Newbie at the gym
stevesgirl824
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I just joined the gym today and I'm a newbie. I want to focus more on strength than cardio. I don't have the extra cash for a trainer, so I'm trying to come up with workouts on my own. I'm 34, obese (60-70 lbs overweight), and I have a bad knee. Today I did 2 sets of 8 reps on the bicep curl and chest press machines, after I spent 30 minutes on the elliptical. I could have done more, but was a little overwhelmed with all those weight machines. Tomorrow I plan to do strength first. I feel like I need a game plan or exercise schedule. How do you come up with your work out schedule or gym routine? Thank you, in advance.
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I am surprised your gym didn't offer a free session to show you the machines. Maybe call them and ask. Most gyms will do that.0
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Yes, I agree... my gym did a session with a trainer for free to do just that.0
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Ditto. Don't be afraid to push them a bit for intoductory services. It's part of what you're paying for.0
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Yes, do the free gym session thing. Also, there are a TON of free websites that show you how to do things. Here's a great link to Mayo clinic's collection: http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/fitness/in-depth/strength-training/art-200460310
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Look up StrongLifts 5x5 -- they have videos to show you the lifts as well as a lot of good information.0
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Even in gyms that don't have trainers, the staff WILL walk you around the machines and demonstrate use. So that's a resource, as JillMarie above said.
I'm enjoying "The New Rules of Lifting for Women," which is a progressive heavy lifting program. But I admit I had qualms about my knees at the beginning. I am a bunch older than you too, so I've gone pretty gently and so far so good. That program is unfortunately available only as a book which costs a little cash.
Use your internet too - I have no trainer, but have had good luck searching for videos on form for certain exercises.
That said, cardio burns calories and if getting your weight down is a priority, you might want to consider a higher mix of cardio for a while - just because weight down equals pressure off knees and more freedom to do certain strength exercises.
Good luck, I was new to the weight room last month and was pretty self-conscious the first few times. But now it feels totally okay to be in there, the sole gray haired woman lifting teeny weights lol! You can do this!!0 -
Thank you so much for all of your suggestions and ideas!!
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Today I did about 5 different leg machines and then I did the ellipitical (weight loss interval) for 35 minutes. I feel great! I think I will ask about the intro, just so I dont feel so overwhelmed in that section of the gym.0
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After years of doing nothing, I started back at my Y last March and got hooked. The first couple weeks I was embarrassed due to my weight, "inexperience" and wore old baggy sweatshirts to hide under. I started slow with cardio only at first and increased a little each time. I then began experimenting with different weight training exercises - machines, cable machines, curl bar, body weight exercises (did a ton of body squats in the sauna) then tried free weights.
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Look at others at your gym for tips, search the internet, etc and find something that works for you - and increase a little each session, week, month, etc.
Look for other things to keep you motivated - new gym outfit, new shoes, new songs on the ipod, etc0 -
Wookinpanub wrote: »After years of doing nothing, I started back at my Y last March and got hooked. The first couple weeks I was embarrassed due to my weight, "inexperience" and wore old baggy sweatshirts to hide under. I started slow with cardio only at first and increased a little each time. I then began experimenting with different weight training exercises - machines, cable machines, curl bar, body weight exercises (did a ton of body squats in the sauna) then tried free weights.
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Look at others at your gym for tips, search the internet, etc and find something that works for you - and increase a little each session, week, month, etc.
Look for other things to keep you motivated - new gym outfit, new shoes, new songs on the ipod, etc
Thank you for the awesome tips!!
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No problem...just give it time and it will pay off.0
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Download the Jefit app on your phone. It has alot of great routines with videos showing form for each move. It really helped me alot when I first started at the gym. Good luck0
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Starting strength
Strong lifts
New Rules of Lifting
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_getting_lean_ wrote: »Ditto. Don't be afraid to push them a bit for intoductory services. It's part of what you're paying for.
100% agree.
they all have a duty of care to ensure you know what you are doing and working out safely.
my gym orientation including a medical check up,90 min of instructor showing how to use equipment and getting me on each piece too.
ended with a personalised programme that is reviewed with medical every 3 months.
all part of the service.
utilise as much as you can.
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Go to your library and take out books on weight lifting. Don't worry if information in one book goes against the information in another book. There are thousands of programs and most will work IF you stick with them and are consistent.
Also, pending on what is the problem with your knee, take out the trigger point therapy handbook while you are at the library.0 -
There are lots of resources out there, I highly recommend "Strength Training for Women" by Lori Incledon. A great resource that goes from beginner to advanced. You can get it on Amazon, comes in kindle edition now too.
I used it in the beginning of my 'journey' and still refer to it from time to time.0 -
A trainer is great if you can afford it but not necessary to get a good program going. Lots of free resources online to find a program to follow and learn how to properly lift. Try bodybuilding.com. I do Stronglifts 5x5 because its simple, has a free phone app and you only have to learn 5 lifts but that is certainly not the only program out there. Do some research and find one you think you would be able to do and stick to.0
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Pinterest is great for finding combinations of exercises to put together. I started using the machines at first because they are designed to help you maintain decent form. After awhile I switched to free weights because I can control the weight better and I feel like I get a better workout.
