Want to Do Couch2 5 K...But Don't Think I Can

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I fell off the MFP wagon and I'm trying to get back on now. My workplace has recently instituted a new fitness policy where we can have an hour three times a week to exercise, so I really want to use this as motivation to do a C25K. The problem? I've tried it twice before in the last 5 years, and failed. Classic cases of "too much, too soon".

But the real problem is that even at the peak of my life in high school (toned, muscular, thin, and a second degree black belt), I never had any cardiovascular endurance. I have never run a mile in less than 22 minutes. I have severe asthma, but I also think I have vocal cord dysfunction that makes me unable to breathe normally when exercising. I started to get it checked out a few years back, but ended up having a baby with some major problems that requires a ton of medical visits, and with working full time as well...I just sort of put myself on the back burner. But routine physicals always show normal cholesterol, normal pulse, heart rate, etc so I know I'm "okay" physically except for being 60 lbs overweight.

ANYWAYS, I can't even walk briskly for 30 seconds without feeling like a hammer is on my throat and chest. So how do I begin running (or even jogging) for one minute and then walking for 3? Should my routine look more like "walk fast for one minute and then walk normal for 3"? How can I try not to get discouraged when it takes me 3 months just to get up to where a "normal" person would start?
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  • cheshirecatastrophe
    cheshirecatastrophe Posts: 1,395 Member
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    Do you have time and insurance now to get the throat/lung issues checked out? I would definitely start there to see if there is anything that could help, first. Especially with the asthma.

    I think doing slow/fast walking intervals is a *great* place to start! Walking fast is actually really good exercise. At a certain speed, in fact (around a 12:30 min/mile) maintaining a walk is *harder* exercise than running. :)

    Normal...what is normal? Everyone is different. My dad can't run 50 yards and I run marathons, but we are long-distance bike buddies and compete with parallel routes on Strava. He usually wins. My mom can't run 2 steps, but she walks a 13:30 mile like she's got a latte in one hand and a parasol in the other.

    And I definitely wouldn't put any time limits on yourself. One thing that comes up over and over here, is how many people repeat Week 1 or Week 2 over and over and over and over.

    Oh, and for what it's worth...in elementary school, I was the kid who couldn't run a mile, and now I run marathons.

    I hope your child is doing better these days. :)
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    edited February 2015
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    You don't have to run to lose weight. Instead of making excuses find another activity that isn't affected by your asthma
  • gwensoul
    gwensoul Posts: 87 Member
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    Walking is great. I have also found the offcial c25k program jumps a little to fast for my liking. I did the Zombies,run one and it is much more gradual and works in stretches and other exercises.
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
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    The biggest thing to remember is to run slow. Don't worry about your speed (that comes in time) you may even be running slower than you walk. Take your time and repeat weeks if you need to. 2 years ago I was 333 pounds and couldn't walk up the road without being out of breath. I am now 141 pounds lighter and at present training for a 50 mile Ultra. So it can be done. I don't say you need to do an ultra but I'm of the opinion if you don't have a disability or illness and you do it right there is no reason why no one can run 5k
  • kshadows
    kshadows Posts: 1,315 Member
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    You can. Trust me. I could barely WALK 1 mile when I was in high school. I started c25K at 23 years old after 2 babies and I never thought I'd be able to do it. My current long run record is 7 miles. You absolutely can do it. No excuses, get out and go slow.
  • PositivelyFlawed
    PositivelyFlawed Posts: 316 Member
    edited February 2015
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    I felt similar, but then I came to t he conclusion that i was making excuses. I too have fairly severe asthma, but if i am diligent with my meds it can be controlled. I am 292 lbs and am about to start c25k on Monday after a week or so of walking intervals. After seeing how i did walking i feel i'm ready to kick it up a notch.

    I also plan to take double the time on each stage. I have built this into my overall plan so i don't get discourage. If it doesn't take 2 weeks per stage, great! But if it does i know i can tell myself it was what i expected.

    5k is 5k no matter how long it takes you to get'er done!

    As an aside and a bit of a disclaimer, you may want a full physical and medical clearance before you start, just to be safe!

