5x5 Ice Cream
iandrew124
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Alright so I've heard good things about the 5x5 ice cream , actually, amazing things!
I'm just wondering if I should wait to do this program or just Start it because I just started doing cardio with some weights a week and a half ago. Any suggestions? o:
Thank you for taking the time to read c:
I'm just wondering if I should wait to do this program or just Start it because I just started doing cardio with some weights a week and a half ago. Any suggestions? o:
Thank you for taking the time to read c:
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Too much iso stuff for a beginner in Ice Cream 5x5 in my opinion. Stronglifts is the better option as long as you throw in some lat pull downs or pull ups into the work out.0
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iandrew124 wrote: »I'm just wondering if I should wait to do this program
What exactly would you be waiting for? Just get to the gym, grab a bar and get going, m'kay?0 -
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amyrebeccah wrote: »What kind of weight training experience do you have? Do you have barbell equipment available?
I have barbell stuff at home.0 -
iandrew124 wrote: »
I believe he is saying that Ice Cream 5x5 has too many isolation exercises for a beginner, and that its more effective for a beginner to focus on the main big moves: squat, dead lift, bench press, overhead press, rows or cleans.
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The main complaint I hear about ICF is that once you start getting into higher weights 1.5-2 hours is not uncommon. ICF is largely the same as SL but with added iso work more focused on bodybuilding. Hey, if I had 2 hours three mornings a week I might try that instead of SL.0
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boxingwoman wrote: »iandrew124 wrote: »
I believe he is saying that Ice Cream 5x5 has too many isolation exercises for a beginner, and that its more effective for a beginner to focus on the main big moves: squat, dead lift, bench press, overhead press, rows or cleans.
Oh! Thanks for clearing that up.0 -
jenglish712 wrote: »The main complaint I hear about ICF is that once you start getting into higher weights 1.5-2 hours is not uncommon. ICF is largely the same as SL but with added iso work more focused on bodybuilding. Hey, if I had 2 hours three mornings a week I might try that instead of SL.
Oh, okay I see your point. In that, is there any programs that are for cutting weight instead of body building?
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iandrew124 wrote: »
Oh, okay I see your point. In that, is there any programs that are for cutting weight instead of body building?
Calorie defecit causes weight loss. Weightlifting really burns relatively few. But lifting helps you keep muscle while you lose fat. Because ultimately when people say they want to lose weight they typically mean fat.
I do Stronglifts on a defecit with 3x5 but still throw in some supinate grip chinups and dips on the day I don't do Deadlift. There are many workout regimens out there but since this is the only one I have done it is the only one I can speak much of. I can tell you it works but that is not saying there are not others that might not fit your needs as well.
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jenglish712 wrote: »The main complaint I hear about ICF is that once you start getting into higher weights 1.5-2 hours is not uncommon. ICF is largely the same as SL but with added iso work more focused on bodybuilding. Hey, if I had 2 hours three mornings a week I might try that instead of SL.
Oh man, to have my workout as short as 1.5-2 hours. That would be crazy, I could get an hour of my life back every day.0 -
Too much iso stuff for a beginner in Ice Cream 5x5 in my opinion. Stronglifts is the better option as long as you throw in some lat pull downs or pull ups into the work out.
I have to kind of agree with that. Even though ICF was the first actual program I ran I did spend at least a year doing bro splits because I thought that way the right way so I did have a lot more strength when I got to ICF. For a absolutely new lifter it might be to much (might) and Stronglifts or Starting strength might be better.
Also, if you fall into this category, read the link
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/training-the-obese-beginner.html/
Yeah, I see your guys point about ICF. Well I'll keep researching then for a program that is more better for beginners
Thank you for the link and your response. c:
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jenglish712 wrote: »The main complaint I hear about ICF is that once you start getting into higher weights 1.5-2 hours is not uncommon. ICF is largely the same as SL but with added iso work more focused on bodybuilding. Hey, if I had 2 hours three mornings a week I might try that instead of SL.
Oh man, to have my workout as short as 1.5-2 hours. That would be crazy, I could get an hour of my life back every day.