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Agreed, Pinterest has some great workouts. I use them a lot when I have to travel for work. I would also check with your gym to see if there is someone that can show you the ropes.0
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Does your gym have classes? If so, see if they have Body Pump on the schedule. It's not a class I personally take, but it will teach you tons of lifts (with good form, if you have a good instructor) using barbells. Then you can use those skills as a basis for moving onto the barbells in the weight room with a program like Starting Strength or Stronglifts.
A lot of people really like New Rules of Lifting for Women too.0 -
brightresolve wrote: »That said, cardio burns calories and if getting your weight down is a priority, you might want to consider a higher mix of cardio for a while - just because weight down equals pressure off knees and more freedom to do certain strength exercises.
Just as an opposing viewpoint - I starting lifting weights when I weighed more than 300 pounds. I lifted religiously three hours a week, with cardio 90-120 minutes a week. If I skipped a session, it was cardio, never weights.
I lost weight crazy steadily and - bonus! - I kept a good deal of muscle.
Now, 130 pounds of excess weight gone, I'm 2.5 years into maintaining. I'm so so so glad I had a trainer at the beginning who steered me away from cardio and into weights. I got hooked on lifting, I really like how my body looks, I'm strong and confident, and I maintain with minimal effort.
Cardio definitely has a place when you have a lot of weight to lose, but don't underestimate the calorie-torching effect of heavy weight lifting.
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I've gone to Bodypump with about 4 different instructors and while I think the class is a fun workout, I would not rely on it to teach good form. Maybe there are amazing instructors out there but the judging from the classes I went to, most are not going to correct you unless you do something crazy wrong. It's just not possible to look at everyone and have time to correct everybody in a 35 people class while you are leading a class. Plus lifting 20 lbs for 100 reps is just not the same as lifting 80 for 5. You will have to learn a lot more technique if you are lifting heavy.0
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This is how I approached it when I started doing the same thing - This was with the help of my trainer. It worked for me, take it with a grain of salt, and know I am no expert. I was like you, I am in my late 30's and considered obese.
When I do strength training, I work in groups.
Day 1 - Legs
Day 2 - Back, Biceps, and Abs
Day 3 - Chest, Shoulder and Triceps
When I just started, like day one, I did one exercise for each area. This means on Legs, I may have done only lunges. On Back, Biceps, and Abs I would do pulldowns, running curls, and crunches. I would do each group, one day a week, over a week (3 day commitment) after a 20 min cardio workout (like treadmill or elliptical).
If I did work in sets and reps it was a progression:
3 Sets of 10 reps, if I was comfortable move to ...
3 Sets of 12 reps, if I was comfortable move to ...
3 sets of 15 reps, if I was comfortable move to ..
4 sets of 10-15 reps or failure. If comfortable, bump weight and start at the beginning again.
If I had anything that used a straight olympic bar, I always started without plates. If I started with free-weights, I started at 8-10lbs. If I was sore the next day, I was at a good weight. If not, I bumped up slightly next time.
As I progressed, I would sometimes do two exercises per body part (so a total of six on some days). But even then, I may only do two exercises for chest (and area I want to improve) and one each of shoulders and triceps if I am in a time crunch.
A sample of my first workouts with no experience:
Legs:
3 sets of 10 - Lunges per Leg
3 Sets of 10 - Ball Squats (put a exercise between your back and a wall, and squat down)
3 sets of 10 - Calf Raises
Back, Biceps, Abs
3 sets of 10 - Wide Grip Pulldowns on a Machine
3 Sets of 10 - Running Curls
3 Sets of 10 - Crunches
Chest, Shoulder, and Triceps
3 sets of 10 - Push Ups at a 45 Degree Angle (like against a weight bench or table)
3 sets of 10 - Plate Rotations (grab a 10lb weight plate like a steering wheel, rotate your arms left, back behind you head as best as you can, and back around to starting position)
3 sets of 10 - Rope Pulldowns (on a machine).
Then you get creative. Find other exercises that do the same thing. You did ball squats last week, look at the machine that you sit and push out with your feet in a squatting position. Did push ups last week, try the chest press machine.
As for ideas on exercises - there are a ton of phone apps as well as websites. Just type "leg gym exercise" or something similar and watch a video. Now that you know what groups to work and to only do one exercise per body part - have fun interchanging the exercises.
My goal is to do 20 minutes of cardio with 30-40 minutes of strength training 3 times a week (M W F). Then I try to do a 45 min cardio day on T or Thu. But in the past I have done just the 3 days a week and had progress.
My trainer also told me that there is a law of diminishing returns after an hour. You do make progress, but it's not nearly as much, especially in cardio work.