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  • GreatCthulhu
    GreatCthulhu Posts: 93 Member
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    I think you should get medical advice before starting, but if it is something you really want tl do then I recommend you give it a really good go. Even if it takes longer than you thought. Take it slow and do the best YOU can do. No point in comparing to other people, each person has their own battle. I did the C25K last year and it was a struggle but sticking at it and seeing my progress really helped me mentally. I am now planning a half marathon in May. Good luck!
  • lastspen
    lastspen Posts: 106 Member
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    I agree with the previous responses. You are giving up before you even start. If you have difficulty finishing any of the weeks then repeat them until you complete them. Being healthy is not about following anyone else's schedule and it's not a competition...unless you're a bodybuilder or something. Lol. Anyways, do it at your own pace because you're doing it for your health.

    I started with Zombie Run C25K, which is slower than the typical C25K. I'm not ready to go out and do a full race but I will be soon and I have way more than 60 pounds to lose. You can do it!
  • dpwellman
    dpwellman Posts: 3,271 Member
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    I had fairly severe asthma once. Put me in hospital overnight at 18. Always a problem (especially with cool, dry air). Fast forward 20 years. 283 lbs. Started running. No more asthma. Not even at -10F
  • Wiseandcurious
    Wiseandcurious Posts: 730 Member
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    DavPul wrote: »
    You don't have to run to lose weight. Instead of making excuses find another activity that isn't affected by your asthma

    Even after you edited it, that statement about excuses strikes me as extremely short-sighted. I don't see anyone making excuses. I see a strong woman who juggles responsibilities on her shoulders that many of us would crumble under *and* she is looking for ways to overcome her setbacks. Kudos to her!

    OP, your plan of alternating brisk walking with slow sounds like a good place to start, but above all do get your throat and lung conditions checked out. It is possible to exercise with a health condition but it would be much safer and more effective if you know exactly what you have to contend with and watch out for. Especially since you're talking of an unconfirmed diagnose for the throat.

    You can put yourself on the back burner only for so long before it affects your loved ones too so for them as much as for yourself, I d'go have it checked out.
  • brightsideofpink
    brightsideofpink Posts: 1,018 Member
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    You really should see a doctor before you begin any sort of plan, and get this figured out. If it truly is the asthma that is causing you to have such difficulty after 30 seconds, that is no small thing. Real asthma attacks are no joke and can be fatal. A specialist can help you assess your threat level and put you a course of action, likely to include meds. That said, strenuous exercise while being overweight can often feel the same. Only 9 months ago, I felt like I was gasping for oxygen after a 30 second run. Now I run 30 minutes at a time. You need a better assessment of the problem before you can identify the solution.
  • cheshirecatastrophe
    cheshirecatastrophe Posts: 1,395 Member
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    I don't think she's giving up or making excuses, I think she's looking for a way NOT to give up...
  • sapphire1166
    sapphire1166 Posts: 114 Member
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    Thanks everyone! As a background, I was diagnosed with asthma at age 6 and have been hospitalized 7 different times in my life for it (most recent being 6 years ago). I am currently on 3 asthma maintenance medications daily in addition to a "rescue" inhaler and my asthma is well controlled (for the time being!).

    I've always had the issue with the "hammer on my throat/chest" since childhood. I finally started to get seen for it and was seen by an asthma specialist, who referred me to a pulmonologist, who referred me to an ENT, who wanted to do a 2 hour exercise-induced stress test thing...and I got sick of it and just didn't go. My daughter has weekly PT, weekly feeding therapy, monthly hospital assessments, monthly orthopedic appointments, etc. So taking MORE time off work for an issue I've had since childhood fell on the back burner.

    But I will be getting a medical clearance signed by my doctor before I start. One of the conditions of the program.

    I agree with others that I am sort of psyching myself out before I get started, and I need to get over that mental hurdle. I'm going to resign myself that ANY body movement is better than the zero I've got going on right now and just try to be content with the fact that walking fast might suffice as my "running" until I can build my endurance up, however long that takes.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
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    I don't think she's giving up or making excuses, I think she's looking for a way NOT to give up...
    Even after you edited it, that statement about excuses strikes me as extremely short-sighted. I don't see anyone making excuses. I see a strong woman who juggles responsibilities on her shoulders that many of us would crumble under *and* she is looking for ways to overcome her setbacks. Kudos to her!

    If she has asthma so severe that it feels like a crushing weight and it's causing her physical pain, the proper course of action is to give up the activity that hurts you that badly. NOT giving up is foolish, IMO. Same if you have a blown out knee that prevents you from running, same as if you have a jacked up spine that prevents you from deadlifting. Just because you people have a negative association with the phrase "give up" doesn't mean it isn't the wise choice.

