Why has My fitness pal lowered my calorie allowance?

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  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    tinaruth19 wrote: »
    Ok thank you for your replies, hopefully mfp will re set itself in a few days and i can try again. Although I have put 11st as my target, I was planning on moving it to 10st as I got closer. Would 2lbs still be considered too aggressive if I had 28lbs to loose?

    It would be just barely too aggressive.

    You can derive about 31 calories per day per pound of your fat stores. At 28 lbs of fat to lose, that's (28 x 31 x 7)/3500 = 1.73 lbs per week. You should set your goal to between 1.5 and 2 lbs per week loss. At 24 lbs you can drop to 1.5 lbs per week, at 16 lbs you can drop to 1, and at 8 lbs you can drop to 0.5 per week.

    So I supposedly have 49lbs of fat to lose, which is weird because I'm only 20 to 30lbs away from my goal weight. So how do I calculate mine?

    I don't follow you here... how do you know you have 49 lbs of fat to lose?

    Got my body measured,169lbs of lean muscle and 49lbs of fat
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Zed, each post you make illustrates you didn't read the study, just the blurb about maximal theoretical burn.

    You make me miss the ignore feature ... good day.
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    Where is this study? I'd like to read it
  • Zedeff
    Zedeff Posts: 651 Member
    Zed, each post you make illustrates you didn't read the study, just the blurb about maximal theoretical burn.

    You make me miss the ignore feature ... good day.

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  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    tinaruth19 wrote: »
    Ok thank you for your replies, hopefully mfp will re set itself in a few days and i can try again. Although I have put 11st as my target, I was planning on moving it to 10st as I got closer. Would 2lbs still be considered too aggressive if I had 28lbs to loose?

    It would be just barely too aggressive.

    You can derive about 31 calories per day per pound of your fat stores. At 28 lbs of fat to lose, that's (28 x 31 x 7)/3500 = 1.73 lbs per week. You should set your goal to between 1.5 and 2 lbs per week loss. At 24 lbs you can drop to 1.5 lbs per week, at 16 lbs you can drop to 1, and at 8 lbs you can drop to 0.5 per week.

    So I supposedly have 49lbs of fat to lose, which is weird because I'm only 20 to 30lbs away from my goal weight. So how do I calculate mine?

    I don't follow you here... how do you know you have 49 lbs of fat to lose?

    Got my body measured,169lbs of lean muscle and 49lbs of fat

    Zero pounds of fat is unhealthy. Right now you're a little over 22% body fat.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Zed, each post you make illustrates you didn't read the study, just the blurb about maximal theoretical burn.

    You make me miss the ignore feature ... good day.

    VWr6I.gif

    Your ability to judge my emotions is as flawed as your concept that theoretical maximal is a planning factor.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    tinaruth19 wrote: »
    Ok thank you for your replies, hopefully mfp will re set itself in a few days and i can try again. Although I have put 11st as my target, I was planning on moving it to 10st as I got closer. Would 2lbs still be considered too aggressive if I had 28lbs to loose?

    It would be just barely too aggressive.

    You can derive about 31 calories per day per pound of your fat stores. At 28 lbs of fat to lose, that's (28 x 31 x 7)/3500 = 1.73 lbs per week. You should set your goal to between 1.5 and 2 lbs per week loss. At 24 lbs you can drop to 1.5 lbs per week, at 16 lbs you can drop to 1, and at 8 lbs you can drop to 0.5 per week.

    So I supposedly have 49lbs of fat to lose, which is weird because I'm only 20 to 30lbs away from my goal weight. So how do I calculate mine?

    I don't follow you here... how do you know you have 49 lbs of fat to lose?

    Got my body measured,169lbs of lean muscle and 49lbs of fat

    You'd be ~22.5% BF then, and since you can't be 0% BF then you don't have 49lbs to lose haha. Let's say you wanted to get down to.. idk, 15%BF, under optimal conditions (lifting, protein intake and calories set properly) then a 200lb goal would be reasonable. If you wanted 10%BF then 180lbs would be more reasonable.

