Breaking a habit
Im_Johnny
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For me when I've gone on a diet it's usually been straight forward, no more fatty foods and eat salad and fruits. I'm the past that has worked for me but it was only a diet, and not a true change of habit so I went back to fatty foods and gained more.
I simply enjoy Pizza, Fried Chicken and Burgers.
Apples are cool and all, but they don't satisfy me the way a steak does.
Is it possible for me to simply enjoy the foods I like and cut down the portions?
Would it be ok for me to stick to a 2000 calorie diet and still eat pizza?
I don't know why I feel like I have to replace these things with salads.
All I want to do is lose weight and enjoy my life.
I simply enjoy Pizza, Fried Chicken and Burgers.
Apples are cool and all, but they don't satisfy me the way a steak does.
Is it possible for me to simply enjoy the foods I like and cut down the portions?
Would it be ok for me to stick to a 2000 calorie diet and still eat pizza?
I don't know why I feel like I have to replace these things with salads.
All I want to do is lose weight and enjoy my life.
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Yes...go to weightwatchers...they will teach you how to track so you can enjoy stuff like pizza, burgers...and you can make homemade pizza, low far, small crust, home made burgers etc0
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u dont need weightwatchers. not that its not a good program. it is. just track your calories on here. stay under how many it tells u after entering your stats. i would recommend to only eating junk since it wont give u as much quantity as lean meat and veggies with say a potato but u can have pizza. just not a whole pizza. a calorie is a calorie no matter where it comes from. good luck it doesnt have to be all or nothing0
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sorry 'not to only eat junk' typo!0
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Moderation is the best way to lose weight and keep it off So yeah, you can totally diet without depriving yourself of 'unhealthy' foods that you love.
Firstly, you can work the 'original' version of those foods into your diet for the day. If you know that your family is going out for pizza, find the pizza joint's menu online. Most chain resturaunts will have a dietary information sheet. If you know that you're going to work in say, three pieces of pizza, and combined they have 700 calories, then you'll be able to see what you should eat for the rest of the day without going over your goal. On days you eat our you might need to have fruit for breakfast instead of oatmeal or eggs, but you can still enjoy pizza later on while remaining on track.
You can also make healthy, low-cal versions of the food you like. I really liked making personal pizza on bread, or you could use a thin crust pizza bought at the store, and load it up with veggies, low fat cheese and lean meat like chicken or salmon. The internet is full of great recipes to help you get started
To make a diet like this work, it's super important to fill in your diary correctly, because most people overestimate their food intake pretty drastically. Measure everything (including cooking oil, dips, sauces, dressings, sugar and cream in your coffee), and invest in a digital kitchen scale. It seems like a lot of work at first, but you'll get into the habit of weighing everything really fast. It pays off, trust me!
Good luck!
P.S. Thought I should add, salads are a great way to supplement an 'unhealthy' meal. If you're having pizza, have half as many slices as you normally would, and a big green salad on the side to help fill you up. Watch out for creamy, high cal salad dressings, though.0 -
No need to go to weight watchers. A better system is here and it's free. I started with weight watchers and have found this to be superior. No BS point system. It's all about the calories. Buy yourself a cheap digital scale and eat under your calorie goal for the day. It can include pizza and anything else you like as long as it's under your calorie goal.0
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I agree with Ifrazier above. I had the same experience with WW 3 times. MFP is working for me much better. Easier to use, support when you need it and food and calorie data to help you make choices so there is room for those good things in life. If you increase your activity level you can eat more too - easy to track this using this system.0
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You can do it! Moderation is key. I do enjoy fruits and veggies and all manner of healthy foods but I also love a good burger or pizza. Check out my diary and you'll see how I split things up. On weekdays, I tend to have a light breakfast, a light calorie and healthy but heavy duty lunch (soups that are very filling but less than 500 calories), and crap for dinner. I get most of my good nutrients at lunch and breakfast but, without my huge and awful dinners, I would feel deprived and fail. And it works. I've reset my ticker so it doesn't reflect right now (purely psychological - I stall when I lost about 20 lbs because I think I'm hot s*** and deserve a break) but I've lost the weight and did it eating all the things I enjoy... in moderation and in a way that I can sustain it on a daily basis.0
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Portion + moderation + exercise = opportunity to sometimes eat not-so-healthy foods.0
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Thanks guys, yeah the salads are just kinda bs to me anymore. I see it as a burger topping not a meal. So its been hard.0
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i heard mcdonyalds is real nice, a healthy mcdonalds0
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real nice0
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sean1234567891034 wrote: »i heard mcdonyalds is real nice, a healthy mcdonalds
Going to McDonald's for a healthy meal is like going to a prostitute for hug....0 -
Have you looked into a Low carb High Fat Way to Eat? I know it's not too popular on here but check it out. You can have steak with REAL butter with a side of veggies just skip the roll. Have Water instead of a diet Coke.0
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Katerina9408 wrote: »sean1234567891034 wrote: »i heard mcdonyalds is real nice, a healthy mcdonalds
Going to McDonald's for a healthy meal is like going to a prostitute for hug....