    It's not "no pain, no gain", it's " no pain, no pain". She's not a the football team. Instead of pushing thru an activity that hurts, is possibly dangerous to her, and will most likely end in frustration, she can find an activity where the chance of enjoyment, success, and sustainment are much higher.

    If suggestion that makes me the bad guy, whatever. Flag my post and hide it so can keep advising here to hurt herself.
  • DawnieB1977
    DawnieB1977 Posts: 4,248 Member
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    I'd definitely get checked out before you start, but I'm sure you CAN run. Just start slow.

    I always thought I couldn't run and then I just started doing intervals on the treadmill. Then when I'd just had my third baby my friend convinced me to sign up to do a 5K colour run, so I did. So, I managed the 5K at 4 months post partum with no real training done beforehand. I alternated running and walking. Since then I've managed to do 5k without stopping. I think it's a mental thing...your head tells you you can't run. I don't have that mental block with any other exercise.
  • shmulyeng
    shmulyeng Posts: 472 Member
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    I would suggest not to start with C25K. When I started, I was in no shape to run even 1 block. I actually once ran a block and thought I was dying. I started with simply walking. My goal was to walk for 30 minutes. I mapped out a route from work that took me 30 minutes and walked home every day. I pushed myself to walk faster and harder every day. My original plan was to start running after 3 months. About 8 weeks after I started, the music I was listening to just got me to try running for short distances. At first I was running about 5 times per session for about 30 seconds each. Over a couple of weeks that slowly increased. That's when I started C25K. I ended up skipping a couple of weeks of the program. Now, about a year later, I run anywhere from 3 to 10 miles on a regular basis and have done a half marathon once.

    Bottom line, you have to push yourself every day but it should be just a bit more than the day before. Don't set goals of pace or distance until you're ready.

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  • sapphire1166
    sapphire1166 Posts: 114 Member
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    If she has asthma so severe that it feels like a crushing weight and it's causing her physical pain, the proper course of action is to give up the activity that hurts you that badly.

    The pain that I feel is not normal asthma pain/wheezing. My problem is that I have avoided any cardiovascular activity for my entire life. When I was young and my metabolism was high and I was doing martial arts I was still relatively in shape. Now, I am SO out of shape and find myself winded after chasing my toddler up the stairs. I know I need to work on my cardiovascular endurance.
  • minimum13
    minimum13 Posts: 17 Member
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    Have you considered talking to your health professional about this? Perhaps the 5k run isn't going to be the sport for you, or perhaps its very achievable if you just go about it the right way - and thats going to depend very much on your asthma and other restrictions you may have. The hardest thing in the world is self-motivation and it sounds as though you have a few issues there which are making that an even weightier problem. If the 5K isn't for you, don't be disheartened just try to look at the reasons why and consider other exercises you could do. Even starting with a 'normal' walk, building up to a brisk walk over a few sessions before you even try to jog for a short interval might help... but as I said, its worth talking to your health professional, someone who understands your condition and its limitations before you decide to embark on something.

    And - hats off to you! Well done for getting on here and asking for advice, its a small step in the right direction and its one you can build on.
  • silentKayak
    silentKayak Posts: 658 Member
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    I feel like we don't really change that much over time. Whatever you liked in high school, that's probably what you'll like now.

    My suggestion is, why not take one issue at a time? Work on the weight issues first (calorie counting, walking, strength training). And consider getting back into martial arts - ask your local dojo about programs for adults. Then consider what you want to do about your cardiovascular endurance given that you have asthma.

    There's nothing magic about running. Maybe it's not the right sport for you. But I guarantee that just losing weight will help you get through your day better.
  • minimum13
    minimum13 Posts: 17 Member
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    Have you considered talking to your health professional about this? Perhaps the 5k run isn't going to be the sport for you, or perhaps its very achievable if you just go about it the right way - and thats going to depend very much on your asthma and other restrictions you may have. The hardest thing in the world is self-motivation and it sounds as though you have a few issues there which are making that an even weightier problem. If the 5K isn't for you, don't be disheartened just try to look at the reasons why and consider other exercises you could do. Even starting with a 'normal' walk, building up to a brisk walk over a few sessions before you even try to jog for a short interval might help... but as I said, its worth talking to your health professional, someone who understands your condition and its limitations before you decide to embark on something.

    And - hats off to you! Well done for getting on here and asking for advice, its a small step in the right direction and its one you can build on.