doing everything right but not losing weight
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OK you people really get excited about this sort of thing. Muscle vs fat aside and all of that stuff. My problem could be calories sneaking in as pointed out - not all brands etc are the same. Example - I logged a Mcdonalds Skim Milk Latte because at the time I couldn't find just a plain home made skim milk latte from my coffee machine - so I get that it is highly possible a few calories here and there are creeping in. I STILL think however that remaining consistently quite under my allowance allows a bit of room for error and should still see a weight loss. Yes - to the Thyroid - it has crossed my mind - but I only achieve 5 hours sleep a night so I always put that down for any tiredness (actually I am quite energized 99% of the time - I start work at 3am - so I have to be). I will endeavor to become a calorie NAZI for a while and see if there is any difference. I use the same scales every two weeks at the Gym when I get a weigh in.0
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weightlossme wrote: »OK you people really get excited about this sort of thing. Muscle vs fat aside and all of that stuff. My problem could be calories sneaking in as pointed out - not all brands etc are the same. Example - I logged a Mcdonalds Skim Milk Latte because at the time I couldn't find just a plain home made skim milk latte from my coffee machine - so I get that it is highly possible a few calories here and there are creeping in. I STILL think however that remaining consistently quite under my allowance allows a bit of room for error and should still see a weight loss. Yes - to the Thyroid - it has crossed my mind - but I only achieve 5 hours sleep a night so I always put that down for any tiredness (actually I am quite energized 99% of the time - I start work at 3am - so I have to be). I will endeavor to become a calorie NAZI for a while and see if there is any difference. I use the same scales every two weeks at the Gym when I get a weigh in.
Then create your own entry for the home made latte you used, or create a recipe for it if it was made with multiple items.
Weigh your FOOD, not yourself, for consistency. Logging properly (and ideally weighing) =/= being a "calorie nazi." It = being thorough and logging properly for your goals. And yes, using generic entries and other things that I listed in my other post will very easily make your logging totally not waht your actual intake is. It's your choice to take the suggestions seriously and log properly to see if that makes a difference or not, otherwise you can continue struggling despite the super easy fixes.0 -
You are likely gaining muscle which weighs more, but is more trim and smooth- different than merely being young and thin without muscle. I do not disbelieve your records, I think they accurately describe rapid muscle gain from intense workouts while you lose weight, as you are losing cm
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SergeantSausage wrote: »AdorkableMe2015 wrote: »You are likely gaining muscle which weighs more, but is more trim and smooth- different than merely being young and thin without muscle. I do not disbelieve your records, I think they accurately describe rapid muscle gain from intense workouts while you lose weight, as you are losing cm
So let me get this straight - five pounds of muscle weighs more than five pounds of fat? Is that how physics works, ORRR do they weigh exactly the same amount regardless of their density, mass, etc?
Please stop the "muscle weighs more than fat" thinking. It's just bad math and science.
Physics has this thing ... you might have heard of it (you even mentioned it)... we call it (say it with me, will you): "Density".
You can say it, right?
"Density".
Let me help: Muscle is much more dense that fat ... which means what, kiddies? Yes, Virginia - you are correct. It means this:
for any given specific volume you care to name, in any unit volume of your choice, the same volume of both fat and muscle, the muscle is, indeed, undeniably and unquestionably heavier.
Are you done yet - pretending you didn't know that ?
Good.
Let's move on, shall we?
two things that weigh 5lbs are going to be the same weight. This holds for fat and muscle. Just because one takes up more room than the other doesn't mean it weighs more. If you look just at size, then yes one could weigh more for the same size (e.g. comparing weights for how much fat vs muscle fits in a 1L container). But to say "muscle weighs more than fat" IS semantically incorrect.
While I don't agree with the poster's tone (and he takes this tone in most threads), my reaction is similar....So what? This argument drives me insane. Yes, 5 lbs of muscles weighs the same as 5 pounds of fat...duh. Most posters assume this, and are trying to say muscle takes up less space. So if you have more muscle, you can look leaner. I will never understand why we have to take up one or two pages (or more) to argue semantics. I just don't get it. Again, duh!