    So if you have body fat % goals, that should be how you determine your goals
    fat2fittools.com/tools/ibw/

    Otherwise, just go by total weight for your goals.
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    tinaruth19 wrote: »
    Ok thank you for your replies, hopefully mfp will re set itself in a few days and i can try again. Although I have put 11st as my target, I was planning on moving it to 10st as I got closer. Would 2lbs still be considered too aggressive if I had 28lbs to loose?

    It would be just barely too aggressive.

    You can derive about 31 calories per day per pound of your fat stores. At 28 lbs of fat to lose, that's (28 x 31 x 7)/3500 = 1.73 lbs per week. You should set your goal to between 1.5 and 2 lbs per week loss. At 24 lbs you can drop to 1.5 lbs per week, at 16 lbs you can drop to 1, and at 8 lbs you can drop to 0.5 per week.

    So I supposedly have 49lbs of fat to lose, which is weird because I'm only 20 to 30lbs away from my goal weight. So how do I calculate mine?

    I don't follow you here... how do you know you have 49 lbs of fat to lose?

    Got my body measured,169lbs of lean muscle and 49lbs of fat

    Zero pounds of fat is unhealthy. Right now you're a little over 22% body fat.

    OK, so lose like another 29bs then?
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    tinaruth19 wrote: »
    Ok thank you for your replies, hopefully mfp will re set itself in a few days and i can try again. Although I have put 11st as my target, I was planning on moving it to 10st as I got closer. Would 2lbs still be considered too aggressive if I had 28lbs to loose?

    It would be just barely too aggressive.

    You can derive about 31 calories per day per pound of your fat stores. At 28 lbs of fat to lose, that's (28 x 31 x 7)/3500 = 1.73 lbs per week. You should set your goal to between 1.5 and 2 lbs per week loss. At 24 lbs you can drop to 1.5 lbs per week, at 16 lbs you can drop to 1, and at 8 lbs you can drop to 0.5 per week.

    So I supposedly have 49lbs of fat to lose, which is weird because I'm only 20 to 30lbs away from my goal weight. So how do I calculate mine?

    I don't follow you here... how do you know you have 49 lbs of fat to lose?

    Got my body measured,169lbs of lean muscle and 49lbs of fat

    Zero pounds of fat is unhealthy. Right now you're a little over 22% body fat.

    OK, so lose like another 29bs then?

    What is your goal? 15% bf? 10%? What is maintainable for you?

    A body builder after show preparation is in the 3-7% range.

    Here is a generic visual ...
    body-fat-percentage-men.jpg
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    tinaruth19 wrote: »
    Ok thank you for your replies, hopefully mfp will re set itself in a few days and i can try again. Although I have put 11st as my target, I was planning on moving it to 10st as I got closer. Would 2lbs still be considered too aggressive if I had 28lbs to loose?

    It would be just barely too aggressive.

    You can derive about 31 calories per day per pound of your fat stores. At 28 lbs of fat to lose, that's (28 x 31 x 7)/3500 = 1.73 lbs per week. You should set your goal to between 1.5 and 2 lbs per week loss. At 24 lbs you can drop to 1.5 lbs per week, at 16 lbs you can drop to 1, and at 8 lbs you can drop to 0.5 per week.

    So I supposedly have 49lbs of fat to lose, which is weird because I'm only 20 to 30lbs away from my goal weight. So how do I calculate mine?

    I don't follow you here... how do you know you have 49 lbs of fat to lose?

    Got my body measured,169lbs of lean muscle and 49lbs of fat

    You'd be ~22.5% BF then, and since you can't be 0% BF then you don't have 49lbs to lose haha. Let's say you wanted to get down to.. idk, 15%BF, under optimal conditions (lifting, protein intake and calories set properly) then a 200lb goal would be reasonable. If you wanted 10%BF then 180lbs would be more reasonable.

    So if you have body fat % goals, that should be how you determine your goals
    fat2fittools.com/tools/ibw/

    Otherwise, just go by total weight for your goals.

