I need more 'natural' protein
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jaquelynny wrote: »__drmerc__ wrote: »jaquelynny wrote: »greek yogurt (try mixed with tbsp natural pb or pb2), cottage cheese, tuna on celery, hard boiled eggs, jerky
there is a recipe for protein pancakes (egg white, cottage cheese, oatmeal) very good
Are you trolling the OP? Cottage cheese, jerky, greek yogurt and pb2 are all highly processed foods
i have no time for that BS- you forum natzis are weird sometimes picking apart answers, i didn't only say those things-she said she didnt want shakes, those are other options. take eit easy
It was kind of a valid question given the OPs post...because I'm trying to stay away from processed foods.
By giving her foods that seem to directly oppose her desire to stay away from processed foods, it comes across as a little baiting.
Now if you want to get into a discussion about why she cares so much about processed foods, that would be fair, but there are other ways to do that.
except most whey is just dehydrated whey from milk- it's completely "natural" and something I believe if you are motivated to do enough on your own- you can.
But I would just drink full milk.
I don't disagree, but its naturalness doesn't negate the fact that it's still processed. My overall point was that the semantics and use of avoiding "processed foods" was completely side-stepped as a topic of conversation.
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monkeypantz wrote: »Hello!
I'm upping my protein intake to 50% - and I'm really struggling (Carbs at 30% and Fats at 20%).
I do not want to take protein shakes, because I'm trying to stay away from processed foods.
Any high protein meals / snacks you can suggest?
Meat. Meat ALL the time.
Want some meat with that tea?
Want some meat with that cookie?
Oh look at my toothpaste made from pate.0 -
monkeypantz wrote: »Oh look at my toothpaste made from pate.
bahahahahaaa that cracked me up thanks
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no problem. I make it myself. It's artisanally crafted, and small batch.
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monkeypantz wrote: »My Personal Trainer has suggested this because I'm an 'endomorph' - so 50% protein is what I'm going to try and it's bloody hard.
If it's bloody hard, it's not going to work long enough to lose the weight. Trainer or not, the best way to do weight loss is to follow the easiest way for you that would still keep you at a deficit even if it's not too popular with your trainer or other people.
I have lost nearly 100 pounds so far with about 40-80 gram of protein daily. If you tell someone on here that you are eating 40 grams of protein, somehow at the end of the conversation you will end up a blob of fat and bones and no muscle.
Now if I did eat as much protein as I should be having I would have quit a long time ago because I don't like meat, can eat poultry only occasionally, allergic to egg whites so I can only have them occasionally, and the only seafood I'll put in my mouth is fish and even that I'm not a big fan..
Long story short: do what you would stick to, not what is bloody hard and you will get there. If you can manage enough protein without suffering that's great! If not, that's still great. 50% is an overkill anyway.0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »Long story short: do what you would stick to, not what is bloody hard and you will get there. If you can manage enough protein without suffering that's great! If not, that's still great. 50% is an overkill anyway.
OMG, ALL OF THIS!
The actual medical research on protein suggests that all the fad diets have the goals set far too high. Your body does not need massive quantities of protein. It needs an adequate amount to keep you healthy, that is all!
Any personal trainer throwing around words like "endomorph" doesn't know his @$$ from his elbow.0 -
Find a local provider of raw milk, and drink it raw or "process" it yourself into kefir. You can read up on how to make your own kefir all over the internet, and buy some grains raised in raw milk. Just did myself, (purchased on ebay) though I'm lazier and am feeding them store bought whole milk instead. On day 4 since their arrival and my tablespoon of kefir grains is working on turning a cup of whole milk to kefir. Hoping I don't kill them and can raise them to provide me with a quart of kefir a day. So much cheaper than the store bought kefir and has beneficial yeasts etc that are not in the store bought mixes. Between the 2 of us and 5 dogs, a quart a day will get used. Its high in protein and the grains process the lactose for you, so even my somewhat lactose intolerant system can have all I want.
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I also would like to be able to eat the protein without going to a lot of processed stuff. Yes, I do eat the Greek yogurt and the occasional protein bar (with chocolate more than nuts). I really don't like the whey powder because it tastes downright awful. Also, I have to watch the sugar alcohol in some of the protein bars because it does give me stomach problems. I do eat chicken and pork (not all the time, but when Mom cooks it a certain way, WOW), but not all the time.0
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Hippies and Nazi's in one thread. That put a little sunshine in my cloudy day.0
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There is a variation of keto called Optimal Ketogenic (OKL Living is a MFP group, and Optimal Ketogenic Living on Facebook) that is lower in fat than most keto diets. The idea is for your body to switch from burning sugar (hence the low carb part) to burning fat. But you want your body to burn your own stored fat more than eaten fat. So it's lower/moderate fat until you lose the body fat that you want to, then you can raise your fat intake.
They have a chart on the Facebook group to help set macros; I don't know if I can post it or not but I'll try.0 -
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Peg4Jesus7 wrote: »
There is a variation of keto called Optimal Ketogenic (OKL Living is a MFP group, and Optimal Ketogenic Living on Facebook) that is lower in fat than most keto diets. The idea is for your body to switch from burning sugar (hence the low carb part) to burning fat. But you want your body to burn your own stored fat more than eaten fat. So it's lower/moderate fat until you lose the body fat that you want to, then you can raise your fat intake.
They have a chart on the Facebook group to help set macros; I don't know if I can post it or not but I'll try.
They also recommend eating at least 30 grams of protein per meal, and only eating 3 meals a day (no snacks), with 4-5 hours between meals, to help keep blood sugar levels more stable. Hope this helps! 0 -
lol, this thread got resurrected for keto silliness.0
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Peg4Jesus7 wrote: »There is a variation of keto called Optimal Ketogenic (OKL Living is a MFP group, and Optimal Ketogenic Living on Facebook) that is lower in fat than most keto diets. The idea is for your body to switch from burning sugar (hence the low carb part) to burning fat. But you want your body to burn your own stored fat more than eaten fat. So it's lower/moderate fat until you lose the body fat that you want to, then you can raise your fat intake.
They have a chart on the Facebook group to help set macros; I don't know if I can post it or not but I'll try.
Seems like it's still high fat, just not as much (and I'm not criticizing that, I think the only alternative would be super high protein which seems unnecessary and counterproductive if you are doing keto).
The protein recommendation under that plan for me would apparently be at least 91 grams or 20%, depending on the source (I do 30% now), so pretty moderate protein. The fat would end up at around 75% of calories, which seems quite high fat (again, if that what works for you, no criticism from me). I understand that some keto plans are more skeptical of protein because it can kick you out of keto.0 -
Peg4Jesus7 wrote: »
There is a variation of keto called Optimal Ketogenic (OKL Living is a MFP group, and Optimal Ketogenic Living on Facebook) that is lower in fat than most keto diets. The idea is for your body to switch from burning sugar (hence the low carb part) to burning fat. But you want your body to burn your own stored fat more than eaten fat. So it's lower/moderate fat until you lose the body fat that you want to, then you can raise your fat intake.
They have a chart on the Facebook group to help set macros; I don't know if I can post it or not but I'll try.
Lower in fat, yes, but still high fat.0
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