Now, there are some threads where you can't tell if the poster understands this. But in the majority, it is pretty clear.
I actually don't care. Argue away. Because it is a lot of fun for those of us who mostly lurk.
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SergeantSausage wrote: »AdorkableMe2015 wrote: »You are likely gaining muscle which weighs more, but is more trim and smooth- different than merely being young and thin without muscle. I do not disbelieve your records, I think they accurately describe rapid muscle gain from intense workouts while you lose weight, as you are losing cm
So let me get this straight - five pounds of muscle weighs more than five pounds of fat? Is that how physics works, ORRR do they weigh exactly the same amount regardless of their density, mass, etc?
Please stop the "muscle weighs more than fat" thinking. It's just bad math and science.
Physics has this thing ... you might have heard of it (you even mentioned it)... we call it (say it with me, will you): "Density".
You can say it, right?
"Density".
Let me help: Muscle is much more dense that fat ... which means what, kiddies? Yes, Virginia - you are correct. It means this:
for any given specific volume you care to name, in any unit volume of your choice, the same volume of both fat and muscle, the muscle is, indeed, undeniably and unquestionably heavier.
Are you done yet - pretending you didn't know that ?
Good.
Let's move on, shall we?
two things that weigh 5lbs are going to be the same weight. This holds for fat and muscle. Just because one takes up more room than the other doesn't mean it weighs more. If you look just at size, then yes one could weigh more for the same size (e.g. comparing weights for how much fat vs muscle fits in a 1L container). But to say "muscle weighs more than fat" IS semantically incorrect.
While I don't agree with the poster's tone (and he takes this tone in most threads), my reaction is similar....So what? This argument drives me insane. Yes, 5 lbs of muscles weighs the same as 5 pounds of fat...duh. Most posters assume this, and are trying to say muscle takes up less space. So if you have more muscle, you can look leaner. I will never understand why we have to take up one or two pages (or more) to argue semantics. I just don't get it. Again, duh!
Now, there are some threads where you can't tell if the poster understands this. But in the majority, it is pretty clear.
I actually don't care. Argue away. Because it is a lot of fun for those of us who mostly lurk.
Argue semantics because the other person was a douche. I don't care if someone says "muscle weighs more than fat" because yes, I understand what they mean. But if someone's going to get douchy as this poster did then that's just idiotic, so I decided to reply.-1 -
SergeantSausage wrote: »AdorkableMe2015 wrote: »You are likely gaining muscle which weighs more, but is more trim and smooth- different than merely being young and thin without muscle. I do not disbelieve your records, I think they accurately describe rapid muscle gain from intense workouts while you lose weight, as you are losing cm
So let me get this straight - five pounds of muscle weighs more than five pounds of fat? Is that how physics works, ORRR do they weigh exactly the same amount regardless of their density, mass, etc?
Please stop the "muscle weighs more than fat" thinking. It's just bad math and science.
Physics has this thing ... you might have heard of it (you even mentioned it)... we call it (say it with me, will you): "Density".
You can say it, right?
"Density".
Let me help: Muscle is much more dense that fat ... which means what, kiddies? Yes, Virginia - you are correct. It means this:
for any given specific volume you care to name, in any unit volume of your choice, the same volume of both fat and muscle, the muscle is, indeed, undeniably and unquestionably heavier.
Are you done yet - pretending you didn't know that ?
Good.
Let's move on, shall we?
two things that weigh 5lbs are going to be the same weight. This holds for fat and muscle. Just because one takes up more room than the other doesn't mean it weighs more. If you look just at size, then yes one could weigh more for the same size (e.g. comparing weights for how much fat vs muscle fits in a 1L container). But to say "muscle weighs more than fat" IS semantically incorrect.
