WOMEN*** heavy lifting questions
ktaylor1188
Posts: 141 Member
ok...im not going to go too much into my past but i will start by saying i have been lifting for close to a year. i started off with a PT to help me with my form and the other basics but have since been doing it on my own. i don't really follow a "program" per-say but i do have a schedule...
i alternate tri-weekly light(2x20/30sets) reg(3x10/12sets) and heavy(5x5)
each week i do chest/back, shoulders/arms, and finally legs.
now everyone has their own opinions and what not, im completely aware of this. but im also aware of the fact that throughout this process i am always learning and trying to change it up...i guess im at that point now. im thinking i would possibly like to try a new weightlifting program/schedule of sorts. anyone have any favorites? something easy to follow? let me know
and if you could explain a bit about why you liked it and how you came across it that would be lovely! thanks so much for any feedback!
-Kelsey
i alternate tri-weekly light(2x20/30sets) reg(3x10/12sets) and heavy(5x5)
each week i do chest/back, shoulders/arms, and finally legs.
now everyone has their own opinions and what not, im completely aware of this. but im also aware of the fact that throughout this process i am always learning and trying to change it up...i guess im at that point now. im thinking i would possibly like to try a new weightlifting program/schedule of sorts. anyone have any favorites? something easy to follow? let me know
and if you could explain a bit about why you liked it and how you came across it that would be lovely! thanks so much for any feedback!-Kelsey
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Weight training is not gender specific. FYI.0
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Starting strength, strong lifts, and new rules of lifting will be the most common suggestions, but there are zillions of programs out there. Do some reading for yourself, then let your goals, preferences, schedule and ability dictate the right program(s) for you.0
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I agree with both previous posters. I often train with my BF and the only thing that changes is the amount of the weights. I currently mix it up, high rep, low rep, super sets. speed. I'm a fan of bodybuilding.com for workout ideas also.0
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Are you stalled out on 5x5, or just looking for something new? Wendler 5/3/1 is well thought of as an intermediate program if you're trying to break through a stall.0
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Well- My first thought honestly is Wendlers or Sheiko beg 1 and/or 2.
But my second thought- are you trying to get straight up stronger- or do more definition?
Because if you are happy doign splits- go over to BB.com and get one of their programs- it'll be more of a split like you're doing now.
If you want to get stronger: do wendlers- greyskull or sheiko beg 1 or 2.
I skipped sheiko 1- I'm by no means a beginner- but I wanted to get a better idea of how he starts his lifters- so even after doing some shieko programs- I dropped back to Sheiko beginner 2- which is making me happy- even as an intermediate lifter.
You can always do one of the beginner programs and see what it gets you- I've been lifting all my life and I still consider doing it. I haven't yet - but it's not off the table- I'd stall way faster than a brand new person- but it's worth a look see to do a real program.
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What about re-visiting with your trainer for some suggestions? I've only been doing heavy lifting (well, heavy...that may be too generous, but I'm getting there ) with a trainer for a couple months, so this is just thinking out loud. My trainer shakes up my routine alot--I rarely do the same thing every day beyond the primary compound lifts, because he is continually evaluating where my weak spots are on my lifts, and putting me through various accessory exercises to target those weak spots.
If you're at a point that you're ready for a change, maybe see if a personal trainer could do the following over a session or two: 1) watch your main compound lifts and check for form, your current weight load, and weak spots that may be holding you back from your potential; and 2) running you through some new/different accessory exercises that target those weaker spots. And then go from there.
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Are you stalled out on 5x5, or just looking for something new? Wendler 5/3/1 is well thought of as an intermediate program if you're trying to break through a stall.
I'm doing Wendlers now. I was also doing my own routine/something put together by a trainer. I wanted to get stronger and had been doing a 4 day split so I preferred 5/3/1 to a really beginner program. I'm still getting the hang of the assistance routine I prefer but I really love this program. Super easy to follow.0 -
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thank you for the feedback. i will look into them.0
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Lot's of programs and for every program you'll find a woman who loves it. You gotta find what suits you. Sounds hokey, I know, but it's true. It depends on time, goals, equipment, blahblah
I've gone New Rules of Lifting for Women (starts fine and then gets...complicated) Strong lifts 5*5 (good. Made great progress) and Strong Curves (as my goals shifted and I found SC suited those goals)0 -
I was doing a 5x5 but just started the Strong Curves program to switch it up. I doing the 12 week beginner program but there are several other programs to follow, as well as a ton of alternate exercises.0
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ktaylor1188 wrote: »
Well- I"m a woman- and I'm saying the same thing... and they are going to say the same thing if they know their salt.