    Ideally 185lb being really tone would be good, better than 175 skinny fat. I'm 205lb now and kinda afraid to adjust my calorie goal to loose less weight lol
  • musicandarts
    musicandarts Posts: 187 Member
    Stick with 1 lb or less weight loss per week. If you log your exercise in MFP, it automatically adjusts your calorie budget.
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,147 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    tinaruth19 wrote: »
    Ok thank you for your replies, hopefully mfp will re set itself in a few days and i can try again. Although I have put 11st as my target, I was planning on moving it to 10st as I got closer. Would 2lbs still be considered too aggressive if I had 28lbs to loose?

    It would be just barely too aggressive.

    You can derive about 31 calories per day per pound of your fat stores. At 28 lbs of fat to lose, that's (28 x 31 x 7)/3500 = 1.73 lbs per week. You should set your goal to between 1.5 and 2 lbs per week loss. At 24 lbs you can drop to 1.5 lbs per week, at 16 lbs you can drop to 1, and at 8 lbs you can drop to 0.5 per week.

    So I supposedly have 49lbs of fat to lose, which is weird because I'm only 20 to 30lbs away from my goal weight. So how do I calculate mine?

    I don't follow you here... how do you know you have 49 lbs of fat to lose?

    Got my body measured,169lbs of lean muscle and 49lbs of fat

    Zero pounds of fat is unhealthy. Right now you're a little over 22% body fat.

    OK, so lose like another 29bs then?

    What is your goal? 15% bf? 10%? What is maintainable for you?

    A body builder after show preparation is in the 3-7% range.

    Here is a generic visual ...
    body-fat-percentage-men.jpg

    I'll take the 15%!!!
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    edited February 2015
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    tinaruth19 wrote: »
    Ok thank you for your replies, hopefully mfp will re set itself in a few days and i can try again. Although I have put 11st as my target, I was planning on moving it to 10st as I got closer. Would 2lbs still be considered too aggressive if I had 28lbs to loose?

    It would be just barely too aggressive.

    You can derive about 31 calories per day per pound of your fat stores. At 28 lbs of fat to lose, that's (28 x 31 x 7)/3500 = 1.73 lbs per week. You should set your goal to between 1.5 and 2 lbs per week loss. At 24 lbs you can drop to 1.5 lbs per week, at 16 lbs you can drop to 1, and at 8 lbs you can drop to 0.5 per week.

    So I supposedly have 49lbs of fat to lose, which is weird because I'm only 20 to 30lbs away from my goal weight. So how do I calculate mine?

    I don't follow you here... how do you know you have 49 lbs of fat to lose?

    Got my body measured,169lbs of lean muscle and 49lbs of fat

    Zero pounds of fat is unhealthy. Right now you're a little over 22% body fat.

    OK, so lose like another 29bs then?

    What is your goal? 15% bf? 10%? What is maintainable for you?

    A body builder after show preparation is in the 3-7% range.

    Here is a generic visual ...
    body-fat-percentage-men.jpg

    Nice imagery, I'd be happy with 10 to 15% probably, especially if I could look like that lol
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    Stick with 1 lb or less weight loss per week. If you log your exercise in MFP, it automatically adjusts your calorie budget.

    If I did that, idk what I would eat to get extra calories in. Now I'm eating about 1800 to 2000 and exercise drops me to 1350 to 1450. That's 2lbs per week.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    tinaruth19 wrote: »
    Ok thank you for your replies, hopefully mfp will re set itself in a few days and i can try again. Although I have put 11st as my target, I was planning on moving it to 10st as I got closer. Would 2lbs still be considered too aggressive if I had 28lbs to loose?

    It would be just barely too aggressive.

    You can derive about 31 calories per day per pound of your fat stores. At 28 lbs of fat to lose, that's (28 x 31 x 7)/3500 = 1.73 lbs per week. You should set your goal to between 1.5 and 2 lbs per week loss. At 24 lbs you can drop to 1.5 lbs per week, at 16 lbs you can drop to 1, and at 8 lbs you can drop to 0.5 per week.

    So I supposedly have 49lbs of fat to lose, which is weird because I'm only 20 to 30lbs away from my goal weight. So how do I calculate mine?

    I don't follow you here... how do you know you have 49 lbs of fat to lose?

    Got my body measured,169lbs of lean muscle and 49lbs of fat

    Zero pounds of fat is unhealthy. Right now you're a little over 22% body fat.