While I don't agree with the poster's tone (and he takes this tone in most threads), my reaction is similar....So what? This argument drives me insane. Yes, 5 lbs of muscles weighs the same as 5 pounds of fat...duh. Most posters assume this, and are trying to say muscle takes up less space. So if you have more muscle, you can look leaner. I will never understand why we have to take up one or two pages (or more) to argue semantics. I just don't get it. Again, duh!
Now, there are some threads where you can't tell if the poster understands this. But in the majority, it is pretty clear.
I actually don't care. Argue away. Because it is a lot of fun for those of us who mostly lurk.
Argue semantics because the other person was a douche. I don't care if someone says "muscle weighs more than fat" because yes, I understand what they mean. But if someone's going to get douchy as this poster did then that's just idiotic, so I decided to reply.
Actually, that I understand. Because the poster has been driving me nuts lately. And it was definitely a douchy reply.
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0somuchbetter0 wrote: »SergeantSausage wrote: »AdorkableMe2015 wrote: »You are likely gaining muscle which weighs more, but is more trim and smooth- different than merely being young and thin without muscle. I do not disbelieve your records, I think they accurately describe rapid muscle gain from intense workouts while you lose weight, as you are losing cm
So let me get this straight - five pounds of muscle weighs more than five pounds of fat? Is that how physics works, ORRR do they weigh exactly the same amount regardless of their density, mass, etc?
Please stop the "muscle weighs more than fat" thinking. It's just bad math and science.
Physics has this thing ... you might have heard of it (you even mentioned it)... we call it (say it with me, will you): "Density".
You can say it, right?
"Density".
Let me help: Muscle is much more dense that fat ... which means what, kiddies? Yes, Virginia - you are correct. It means this:
for any given specific volume you care to name, in any unit of your choice, the same volume of both fat and muscle, the muscle is, indeed, undeniably and unquestionably heavier.
Are you done yet - pretending you didn't know that ?
Good.
Let's move on, shall we?
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Charming huh!
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ALL of the "muscle vs. fat" stuff in this thread is completely beside the point. She's not doing anything that would cause her to build muscle.
OP: You're eating more than you think. Weigh solids, measure liquids, and create your own recipes. If you make a latte at home, enter the milk, coffee and sweetener you used as separate entries.0 -
If your diary is not accurate it will show on the scale. Fix your diary - use a food scale, use accurate entries, log what you actually eat rather than generic entries in the database, log everything you put in your mouth - once you get your diary in check you'll be able to see the results you want.0
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and from a thyroid issue sufferer... it wouldn't be a "oh maybe.. meh" .. if you TRULY have a problem... you know it.0
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just do clarify - my daily Gym workout means weight machines and a whole lot of squats, planks, and push ups, so I am doing something that would build muscle and yes - muscle is forming quite quickly.
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To grow new muscle, you have to be in a calorie surplus. You also have to be doing a progressive overload program. Getting stronger =/= adding muscle.weightlossme wrote: »just do clarify - my daily Gym workout means weight machines and a whole lot of squats, planks, and push ups, so I am doing something that would build muscle and yes - muscle is forming quite quickly.
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To grow new muscle, you have to be in a calorie surplus. You also have to be doing a progressive overload program. Getting stronger =/= adding muscle.weightlossme wrote: »just do clarify - my daily Gym workout means weight machines and a whole lot of squats, planks, and push ups, so I am doing something that would build muscle and yes - muscle is forming quite quickly.
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Not to mention that as a female the OP is not going to build muscle quickly, even in a caloric surplus.
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Nobody believes that until they try it. Some people have an easier time than others, just based on their genetics, but for the most part it's harder than heck for women to build muscle. We have to lift like a beast AND eat like a beast, and even then it's slooooooow.LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »
To grow new muscle, you have to be in a calorie surplus. You also have to be doing a progressive overload program. Getting stronger =/= adding muscle.weightlossme wrote: »just do clarify - my daily Gym workout means weight machines and a whole lot of squats, planks, and push ups, so I am doing something that would build muscle and yes - muscle is forming quite quickly.
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Not to mention that as a female the OP is not going to build muscle quickly, even in a caloric surplus.
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