Ultimately training isn't gender specific and ultimately there is no right or wrong answer- pick a goal- find a program that meets that goal and train for it.
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I follow this. Every 4 weeks, you decrease the reps. The idea is your suppose to lift heavier every time, and eventually the heavier you lift, the less reps you do. There is a full 3 month plan. I also don't follow the supplements and stuff but I do follow the cardio they have.
Here's the website: http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-ultimate-female-training-guide.html
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I was doing pretty much the same routine, until I started reading various women's fitness mags geared toward lifting (Muscle & Fitness Hers, Oxygen and a new one I discovered today: Strong. Once you get past all of the supplement ads, they have a lot of different routines that I have incorporated into my own. I'm sure the same stuff that's in the magazine is probably on the website. I like having a varied routine that way I know I won't get bored.0
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I will say that many of the non-woman specified programs I've looked at assume that the reader is male...and occasionally will make certain recommendations that may be good for male beginners but out of reach for just about all female beginners. (Anything that starts you out with pullups, for example)
But, generally speaking, muscles are muscles. Unless we are talking about Kegels.0 -
I lift heavy, i train Westside conjugate.0
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http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-ultimate-female-training-guide.html
This is my favorite workout to follow and the I think the article is excellent. It's what I was using before I tore my ACL. It's nothing earth shattering, it's all basic stuff, but might be a nice switch from your current routine0 -
I have followed this program recently, and liked it so much, I went 3 months straight with it...and will repeat right after I get through a dumb minor knee injury...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/erin-stern-elite-body-4-week-fitness-trainer-training.html
I train at home, IMO the exercise lineup is uncomplicated, does not contain any fancy machines, has lots of solid compound lifts, and my body gets enough recovery time with the 4 day split.
The workouts have many supersets, which are not intended for the pursuit of significant PRs. You can add weight, when you feel comfortable, but you would mainly be training to failure at last set/last rep of the supersets, by chosing a lighter weight for the individual lifts.
The split strictly separates muscle groups, and 'big' whole-body lifts, like deadlifts are not part of the program. In my experience, this is to avoid exhausting too many muscle groups at one time, and it will allow sufficient recovery after the very demanding supersets.
Erin's shoulders are sort of a 'calling card', and if you like the visual of a small waist/hourglass figure you will enjoy the focus on upper body workouts. The one leg day is plenty, in many ways....ouch....
The posted exercise lineup is a bit different than the videos. I recommend watching the videos, though. The whole thing gets a lot less intimidating, after you hear her version, and see her doing the workouts.
The exercises are demanding, and you should aim for the prescibed reps/set. (Adjust weights if in doubt...) The program will likely not work, if you skip exercises, or if you don't try to work up to at least a few reps of things like pushups. Also, it won't get you anywhere, if you try to mix-n-match this with another program. This was set for 4 weeks, and after 12 weeks straight, I can say, give it all, and it will show progress for any level of experience.
Good luck and happy lifting!0 -
You would be surprised at how many men can't do a pullup. It took me forever to do one good pullup and now I can get maybe 10 on my first set. The advice is sound for men and women and both can use assistance bands or machines or even negatives to start.I will say that many of the non-woman specified programs I've looked at assume that the reader is male...and occasionally will make certain recommendations that may be good for male beginners but out of reach for just about all female beginners. (Anything that starts you out with pullups, for example)
But, generally speaking, muscles are muscles. Unless we are talking about Kegels.
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I have followed this program recently, and liked it so much, I went 3 months straight with it...and will repeat right after I get through a dumb minor knee injury...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/erin-stern-elite-body-4-week-fitness-trainer-training.html
I train at home, IMO the exercise lineup is uncomplicated, does not contain any fancy machines, has lots of solid compound lifts, and my body gets enough recovery time with the 4 day split.
The workouts have many supersets, which are not intended for the pursuit of significant PRs. You can add weight, when you feel comfortable, but you would mainly be training to failure at last set/last rep of the supersets, by chosing a lighter weight for the individual lifts.
The split strictly separates muscle groups, and 'big' whole-body lifts, like deadlifts are not part of the program. In my experience, this is to avoid exhausting too many muscle groups at one time, and it will allow sufficient recovery after the very demanding supersets.
