Food prices that piss you off
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Gluten free food is expensive0
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Wait, vegetarians eat cheese?0
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what does a happy chicken look like?
It doesn't have it's beak seared off to prevent pecking when it is jammed into a small cage with a hundred other birds with no room to take a step. It has access to run around on grass. It isn't surrounded by carcasses of birds dead from infections from living in their own filth. That sort of thing. Industrial egg farming can be pretty rough. Really, though, the thread is about food prices, not farming practices.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
So every chicken that has ever been on my dinner plate was a happy chicken. Cool!0 -
peter56765 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
So every chicken that has ever been on my dinner plate was a happy chicken. Cool!
I'm not sure dead chickens have feelings, so unless you are eating them live ....
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Grass-fed does not mean antibiotic-free.
In fact, grass-fed doesn't even preclude finishing the animal in a conventional feed lot.
I think you are wrong here. It does not mean no antibiotics, but I'm pretty sure grass fed on the label (in the US) means the cattle can only be fed mother's milk and forage during their lifetime. The forage can be from grazing or from hay or other stored forage, but it could not include corn, which is used in a convential feed lot.
Conventional feedlots also use hay, alfaalfa, etc. IE, "pasture" grasses. Grass fed does not mean pastured, in the sense people usually mean - beef can be (and is) raised in complete confinement and still qualify as grass fed.
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Sorry, the era of the auroch is over, not relevant.
The difference in fat levels between grass and feedlot fed is trivial compared to the difference between either and wild game. Nothing raised in a pasture is going to be particularly "natural".
People may as well pick based on taste and price preferences.
There is a significant difference between grass fed and grain fed if you're talking fat content. There is further difference if you talk industrial vs small producer.
Your thoughts about pastures make me think you are an urbanite.
I raise free range (really free range) heritage breed pigs. "Friends and family" use and supply a very small number of premium restaurants in the area. Make the best bacon within...a wide radius. Expanding into wider range of charcuterie this fall.
The nutritional differences are not significant - sorry.
If you don't think fat/lean mix is a nutritional difference, then that's a matter of your beliefs being held over reality.
I didn't say there was no difference - I said there was no meaningful difference.
Compare any kind of farmed pig to a wild boar - now there's a difference, nutritionally and every other way.
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I'm pretty willing to splurge on healthy food or any food item I'm having a hankering for, it's really one of my obsessions to go nuts on my health. BUT, Coconut butter and almond butter--top notch quality, are ridiculous. I priced an 8 oz jar of coconut butter at like almost 14$ !!!!!!!! I grind my own almond butter at Whole Foods for about $8. Nuts in general are pretty pricey. Ok, rant over0
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Well no, you're just describing a chicken under less stress. That's not a matter of happiness.what does a happy chicken look like?
It doesn't have it's beak seared off to prevent pecking when it is jammed into a small cage with a hundred other birds with no room to take a step. It has access to run around on grass. It isn't surrounded by carcasses of birds dead from infections from living in their own filth. That sort of thing. Industrial egg farming can be pretty rough. Really, though, the thread is about food prices, not farming practices.
hm, ok. Is that like legit vegetarians are cool with it, or is this a pogue thing, like the "vegetarians" that only avoid mammal flesh?
My neighbors have some chickens, end up in my yard often enough. I'd probably snap its neck if it tried to peck me in the eye.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Sorry, the era of the auroch is over, not relevant.
The difference in fat levels between grass and feedlot fed is trivial compared to the difference between either and wild game. Nothing raised in a pasture is going to be particularly "natural".
People may as well pick based on taste and price preferences.
There is a significant difference between grass fed and grain fed if you're talking fat content. There is further difference if you talk industrial vs small producer.
Your thoughts about pastures make me think you are an urbanite.
I raise free range (really free range) heritage breed pigs. "Friends and family" use and supply a very small number of premium restaurants in the area. Make the best bacon within...a wide radius. Expanding into wider range of charcuterie this fall.
The nutritional differences are not significant - sorry.
If you don't think fat/lean mix is a nutritional difference, then that's a matter of your beliefs being held over reality.
I didn't say there was no difference - I said there was no meaningful difference.
Compare any kind of farmed pig to a wild boar - now there's a difference, nutritionally and every other way.
So now we're comparing conventional husbandry and breeding to wild ferals and russian imports? I would offer this bit of friendly advice, based on a wasted project of mine, do not make prosciutto or a country ham from a feral/wild boar. It's straight wasted effort.0 -
ambermertens wrote: »I'm pretty willing to splurge on healthy food or any food item I'm having a hankering for, it's really one of my obsessions to go nuts on my health. BUT, Coconut butter and almond butter--top notch quality, are ridiculous. I priced an 8 oz jar of coconut butter at like almost 14$ !!!!!!!! I grind my own almond butter at Whole Foods for about $8. Nuts in general are pretty pricey. Ok, rant over
costco, trader joes. both bomber for great prices on coconut oil.0 -
I was at the store at lunch and a small tub of fresh green peas (already shelled) was $8.99. Whaaaaaaat?!0
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Trader Joes, those are 3.990
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*sob* we don't have Trader Joes...0
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That's a true bummer.0
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I work in a grocery store so I try and get fruits and vegetables when they are on sale, otherwise most are out of my price range
I love Blackberries and grapes but they are usually around 6-7 bucks each, oranges are usually about $1.50 each too. Most of the time its a choice between buying lots of health food or paying my bills 
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Organic strawberries this time of year. Also the nice peanut butter. I used to think it was expensive @ 5 bucks a jar. I can't find it under 7 now.0
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Some fresh fruits; honeycrisp apples and Thompson green grapes come to mind. The apples were $3.79 per pound and the grapes were $3.99 per pound. That's simply nuts.0
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Ground turkey. $4 for 16-20oz. Maybe I'm cheap. Canned black beans 'cause ain't nobody got time for the bags - $1.50~ for ONE can. Meanwhile Ravioli goes 10/$10 lol. Cold cuts! Unless you buy the sh*tty cheap economy cold cuts, $5-6 for the regular high sodium crap, and $7 plus for the less sodium crap.