Hopefully this will give you something to start with. Hope it helps. Feel free to ask if there is anything else I can do.
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Oh, as a side note. If you do strength training. Try to increase your protein to help you recover. Even if this is eating two slices of lunchmeat when you snack on some fruit. Another good option is a protein mix that doesn't taste horrible. Body Fortress Super Advanced Whey Protein tastes like a milkshake and you can buy a jug of it at wal-mart for 15-18.00. Drink 8-16 ounces of 2% milk (or almond milk) with 1-2 scoops. Your body will need the protein to repair itself. You get bonus points if you drink it within 20 minutes of your workout.
The other benefit? As you add muscle, you burn more calories by just sitting there. Its a win/win.
Also feel free to friend me, and you can see my food diary. That may help as well. (if you ignore the odd cheat day or two).0 -
ShannonMpls wrote: »Does your gym have classes? If so, see if they have Body Pump on the schedule. It's not a class I personally take, but it will teach you tons of lifts (with good form, if you have a good instructor) using barbells. Then you can use those skills as a basis for moving onto the barbells in the weight room with a program like Starting Strength or Stronglifts.
A lot of people really like New Rules of Lifting for Women too.
Body pump is an AMAZING class! And u can start out very light or no weight the first few times until u get a feel for it. If your gym offers it, I highly recommend trying it!0 -
4thDegreeKnight wrote: »This is how I approached it when I started doing the same thing - This was with the help of my trainer. It worked for me, take it with a grain of salt, and know I am no expert. I was like you, I am in my late 30's and considered obese.
When I do strength training, I work in groups.
Day 1 - Legs
Day 2 - Back, Biceps, and Abs
Day 3 - Chest, Shoulder and Triceps
When I just started, like day one, I did one exercise for each area. This means on Legs, I may have done only lunges. On Back, Biceps, and Abs I would do pulldowns, running curls, and crunches. I would do each group, one day a week, over a week (3 day commitment) after a 20 min cardio workout (like treadmill or elliptical).
If I did work in sets and reps it was a progression:
3 Sets of 10 reps, if I was comfortable move to ...
3 Sets of 12 reps, if I was comfortable move to ...
3 sets of 15 reps, if I was comfortable move to ..
4 sets of 10-15 reps or failure. If comfortable, bump weight and start at the beginning again.
If I had anything that used a straight olympic bar, I always started without plates. If I started with free-weights, I started at 8-10lbs. If I was sore the next day, I was at a good weight. If not, I bumped up slightly next time.
As I progressed, I would sometimes do two exercises per body part (so a total of six on some days). But even then, I may only do two exercises for chest (and area I want to improve) and one each of shoulders and triceps if I am in a time crunch.
A sample of my first workouts with no experience:
Legs:
3 sets of 10 - Lunges per Leg
3 Sets of 10 - Ball Squats (put a exercise between your back and a wall, and squat down)
3 sets of 10 - Calf Raises
Back, Biceps, Abs
3 sets of 10 - Wide Grip Pulldowns on a Machine
3 Sets of 10 - Running Curls
3 Sets of 10 - Crunches
Chest, Shoulder, and Triceps
3 sets of 10 - Push Ups at a 45 Degree Angle (like against a weight bench or table)
3 sets of 10 - Plate Rotations (grab a 10lb weight plate like a steering wheel, rotate your arms left, back behind you head as best as you can, and back around to starting position)
3 sets of 10 - Rope Pulldowns (on a machine).
Then you get creative. Find other exercises that do the same thing. You did ball squats last week, look at the machine that you sit and push out with your feet in a squatting position. Did push ups last week, try the chest press machine.
As for ideas on exercises - there are a ton of phone apps as well as websites. Just type "leg gym exercise" or something similar and watch a video. Now that you know what groups to work and to only do one exercise per body part - have fun interchanging the exercises.
My goal is to do 20 minutes of cardio with 30-40 minutes of strength training 3 times a week (M W F). Then I try to do a 45 min cardio day on T or Thu. But in the past I have done just the 3 days a week and had progress.
My trainer also told me that there is a law of diminishing returns after an hour. You do make progress, but it's not nearly as much, especially in cardio work.
Hopefully this will give you something to start with. Hope it helps. Feel free to ask if there is anything else I can do.
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mishelnkiki1 wrote: »ShannonMpls wrote: »Does your gym have classes? If so, see if they have Body Pump on the schedule. It's not a class I personally take, but it will teach you tons of lifts (with good form, if you have a good instructor) using barbells. Then you can use those skills as a basis for moving onto the barbells in the weight room with a program like Starting Strength or Stronglifts.
A lot of people really like New Rules of Lifting for Women too.
Body pump is an AMAZING class! And u can start out very light or no weight the first few times until u get a feel for it. If your gym offers it, I highly recommend trying it!
I think it does! I may give it a shot.0 -
Thank you, everyone for the book and website recommendations. I will do some research and have a better plan.
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