Skinny to Fat to Skinny... because Fat=Lazy??
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It already is unPC to tell someone that it IS possible to lose weight and manage their body reasonably. Everyone has some excuse- and if you tell them it's just an excuse- they will just call you callous and mean.
That's sad to hear~ nothing good can come from people feeling inhibited from telling the truth.
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In the first programme I thought she had some valid points but in the second programme she just annoyed me because as the therapist in Part 2 pointed out what she is doing is not reality she does not have a weight problem generally and is very fit even carrying the extra weight. She is right on child hood obesity and teenagers being overweight too which I feel very strongly about but overall I think the programme was a joke.0
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Secondly- the woman's making money by being annoying- how could ANYONE possibly be mad at that? If anything I'm a straight up hater- if I could do that instead of sit at a desk you're damn right I would.
Why you don't you just retweet her tweet about the nurse from Scotland then? That would probably get you enough hate to be going on with.
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Secondly- the woman's making money by being annoying- how could ANYONE possibly be mad at that? If anything I'm a straight up hater- if I could do that instead of sit at a desk you're damn right I would.
Why you don't you just retweet her tweet about the nurse from Scotland then? That would probably get you enough hate to be going on with.
because I'm not on twitter.
And that's not original enough to make me enough money to quit my job.
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Your criticism of her comments is that they are "unoriginal"? Fair enough.0
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no i was saying re- tweeting her comments wasn't original enough to make me any money.0
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I'm not from the UK and not familiar with this woman, but this ONE LINE made me think she is seriously deranged: She said: 'I didn’t cry at my weddings. I didn’t cry giving birth. But gaining weight reduced me to a blubbering wreck.'
I'm sorry, not only does she seem like a frigid person based on that statement, but becoming overweight (it appears not obese, but overweight) is what drives you to have emotions? That's the ONE thing? Something purely superficial? I don't know, I think that is a really unhealthy attitude towards weight and your looks. The right attitude would be: I love myself, I have value at any size, if I choose to lose weight for my reasons that is my business and no one else's.
That is my biggest issue with people who bash "fat positivists" or whatever the correct term is. These people aren't saying that everyone should go out and get fat, they are saying they deserve respect no matter what their size. The response of "oh well that's so unhealthy" just misses the point. If an individual chooses to be unhealthy that is their choice. For example, I don't see smokers or social drinkers facing the same type of judgement.
I guess this woman really bothers me and her effort to "prove fat people wrong" seems cruel and misguided.
Edit: woops, apparently she's Australian not British.0 -
Publicity stunt. The more controversial, the better.0
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OnTheGround wrote: »I think she kind of has a point, but there is also a point to the fact that it's an overly simplified take on being overweight. She's gaining IN ORDER TO LOSE. She didn't grow up fat or get fat by the course of life than many of us do. So........I mean, she's technically right, it's easy to lose weight. But she's not taking into consideration the mental blocks.
But I think anyone that yells "omg fatshaming" needs to just shut up already. Oy.
i think it's also fit-shaming. there are throngs of us here int he MFP community that were never overweight because of eating issues and still get told it's easier or whatever. And when we lose weight, it's cause we must have advantages, bull like that. these conversations will come and go all around us for the rest of our lives because women.
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Forget her as a person and her general attitude to everything, I was curious to watch the programme as I have struggled with my weight and wanted to see how easy it was going to be for her.
After the programme though, I think there are a few things I realised which did not apply to her.
Firstly she is obviously someone who is naturally slim. Yes she exercised regularly before the 'experiment' (though only 3 times a week, not daily) and she also ate 'normally' ie. did not count calories, diet and she ate what she wanted when she was hungry but unfortunately for some of us we could not even DREAM of being her size/weight by doing that. When she was losing weight after gaining it, she was eating around 1700 calories per day. Most people trying to lose weight can't eat anywhere near that many calories even if they are working out regularly, at least I know I can't.
I noticed that before the experiment she weighed 8 stone 13 and had 15 percent body fat. I have only ever been able to get down to 8 stone 9 and around 25 percent body fat at my absolute smallest and I am MUCH shorter than her. Also, I was only able to do that by eating very very little and exercising around 6 days a week and it was not sustainable for me to maintain that long-term.
