session for 30 minutes it'll steadily increase over time.

    Essentially over-reporting for the majority of people is going to lead to a lower than planned deficit.

    In 20 minutes, with about 10 minutes worth of effort you're still only looking at 150-200 cals on a good day.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited December 2014
    jdhcm2006 wrote: »
    Aerobics. Or if you have a heart rate monitor you can make your own entry.

    HRMs notoriously over-estimate calorie burns for interval-type exercise. Divide by three is a reasonable starting point.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    mrsmia73 wrote: »
    Oh okay---it seems like a harder workout than aerobics because I KNOW that more calories are burned in 20 mins of HIIT than aerobics.

    Nope.

    Not correct.
  • jeremywm1977
    jeremywm1977 Posts: 657 Member
    edited December 2014
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    jdhcm2006 wrote: »
    Aerobics. Or if you have a heart rate monitor you can make your own entry.

    HRMs notoriously over-estimate calorie burns for interval-type exercise. Divide by three is a reasonable starting point.
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    mrsmia73 wrote: »
    Oh okay---it seems like a harder workout than aerobics because I KNOW that more calories are burned in 20 mins of HIIT than aerobics.

    Nope.

    Not correct.

    Perhaps you might want to include something to back this up? You speak so definitive in your response, yet you add nothing to demonstrate why your answer is definitive.

    I'm not going to go so far as to definitely doubt your response, but can you please elaborate.......in the interest of being a bit more helpful?
  • conniedj
    conniedj Posts: 470 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    mrsmia73 wrote: »
    Oh okay---it seems like a harder workout than aerobics because I KNOW that more calories are burned in 20 mins of HIIT than aerobics.

    Nope.

    Not correct.

    True HIIT, as a PP said, pushes the anaerobic threshold at every working interval. You will not burn as many calories in 30 mins of steady state aerobics as you will in the same amount of time doing HIIT.



  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,984 Member
    njitaliana wrote: »
    I don't understand what HIIT is. Can someone explain it?

    high intensity interval training; short periosds of maximum exertion with rest periods between. It can help to improve VO2Max....

    Most people talking about HIIT on here arn't realy talking about HIIT.

    That's true! I'd rather call it higher intensity workout.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    conniedj wrote: »
    True HIIT, as a PP said, pushes the anaerobic threshold at every working interval. You will not burn as many calories in 30 mins of steady state aerobics as you will in the same amount of time doing HIIT.

    If someone was to claim 30 minutes of HIIT I wouldn't believe them in the first place. Notwithstanding that, the actual expentidure is likely to net off or be insignificantly higher than an equivalent period of moderate to high itensity steady state. The periods of rest mean that one isn't burning as much as one might think.

    Of course it does rather depend on how much effort one puts in during the rest periods. As an example if one is using a treadmill, and jumping off the belt to stand on the frame during the rest periods then that's very different from a track session where one changes speed but keeps moving.

    Of course one should remember that a HIIT session isn't about burning calories, it's about improving VO2Max.
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