Struggling to gain mass

Hey guys,
I've been trying to gain mass for some time now. Im doing that whole low reps heavy weight approach. But with that all I've really noticed are more strength gains than anything else. My diet consist of mainly pastas, chicken, and rice. But I'm in the Marines, so 8 hours of sleep isn't very normal. Any advice?
Thanks, I'm new to this.

Replies

  • How low on reps? You're gonna want to mix in some hypertrophic weight lifting also. If you aren't getting enough rest I'd stick to a 3 day split. Give your nervouse system more rest. Example mon: chest, tri. Wed: back , bi. Fri: shoulders legs. You may be over training relative to your resting ability.
  • anorciia
    anorciia Posts: 4 Member
    Make sure you are getting at least 1 G protein per pound of bodyweight

    After your top end work set for your main lift for the day (squat, deadlift, bench, overhead press) add a back off set. Use 90% of the weight from your top end set and match the reps you completed in the top end set

    For example, you work up to a top end set of overhead press of 100 lb for 6 reps. Rest 90 sec or so

    Press 90 lb for 6 reps then move on to accessory work

    You need to eat an excess of calories to grow. Try 16 calories per pound of body weight. If you weigh 200 lb, then eat 3200 kcal per day

    Give those a try for 3 weeks and then evaluate
  • xcalygrl
    xcalygrl Posts: 1,897 Member
    To gain mass, you need to be in a caloric surplus. You also need to lift heavy (so low reps of 5-8 weight heavy weights is good). You can also look at a hypertrophy program, like Layne Norton's program (http://www.simplyshredded.com/mega-feature-layne-norton-training-series-full-powerhypertrophy-routine-updated-2011.html).

    This is also a good read: http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/truth-rep-ranges-muscle-growth
  • 5x5 on compound movements, and 4x10 on ISO movements. I usually lift 5-6 days a week
  • xcalygrl
    xcalygrl Posts: 1,897 Member
    Mervynd123 wrote: »
    5x5 on compound movements, and 4x10 on ISO movements. I usually lift 5-6 days a week

    Are you doing the 5x5 compounds 5-6 days a week? Or just 2-3 days a week with 3-4 isolation days?

    If doing the compounds 5-6 days a week, that is way too much. You can get away with doing compounds 2-3 times a week as long as they are full body (squats, deads, OHP, bench, and rows).
  • SpecialSundae
    SpecialSundae Posts: 795 Member
    If you're not gaining weight you need to eat more. It's as simple as that!

    Total volume is the key for hypertrophy but you actually need to eat enough to see the gains.
  • No, for example. On chest day. My workout will consit of
    Compound 5x5
    ISO 4x10
    Compound 5x5
    ISO 4x10
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    Eat more
  • 3laine75
    3laine75 Posts: 3,069 Member
    Eat more

    This

  • This content has been removed.
  • bostonwolf
    bostonwolf Posts: 3,038 Member
    Mervynd123 wrote: »
    Hey guys,
    I've been trying to gain mass for some time now. Im doing that whole low reps heavy weight approach. But with that all I've really noticed are more strength gains than anything else. My diet consist of mainly pastas, chicken, and rice. But I'm in the Marines, so 8 hours of sleep isn't very normal. Any advice?
    Thanks, I'm new to this.

    Eat more, and mostly fat. You aren't going to gain mass unless you are eating at surplus

  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    OP deactivate?
  • This content has been removed.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    bostonwolf wrote: »
    Mervynd123 wrote: »
    Hey guys,
    I've been trying to gain mass for some time now. Im doing that whole low reps heavy weight approach. But with that all I've really noticed are more strength gains than anything else. My diet consist of mainly pastas, chicken, and rice. But I'm in the Marines, so 8 hours of sleep isn't very normal. Any advice?
    Thanks, I'm new to this.

    Eat more, and mostly fat. You aren't going to gain mass unless you are eating at surplus

    Mostly fat? Why?