Erin's shoulders are sort of a 'calling card', and if you like the visual of a small waist/hourglass figure you will enjoy the focus on upper body workouts. The one leg day is plenty, in many ways....ouch....
The posted exercise lineup is a bit different than the videos. I recommend watching the videos, though. The whole thing gets a lot less intimidating, after you hear her version, and see her doing the workouts.
The exercises are demanding, and you should aim for the prescibed reps/set. (Adjust weights if in doubt...) The program will likely not work, if you skip exercises, or if you don't try to work up to at least a few reps of things like pushups. Also, it won't get you anywhere, if you try to mix-n-match this with another program. This was set for 4 weeks, and after 12 weeks straight, I can say, give it all, and it will show progress for any level of experience.
Good luck and happy lifting!
I also am doing Erin Stern's program. I'm in my 4th week and have been enjoying it. However, I did add deadlifts and leg presses to my leg day yesterday just because I enjoy them. I will be hurting today for sure. I agree this is a great program and easy to follow. I took h7463's recommendation and viewed the videos instead of relying on the website's exercise guide and this helped as they slightly vary. I'd recommend you try this program.0 -
I've done the simply shredded one above, and I've done another program from bodybuilding.com which was glute focused similar to SC I think, a while ago as well. I've enjoyed them both. Now I'm on a 4 day split similar to the erin stern program. Once I lose my enthusiasm and get bored with the workout I'm doing, then I switch it up.....usually every few months.
There are tons of programs online. As above, when hubby and I train together, we do the same workout with different weights. 0 -
christylynn622 wrote: »I have followed this program recently, and liked it so much, I went 3 months straight with it...and will repeat right after I get through a dumb minor knee injury...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/erin-stern-elite-body-4-week-fitness-trainer-training.html
I train at home, IMO the exercise lineup is uncomplicated, does not contain any fancy machines, has lots of solid compound lifts, and my body gets enough recovery time with the 4 day split.
The workouts have many supersets, which are not intended for the pursuit of significant PRs. You can add weight, when you feel comfortable, but you would mainly be training to failure at last set/last rep of the supersets, by chosing a lighter weight for the individual lifts.
The split strictly separates muscle groups, and 'big' whole-body lifts, like deadlifts are not part of the program. In my experience, this is to avoid exhausting too many muscle groups at one time, and it will allow sufficient recovery after the very demanding supersets.
Erin's shoulders are sort of a 'calling card', and if you like the visual of a small waist/hourglass figure you will enjoy the focus on upper body workouts. The one leg day is plenty, in many ways....ouch....
The posted exercise lineup is a bit different than the videos. I recommend watching the videos, though. The whole thing gets a lot less intimidating, after you hear her version, and see her doing the workouts.
The exercises are demanding, and you should aim for the prescibed reps/set. (Adjust weights if in doubt...) The program will likely not work, if you skip exercises, or if you don't try to work up to at least a few reps of things like pushups. Also, it won't get you anywhere, if you try to mix-n-match this with another program. This was set for 4 weeks, and after 12 weeks straight, I can say, give it all, and it will show progress for any level of experience.
Good luck and happy lifting!
I also am doing Erin Stern's program. I'm in my 4th week and have been enjoying it. However, I did add deadlifts and leg presses to my leg day yesterday just because I enjoy them. I will be hurting today for sure. I agree this is a great program and easy to follow. I took h7463's recommendation and viewed the videos instead of relying on the website's exercise guide and this helped as they slightly vary. I'd recommend you try this program.
Hello there! Great, that you're still going strong on it!
I started again this past Monday, and today's back workout was worth all the pain... lol
Happy lifting!
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Hello, I really liked this program. I completed it twice. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/womans_lean_sexy_bible.htm
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christylynn622 wrote: »I have followed this program recently, and liked it so much, I went 3 months straight with it...and will repeat right after I get through a dumb minor knee injury...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/erin-stern-elite-body-4-week-fitness-trainer-training.html
I train at home, IMO the exercise lineup is uncomplicated, does not contain any fancy machines, has lots of solid compound lifts, and my body gets enough recovery time with the 4 day split.
The workouts have many supersets, which are not intended for the pursuit of significant PRs. You can add weight, when you feel comfortable, but you would mainly be training to failure at last set/last rep of the supersets, by chosing a lighter weight for the individual lifts.