Dang, you spend 3 hours? o:0 -
Ice Cream 5x5 is just Stronglifts with a few isolation lifts tacked on the end. I would not do ICF on a cut, unless you want to adjust the volume down (maybe do it 3x5). If you want a simpler beginner program, just do Stronglifts, or Starting Strength.0
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iandrew124 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »The main complaint I hear about ICF is that once you start getting into higher weights 1.5-2 hours is not uncommon. ICF is largely the same as SL but with added iso work more focused on bodybuilding. Hey, if I had 2 hours three mornings a week I might try that instead of SL.
Oh man, to have my workout as short as 1.5-2 hours. That would be crazy, I could get an hour of my life back every day.
Dang, you spend 3 hours? o:
I do 4 hours
5 hours on Thursdays
I'm always careful not to overdo it. My workout is very varied.0 -
Ice Cream 5x5 is just Stronglifts with a few isolation lifts tacked on the end. I would not do ICF on a cut, unless you want to adjust the volume down (maybe do it 3x5). If you want a simpler beginner program, just do Stronglifts, or Starting Strength.
Hmm, alright, sounds good o:
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iandrew124 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »The main complaint I hear about ICF is that once you start getting into higher weights 1.5-2 hours is not uncommon. ICF is largely the same as SL but with added iso work more focused on bodybuilding. Hey, if I had 2 hours three mornings a week I might try that instead of SL.
Oh man, to have my workout as short as 1.5-2 hours. That would be crazy, I could get an hour of my life back every day.
Dang, you spend 3 hours? o:
I do 4 hours
5 hours on Thursdays
I'm always careful not to overdo it. My workout is very varied.
I think that's too much.0 -
iandrew124 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »The main complaint I hear about ICF is that once you start getting into higher weights 1.5-2 hours is not uncommon. ICF is largely the same as SL but with added iso work more focused on bodybuilding. Hey, if I had 2 hours three mornings a week I might try that instead of SL.
Oh man, to have my workout as short as 1.5-2 hours. That would be crazy, I could get an hour of my life back every day.
Dang, you spend 3 hours? o:
I do 4 hours
5 hours on Thursdays
I'm always careful not to overdo it. My workout is very varied.
You do 4-5 hours of what?0 -
Too much iso stuff for a beginner in Ice Cream 5x5 in my opinion. Stronglifts is the better option as long as you throw in some lat pull downs or pull ups into the work out.
Are you talking the novice program? I don't see many iso's in it muscleandstrength.com/workouts/jason-blaha-ice-cream-fitness-5x5-novice-workout.
I would agree, however, that SL or SS would be better for an absolute beginner.0 -
I clicked on this thinking it was about eating ice cream 5 times a day! ! Good luck guys x0
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iandrew124 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »The main complaint I hear about ICF is that once you start getting into higher weights 1.5-2 hours is not uncommon. ICF is largely the same as SL but with added iso work more focused on bodybuilding. Hey, if I had 2 hours three mornings a week I might try that instead of SL.
Oh man, to have my workout as short as 1.5-2 hours. That would be crazy, I could get an hour of my life back every day.
Dang, you spend 3 hours? o:
2.5-3 is typical depending on the day. This includes warm-up and cooldown and mobility work and all that too.0 -
iandrew124 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »The main complaint I hear about ICF is that once you start getting into higher weights 1.5-2 hours is not uncommon. ICF is largely the same as SL but with added iso work more focused on bodybuilding. Hey, if I had 2 hours three mornings a week I might try that instead of SL.
Oh man, to have my workout as short as 1.5-2 hours. That would be crazy, I could get an hour of my life back every day.
Dang, you spend 3 hours? o:
I do 4 hours
5 hours on Thursdays
I'm always careful not to overdo it. My workout is very varied.
Aren't you the one who did 500 squats the other day? Our definitions of "varied" may...vary.0 -
The cutting version of ICF is 3 X 5 on the compounds, 2 X 8 on the isolation work. I'm thinking about switching over to ICF from SL.Ice Cream 5x5 is just Stronglifts with a few isolation lifts tacked on the end. I would not do ICF on a cut, unless you want to adjust the volume down (maybe do it 3x5). If you want a simpler beginner program, just do Stronglifts, or Starting Strength.
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