new to iifym...how does it work?
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neanderthin wrote: »Generally people that understand and follow IIFYM correctly don't worry about refined sugar consumption because they know it needs to be a minor player in the diet
Isn't this rather contradictory? If it fits, it fits, no matter if it's candy or oatmeal. Once you start with the "good food" / "bad food" division it isn't IIFYM any longer.
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IIFYM is just a concept that doesn't demonize foods, groups of foods, and macro-nutrients. It's not a website (that website is just capitalizing on the concept)...it doesn't mean just eat junk (anyone with a respectable macro-ratio would have difficulty hitting their macros if all they ate was "junk")...it's simply a more flexible way of looking at your overall diet...having a twinkie for example isn't the end of the world when you look at it in the overall context of your diet, calories, and macros.
There is no one size fits all macro ratio either which is something that annoys the *kitten* out of me with that website. Being that the concept was born more out of the fitness industry more so than the diet industry (namely bodybuilding), one's individual macro ratio is going to be largely dependent on those fitness goals more so than weight loss goals.0 -
It's not just whether or not it fits your calorie goal -- it's whether or not it fits your macros. And in practice, most people I know who eat IIFYM don't just look at macros -- they look at some other nutritional goals as well (fiber, vitamins, whatever is important for their individual goals) and satiety. Nobody who follows and understands IIFYM says it's okay to fill your entire carb target with candy. But there's no reason to completely avoid candy.
So... IIFYM is not IIFYM but IIFYG(oals)? Or IIFYM&M (macros & micros)?
The only guy who I know that does IIFYM eats the bulk of his carbs from a bag of candy a day. It fits his macros.0 -
neanderthin wrote: »Generally people that understand and follow IIFYM correctly don't worry about refined sugar consumption because they know it needs to be a minor player in the diet
Isn't this rather contradictory? If it fits, it fits, no matter if it's candy or oatmeal. Once you start with the "good food" / "bad food" division it isn't IIFYM any longer.
No, it is about hitting calorie/micro/macro goals ...< once micro and macros are met you can fill in with whatever you please...0 -
It's not just whether or not it fits your calorie goal -- it's whether or not it fits your macros. And in practice, most people I know who eat IIFYM don't just look at macros -- they look at some other nutritional goals as well (fiber, vitamins, whatever is important for their individual goals) and satiety. Nobody who follows and understands IIFYM says it's okay to fill your entire carb target with candy. But there's no reason to completely avoid candy.
So... IIFYM is not IIFYM but IIFYG(oals)? Or IIFYM&M (macros & micros)?
The only guy who I know that does IIFYM eats the bulk of his carbs from a bag of candy a day. It fits his macros.
then he is not doing IIFYM ...
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Everyone has already made really good points, but I just want to add that YES, it absolutely does work to stop binging and overeating. As someone who has lost weight a bunch of times severely restricting and depriving myself of all "bad" foods, I would always regain (mostly all of) the weight because I would start binging non-stop after a few weeks of restriction. It made me miserable that I couldn't even have a square of chocolate because it would "ruin" my perfect day.
Since I decided to get my binging under my control, I tried IIFYM. I haven't been restricting, have been eating what I want when I want if it fit my macros. Like other people said, concentrate on the area that's harder for you (as a vegetarian I have to focus deliberately on getting protein in, but I love fat so I usually have no trouble hitting that) and once that's in, with whatever's left over, I'll indulge in whatever I want in a moderate amount. I'm really happy with this approach and I haven't had the urge to binge because I've allowed myself to have whatever I want... which, contrary to what you might think, gives you the freedom to have less than you would usually indulge in when your dieting mentality is "all or nothing" (usually, when I started dieting/restricting I would feel the urge to binge within the second day, so... it works. It really does). For an approach to weight loss that takes into account not only physical but also emotional and mental health, I've found this to be a good way to go, if not the best. (I've tried intuitive eating, but I found tracking helps immensely with knowing exactly what I'm eating).0 -
so this is what I'm taking from this..you are to eat AT LEAST what your macros say, and then if you have calories leftover you can go over? what's the best way to use IIFYM for? bulking up or losing weight?0
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I started this about a week ago and it's work planning out how to meet my macros but i am loving how I feel. I'm full of energy most of the time. I can't sit still...reminds me of... young me.0
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so this is what I'm taking from this..you are to eat AT LEAST what your macros say, and then if you have calories leftover you can go over? what's the best way to use IIFYM for? bulking up or losing weight?
Protein and fat are minimums. It can work for bulking, losing weight, or maintaining (which is what I'm doing).0 -
so this is what I'm taking from this..you are to eat AT LEAST what your macros say, and then if you have calories leftover you can go over? what's the best way to use IIFYM for? bulking up or losing weight?
If you hit your macros you will hit your calories...you will not have calories left over.0 -
what's the best way to use IIFYM for? bulking up or losing weight?
I get a little puzzled by questions like this, no offense to you @amoods05. There are several threads going on this very subject right now, and they seem to pop up every day on these boards.
I see IIFYM as more of a philosophy of eating, or honestly more of an anti-philosophy. It just means to eat whatever food you like, provided that it gives you the nutrition you need. It seems very natural to me and I guess I don't understand how it doesn't seem natural to others.
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Th3Ph03n1x wrote: »Just curious is there a way to adjust your goal for a given macro on mfp? I know you can change which ones you track.
Why, yes. I see I can change my goals here:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/my_goals
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