    OK, so lose like another 29bs then?

    What is your goal? 15% bf? 10%? What is maintainable for you?

    A body builder after show preparation is in the 3-7% range.

    Here is a generic visual ...
    body-fat-percentage-men.jpg

    Gimme 10-15% range, please. Actually one of my crushes at the gym (I went to HS with him and he bulked up a loooooooot since then) is somewhere between 15-20%. Like perpetual bulking LOL. He's beautiful.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    tinaruth19 wrote: »
    Ok thank you for your replies, hopefully mfp will re set itself in a few days and i can try again. Although I have put 11st as my target, I was planning on moving it to 10st as I got closer. Would 2lbs still be considered too aggressive if I had 28lbs to loose?

    It would be just barely too aggressive.

    You can derive about 31 calories per day per pound of your fat stores. At 28 lbs of fat to lose, that's (28 x 31 x 7)/3500 = 1.73 lbs per week. You should set your goal to between 1.5 and 2 lbs per week loss. At 24 lbs you can drop to 1.5 lbs per week, at 16 lbs you can drop to 1, and at 8 lbs you can drop to 0.5 per week.

    So I supposedly have 49lbs of fat to lose, which is weird because I'm only 20 to 30lbs away from my goal weight. So how do I calculate mine?

    I don't follow you here... how do you know you have 49 lbs of fat to lose?

    Got my body measured,169lbs of lean muscle and 49lbs of fat

    You'd be ~22.5% BF then, and since you can't be 0% BF then you don't have 49lbs to lose haha. Let's say you wanted to get down to.. idk, 15%BF, under optimal conditions (lifting, protein intake and calories set properly) then a 200lb goal would be reasonable. If you wanted 10%BF then 180lbs would be more reasonable.

    So if you have body fat % goals, that should be how you determine your goals
    fat2fittools.com/tools/ibw/

    Otherwise, just go by total weight for your goals.

    Ideally 185lb being really tone would be good, better than 175 skinny fat. I'm 205lb now and kinda afraid to adjust my calorie goal to loose less weight lol

    Oh I was going off of 218lbs for some reason.. So if you're 205 now and still around 22% BF then 185 would probably get you ~15% BF. 10% would be closer to 180. 1lb/week or 0.5lb/week isn't that bad! Especially 1lb/week, I did that for my first 25lbs or so.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,165 Member
    edited February 2015
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Stick with 1 lb or less weight loss per week. If you log your exercise in MFP, it automatically adjusts your calorie budget.

    If I did that, idk what I would eat to get extra calories in. Now I'm eating about 1800 to 2000 and exercise drops me to 1350 to 1450. That's 2lbs per week.

    But you were looking to cut strength training because of time constraints and you said you would rather do cardio over lifting because of the calorie burn/so you could eat more.
    If you cut to 1lb a week, you could do the strength training and still eat around the same level of calories.

  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    edited February 2015
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Stick with 1 lb or less weight loss per week. If you log your exercise in MFP, it automatically adjusts your calorie budget.

    If I did that, idk what I would eat to get extra calories in. Now I'm eating about 1800 to 2000 and exercise drops me to 1350 to 1450. That's 2lbs per week.

    But you were looking to cut strength training because of time constraints and you said you would rather do cardio over lifting because of the calorie burn/so you could eat more.
    If you cut to 1lb a week, you could do the strength training and still eat around the same level of calories.

    Yeah good point. Like I said I've been doing 2lbs a week for so long (almost 9 months) I'm not even phased by it really. If I drop to 1lb, I'd be eating enough for weights (assuming I could eat enough). I'm so focused on my scale weight before summer, but that's really not what I should be focused on. Having been fat all my life, the scale has been nemesis lol
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Stick with 1 lb or less weight loss per week. If you log your exercise in MFP, it automatically adjusts your calorie budget.

    If I did that, idk what I would eat to get extra calories in. Now I'm eating about 1800 to 2000 and exercise drops me to 1350 to 1450. That's 2lbs per week.

    Exercise doesn't drop your intake, it increases it. Meaning if your 2lb/week goal is 1800 calories then exercising would make your goal 2000+ calories (eating back at least half of the calories)
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,165 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Stick with 1 lb or less weight loss per week. If you log your exercise in MFP, it automatically adjusts your calorie budget.