    Cuz carbs are the debil. Who wants insulin when trying to gain mass?

    Wait, wut?

  • Tshay5
    Tshay5 Posts: 8 Member
    i don't have any personal experience but my husband lifts to gain and he has a mass gainer protein he uses to supplement caloric intake
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    edited January 2015
    MrM27 wrote: »
    bostonwolf wrote: »
    Mervynd123 wrote: »
    Hey guys,
    I've been trying to gain mass for some time now. Im doing that whole low reps heavy weight approach. But with that all I've really noticed are more strength gains than anything else. My diet consist of mainly pastas, chicken, and rice. But I'm in the Marines, so 8 hours of sleep isn't very normal. Any advice?
    Thanks, I'm new to this.

    Eat more, and mostly fat. You aren't going to gain mass unless you are eating at surplus

    Mostly fat? Why?

    Cuz carbs are the debil. Who wants insulin when trying to gain mass?

    Wait, wut?
    Lol. I know people who do kind of think that though.
    Either way, adding in mostly just fat sources could lead to the OP becoming very full.
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,382 Member
    Tshay5 wrote: »
    i don't have any personal experience but my husband lifts to gain and he has a mass gainer protein he uses to supplement caloric intake

    Mass gainer = $$expensive calories.

    Nothing fancy about them.

  • Unknown
    edited January 2015
    This content has been removed.
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    edited January 2015
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    bostonwolf wrote: »
    Mervynd123 wrote: »
    Hey guys,
    I've been trying to gain mass for some time now. Im doing that whole low reps heavy weight approach. But with that all I've really noticed are more strength gains than anything else. My diet consist of mainly pastas, chicken, and rice. But I'm in the Marines, so 8 hours of sleep isn't very normal. Any advice?
    Thanks, I'm new to this.

    Eat more, and mostly fat. You aren't going to gain mass unless you are eating at surplus

    Mostly fat? Why?

    Cuz carbs are the debil. Who wants insulin when trying to gain mass?

    Wait, wut?
    Lol. I know people who do kind of think that though.
    Either way, adding in mostly just fat sources could lead to the OP becoming very full.

    No it wouldn't lead to him being very full.
    I posted that because from own experience I've noticed that. It may not be true for him, but that's what I've found for me.

  • Unknown
    edited January 2015
    This content has been removed.
  • Mervynd, the key to gaining mass is increased volume. As mentioned, more calories are important, but adjust your training to increase the volume. I would add more sets. 5 x 5 is a great strength builder. Try to back off to a moderate weight and do 8 x 5 or 10 x 4 or something like that. Start to calculate your total poundage. Your intensity (% of 1 RM) will go down, but the total weight moved (volume) should go up.
  • Sam_I_Am77
    Sam_I_Am77 Posts: 2,093 Member
    edited January 2015
    MrM27 wrote: »
    bostonwolf wrote: »
    Mervynd123 wrote: »
    Hey guys,
    I've been trying to gain mass for some time now. Im doing that whole low reps heavy weight approach. But with that all I've really noticed are more strength gains than anything else. My diet consist of mainly pastas, chicken, and rice. But I'm in the Marines, so 8 hours of sleep isn't very normal. Any advice?
    Thanks, I'm new to this.

    Eat more, and mostly fat. You aren't going to gain mass unless you are eating at surplus

    Mostly fat? Why?

    Cuz carbs are the debil. Who wants insulin when trying to gain mass?

    Wait, wut?

    LOL! What good is Insulin anyway...?

    OP: You're not eating enough man. You're a Marine so you're incredibly active in-addition to strength-training you need to eat like a mad-man. If you get cerebral about your training, work-up to 44kcal's per kg of body-weight. If you weigh 100kg's for example, that's 4,400kcals you need to consume. I ran across this in a pair of research articles during a nutrition class last summer, pretty interesting. You probably don't want to jump from what you're doing now straight to 44kcals / kg, but work-up to it for sure.

This discussion has been closed.