I'm actually trying to figure out where/if I can buy Boar's Head deli meats with lower sodium. They're the lowest I've found but I have no idea where to get them.
Pomegranates were like $2 each last time I saw 'em, but I think that's when they were out of season.0 -
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$2.99 for a head of iceburg AND it's crazy small. Used to be .99 or a lil over $1.00 at the most.
$1.99 for celery as opposed to $.77. Cherry tomatoes are ridiculous to except when on sale. Even bananas have gone up. They were $.57 and now $.69.
I feel like babybel has gone up as well, but i only buy sometimes so not sure, but it felt more expensive.
PURE JUICES are 2x as expensive as their "Punch/Medley" versions.
Whole oats are now MORE expensive than the processed packets in grocery stores, but still a good price at the bulk store.
Natural whole almonds are $4.99/lb, up from $3.99/lb
Berries are pricey except for one store where I can usually get them 2 for $3. The downfall is they are delicioous the first couple days, but then go bad quicker. We just have to use em up fast. Otherwise we pay a premium price elsewhere or buy frozen (which is only good for smoothies really)
Asparagus is ALWAYS expensive except in season and I love asparagus but refuse to buy except in season
My weekly bill has almost doubled since i started making and buying healthier foods. Thankfully we can afford it, but I really feel for those who can't and feel we shouldn't have to pay a premium for healthy choices.
Can't wait until spring/summer when local produce is plentiful (and delicious)
ETA: YES Greek Yogurt is so much more expensive than regular. I stock up when Oikos goes on sale!0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Grass-fed does not mean antibiotic-free.
In fact, grass-fed doesn't even preclude finishing the animal in a conventional feed lot.
I think you are wrong here. It does not mean no antibiotics, but I'm pretty sure grass fed on the label (in the US) means the cattle can only be fed mother's milk and forage during their lifetime. The forage can be from grazing or from hay or other stored forage, but it could not include corn, which is used in a convential feed lot.
Conventional feedlots also use hay, alfaalfa, etc. IE, "pasture" grasses. Grass fed does not mean pastured, in the sense people usually mean - beef can be (and is) raised in complete confinement and still qualify as grass fed.
I know what the label means (I linked the definition). I still I doubt there is any grass fed beef finished on a conventional feed lot. I'd have to see some proof. Otherwise we are at an 'agree to disagree' standstill.0 -
I'm still annoyed at the outrageous price of cauliflower... $2.99 or $3.99 for a tiny head. I love the stuff!0
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My neighbors have some chickens, end up in my yard often enough. I'd probably snap its neck if it tried to peck me in the eye.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
I have chickens. A mad hen is not something to mess with (ever heard the term 'mad as a wet hen'?). A mad rooster is even worse. Best to keep the birds happy or keep your distance.0 -
I hunt birds, and I have a bird cone attached to my garage.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
My neighbors have some chickens, end up in my yard often enough. I'd probably snap its neck if it tried to peck me in the eye.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
I have chickens. A mad hen is not something to mess with (ever heard the term 'mad as a wet hen'?). A mad rooster is even worse. Best to keep the birds happy or keep your distance.
However, in all my days, I've not heard that saying, it's funny.
Now I've been told wild turkeys are like the wu tang clan. I'm prone to agree.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Grass-fed does not mean antibiotic-free.
In fact, grass-fed doesn't even preclude finishing the animal in a conventional feed lot.
I think you are wrong here. It does not mean no antibiotics, but I'm pretty sure grass fed on the label (in the US) means the cattle can only be fed mother's milk and forage during their lifetime. The forage can be from grazing or from hay or other stored forage, but it could not include corn, which is used in a convential feed lot.
Conventional feedlots also use hay, alfaalfa, etc. IE, "pasture" grasses. Grass fed does not mean pastured, in the sense people usually mean - beef can be (and is) raised in complete confinement and still qualify as grass fed.
I know what the label means (I linked the definition). I still I doubt there is any grass fed beef finished on a conventional feed lot. I'd have to see some proof. Otherwise we are at an 'agree to disagree' standstill.
Yup, you're not going to find "grass finished" coming from a conventional feed lot. Feed lots exist to pack on mass amounts of fat. (Far more than the claimed, trivial differences.) you don't do that with grass, you do that with grain.
Just like with us.0 -
90 calorie granola bars...
Why even bother? Regular granola bars are only 100 calories and come 10 to a box. 90 calorie granola bars cost more and come 8 to a box. Dumbest thing I ever saw.0 -
Asparagus $4.99/lb
Siggi's Greek yogurt $1.79 per tiny container
Blueberries were $8.99 the other week
Salmon anywhere from $13.99-$17.99/lb
Avocados $1.79 each
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Tomatoes. They're not worth eating in Winter anyway, they're bland hothouse tomatoes until Summer around here. But when Summer does come the prices make me cry.0
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