    If I did that, idk what I would eat to get extra calories in. Now I'm eating about 1800 to 2000 and exercise drops me to 1350 to 1450. That's 2lbs per week.

    Exercise doesn't drop your intake, it increases it. Meaning if your 2lb/week goal is 1800 calories then exercising would make your goal 2000+ calories (eating back at least half of the calories)


    I think what he means is his exercise brings his net down. His calorie goal is around 1350. He exercises and burns 450 more so and eats 1800.
    So he eats 1800 and his exercise brings him back down to a net of 1350.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    169 lean + 49 fat = 218

    something isn't adding up here.
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    169 lean + 49 fat = 218

    something isn't adding up here.

    Maybe my numbers are off, my memory isn't so great. All the data is on my work email. Plus the weight they had me at is lower than it is now.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    169 lean + 49 fat = 218

    something isn't adding up here.

    I'm guessing that he got the test done earlier and has since lost weight
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Stick with 1 lb or less weight loss per week. If you log your exercise in MFP, it automatically adjusts your calorie budget.

    If I did that, idk what I would eat to get extra calories in. Now I'm eating about 1800 to 2000 and exercise drops me to 1350 to 1450. That's 2lbs per week.

    Exercise doesn't drop your intake, it increases it. Meaning if your 2lb/week goal is 1800 calories then exercising would make your goal 2000+ calories (eating back at least half of the calories)

    My 2lb a week was 1370, with exercising I was burning 400 to 600 calories so I could eat 1800 a day (some days I burned more)

    Now with 1lb a week my goal would be around 1800 + whatever I burn for the day.

    So I can in.theory allow myself a rest day which would be fine except I love exercising, or I can eat more then what I have. I've set my goal to 1.5 a week so I can adjust slowly.
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    169 lean + 49 fat = 218

    something isn't adding up here.

    I'm guessing that he got the test done earlier and has since lost weight

    This.

    I think I was 212 when I had it done, so that would be 43 not 49
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Stick with 1 lb or less weight loss per week. If you log your exercise in MFP, it automatically adjusts your calorie budget.

    If I did that, idk what I would eat to get extra calories in. Now I'm eating about 1800 to 2000 and exercise drops me to 1350 to 1450. That's 2lbs per week.

    Exercise doesn't drop your intake, it increases it. Meaning if your 2lb/week goal is 1800 calories then exercising would make your goal 2000+ calories (eating back at least half of the calories)

    My 2lb a week was 1370, with exercising I was burning 400 to 600 calories so I could eat 1800 a day (some days I burned more)

    Now with 1lb a week my goal would be around 1800 + whatever I burn for the day.

    So I can in.theory allow myself a rest day which would be fine except I love exercising, or I can eat more then what I have. I've set my goal to 1.5 a week so I can adjust slowly.

    Makes sense, and that's a good plan. Will help reduce water weight gains from increased calories too.
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    Now to figure out how to do the weights 2 to 3 days a week, focus t25 program., and jog at least 1 day a week. I don't think I can.

    And sorry I totally derailed this thread lol
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Now to figure out how to do the weights 2 to 3 days a week, focus t25 program., and jog at least 1 day a week. I don't think I can.

    And sorry I totally derailed this thread lol

    Weights: Full body routine M, W, F (either doing the main lifts each day or doing an ABA BAB type of schedule)
    Jogging: Any day of the week you want
    t25: however many days you want, as it's only 25 mins. On off days from lifting or when you wake up in the morning (then lifting when you'd normally go to the gym).
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    Yeah that works
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Yeah that works

    Try Googling for some basic full body lifting routines too, many will have just 3-4 exercises. Shouldn't take too long, especially if you only do ~3 sets (whcih is more than fine in a caloric deficit), stay under 2 minutes for your rests, and only do 1-2 warm up sets per muscle group. The t25 could be something you do before bed instead of when you wake up, or you could just do it right after weights and then jog on your off days, etc. Just figure out how much time you can/want to commit to exercise every day and tailor things to work for you
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