The other thing I realised after watching the programme and listening to what she had to say was that she had the motivation to be thin because she has been thin all her life and didn't know what it felt like to be any different. She also had the mentality of someone who has never been fat, struggled with their weight or every really enjoyed eating food. When she was gaining the weight she had to force the food in, while for many people who are overweight it is not a chore, but a pleasure to eat. Most of us put on weight over a period of years, not just a couple of months, so we don't overeat 1000s of calories per day like she did, it's a gradual process.
When I was at my heaviest in my early to mid 20s and I weighed nearly 13 stone I ate what I wanted, drank a lot of alcohol and did not exercise because I enjoyed living like that and didn't have any kind of real incentive to change my habits. I had never been very thin, though I was smaller in my teens but everyone around me told me I looked great, including my boyfriend. My friends were all similar to me, and although I didn't like buying clothes in the size I was nothing else really motivated me to change.
The first time I really felt motivated to do something about my size/weight was when my boyfriend pointed out that I had become quite self-conscious in front of strangers and hated looking at photos of myself and also rarely looked at myself in the mirror. He then left me for someone else and I realised that if I wanted to attract someone new I had to do something about my appearance because I was too self-conscious the way I was.
Once I had got down to my target weight after changing my habits and getting fit/losing weight all that time ago, I loved how that made me feel and that has been enough to prevent me from re-gaining all the weight I lost, though I have struggled to stay as thin as I was when I initially lost weight. For some of us it's a constant battle, and it's just not possible to see food as simply a fuel.
I put that down to motivation again, as people now tell me that I look good again, although I am probably at least 21-30 pounds overweight now, with a very high body fat percentage. I also love food, and find it hard to give-up, whereas someone who has always been naturally thin doesn't have that problem, or doesn't have to watch what they eat as they don't need to think about such things. I am unhappy with my weight and size now, because I pay more attention to it, but with age and a shot metabolism it has become harder and hard. Katie Hopkins didn't have those problems.
A friend of mine is an obsessive exerciser after being fat in her 20s, and has always looked good since I've known her in the last 10 years because she has exercised for around 10 hours per week running and cycling. She has been able to eat and drink what she wants and has always been fairly happy with the way she looks. She recently became pregnant and was not able to exercise in the same way during her pregnancy, though she had to stop drinking alcohol and was also a lot more careful with her diet as she was paranoid about getting fat. She did use the gym for walking on the treadmill and she has now ended up about 20 pounds lighter than she was before her pregnancy since she had her baby a month ago. That is not a normal situation for most new mothers, but because of her obsession with being fit and thin, she has now ended up a little too much the other way.
My point is that everyone is different, and experiments like Katie Hopkins' don't really help or achieve anything as what works for some won't work for all and I therefore believe you should not judge anyone on the way they look. Everyone has a different mentality and different struggles to get through. In her case maybe she was subconsciously a little bit obsessive about being thin added to the fact she was blessed with a very fast metabolism so the 'experiment' was successful for her.
She did acknowledge that it was quite hard to exercise when you are carrying more weight and you can become more self-conscious in the gym etc. and that is also a problem for many.0 -
not for nothingI noticed that before the experiment she weighed 8 stone 13 and had 15 percent body fat. I have only ever been able to get down to 8 stone 9 and around 25 percent body fat at my absolute smallest and I am MUCH shorter than her. Also, I was only able to do that by eating very very little and exercising around 6 days a week and it was not sustainable for me to maintain that long-term.
The other thing I realised after watching the programme and listening to what she had to say was that she had the motivation to be thin because she has been thin all her life and didn't know what it felt like to be any different. She also had the mentality of someone who has never been fat, struggled with their weight or every really enjoyed eating food
please don't assume "thin" people- or people who just happen to be smaller than you don't enjoy food.
Seriously- most of us our foodies.
Secondly at 25% body fat you should be more than capable of losing more weight. It's not "fun" but it's doable.0 -
She kicked a seagull? Bich.0
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I am actually gaining right now (on purpose) .. only to turn around in a few months and losing most if not almost all of it. Why .. body composition reasons. For me it will work cause I found losing body fat relatively easy. As a result I am not scared in the least of this body composition change process I am in right now.
If you really want to see this in action .. check out this site by a famous personal trainer (Drew Manning) .. he went from fit 2 fat 2 fit again in a year. It is amazing.
fit2fat2fit.com/0
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