The split strictly separates muscle groups, and 'big' whole-body lifts, like deadlifts are not part of the program. In my experience, this is to avoid exhausting too many muscle groups at one time, and it will allow sufficient recovery after the very demanding supersets.
Erin's shoulders are sort of a 'calling card', and if you like the visual of a small waist/hourglass figure you will enjoy the focus on upper body workouts. The one leg day is plenty, in many ways....ouch....
The posted exercise lineup is a bit different than the videos. I recommend watching the videos, though. The whole thing gets a lot less intimidating, after you hear her version, and see her doing the workouts.
The exercises are demanding, and you should aim for the prescibed reps/set. (Adjust weights if in doubt...) The program will likely not work, if you skip exercises, or if you don't try to work up to at least a few reps of things like pushups. Also, it won't get you anywhere, if you try to mix-n-match this with another program. This was set for 4 weeks, and after 12 weeks straight, I can say, give it all, and it will show progress for any level of experience.
Good luck and happy lifting!
I also am doing Erin Stern's program. I'm in my 4th week and have been enjoying it. However, I did add deadlifts and leg presses to my leg day yesterday just because I enjoy them. I will be hurting today for sure. I agree this is a great program and easy to follow. I took h7463's recommendation and viewed the videos instead of relying on the website's exercise guide and this helped as they slightly vary. I'd recommend you try this program.
Hello there! Great, that you're still going strong on it!
I started again this past Monday, and today's back workout was worth all the pain... lol
Happy lifting!
Hey there! Welcome back to the program! I'm going to send you a friend request, because I feel like I have several questions going through this program...and could also use someone who understands lifting! No offense will be taken if you're not looking for new friends- I'll just send you messages on my other discussion that you replied to! Thx!0 -
I do Wendler 5/3/1 on a 4 day split with hypertrophy-ish (lower weight, higher rep) accessory lifts based on what I'm training that day.0
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Hey future friend....lolchristylynn622 wrote: »christylynn622 wrote: »I have followed this program recently, and liked it so much, I went 3 months straight with it...and will repeat right after I get through a dumb minor knee injury...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/erin-stern-elite-body-4-week-fitness-trainer-training.html
I train at home, IMO the exercise lineup is uncomplicated, does not contain any fancy machines, has lots of solid compound lifts, and my body gets enough recovery time with the 4 day split.
The workouts have many supersets, which are not intended for the pursuit of significant PRs. You can add weight, when you feel comfortable, but you would mainly be training to failure at last set/last rep of the supersets, by chosing a lighter weight for the individual lifts.
The split strictly separates muscle groups, and 'big' whole-body lifts, like deadlifts are not part of the program. In my experience, this is to avoid exhausting too many muscle groups at one time, and it will allow sufficient recovery after the very demanding supersets.
Erin's shoulders are sort of a 'calling card', and if you like the visual of a small waist/hourglass figure you will enjoy the focus on upper body workouts. The one leg day is plenty, in many ways....ouch....
The posted exercise lineup is a bit different than the videos. I recommend watching the videos, though. The whole thing gets a lot less intimidating, after you hear her version, and see her doing the workouts.
The exercises are demanding, and you should aim for the prescibed reps/set. (Adjust weights if in doubt...) The program will likely not work, if you skip exercises, or if you don't try to work up to at least a few reps of things like pushups. Also, it won't get you anywhere, if you try to mix-n-match this with another program. This was set for 4 weeks, and after 12 weeks straight, I can say, give it all, and it will show progress for any level of experience.
Good luck and happy lifting!
I also am doing Erin Stern's program. I'm in my 4th week and have been enjoying it. However, I did add deadlifts and leg presses to my leg day yesterday just because I enjoy them. I will be hurting today for sure. I agree this is a great program and easy to follow. I took h7463's recommendation and viewed the videos instead of relying on the website's exercise guide and this helped as they slightly vary. I'd recommend you try this program.
Hello there! Great, that you're still going strong on it!
I started again this past Monday, and today's back workout was worth all the pain... lol
Happy lifting!
Hey there! Welcome back to the program! I'm going to send you a friend request, because I feel like I have several questions going through this program...and could also use someone who understands lifting! No offense will be taken if you're not looking for new friends- I'll just send you messages on my other discussion that you replied to! Thx!
Not sure if I 'understand' lifting, but I'll be happy to share some of my epic fails with you... That's gotta be at least as helpful!
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