+1 internet for you, this is probably the best thing I've read today.
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For me when I've gone on a diet it's usually been straight forward, no more fatty foods and eat salad and fruits. I'm the past that has worked for me but it was only a diet, and not a true change of habit so I went back to fatty foods and gained more.
I simply enjoy Pizza, Fried Chicken and Burgers.
Apples are cool and all, but they don't satisfy me the way a steak does.
Is it possible for me to simply enjoy the foods I like and cut down the portions?
Would it be ok for me to stick to a 2000 calorie diet and still eat pizza?
I don't know why I feel like I have to replace these things with salads.
All I want to do is lose weight and enjoy my life.
Pizza is workable as long as your other meals fit into the day.
The same with burgers, although depending on what else you ate that day, you might want to eat it without the bread (for example).
Steak is a great idea. Look for low fat cuts and weigh it so you can log it into the diary.
Fried chicken: one original chicken breast from KFC is 320 calories, so you could have a piece of chicken.
http://www.kfc.com/nutrition/
Steak is a great idea. Look for low fat cuts and weigh it so you can log it into the diary.
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I don't know about the UK but in Australia McDonald's now shows the calorie/fat etc content and actually they DO have healthy meals. there's a red tick system on food called Heart Healthy and Maccas do have some red ticks...not for a double Mac but a grilled chicken wrap, grilled fish, salads. Basically if your friends went in there you could have a skinny shake, grilled chicken wrap, salad and fruit pieces and not feel left out...0
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I don't know about the UK but in Australia McDonald's now shows the calorie/fat etc content and actually they DO have healthy meals. there's a red tick system on food called Heart Healthy and Maccas do have some red ticks...not for a double Mac but a grilled chicken wrap, grilled fish, salads. Basically if your friends went in there you could have a skinny shake, grilled chicken wrap, salad and fruit pieces and not feel left out...
Do you really trust them ? They probably pick all the leftovers from the floor and put it in your burger. The fun part is that you never know what u have in your burger ....dog tail ? snout ? hoof ? ...you never know...mmm tasty isn't it ?0 -
Katerina9408 wrote: »sean1234567891034 wrote: »i heard mcdonyalds is real nice, a healthy mcdonalds
Going to McDonald's for a healthy meal is like going to a prostitute for hug....
This made my day0 -
For me when I've gone on a diet it's usually been straight forward, no more fatty foods and eat salad and fruits. I'm the past that has worked for me but it was only a diet, and not a true change of habit so I went back to fatty foods and gained more.
I simply enjoy Pizza, Fried Chicken and Burgers.
Apples are cool and all, but they don't satisfy me the way a steak does.
Is it possible for me to simply enjoy the foods I like and cut down the portions?
Would it be ok for me to stick to a 2000 calorie diet and still eat pizza?
I don't know why I feel like I have to replace these things with salads.
All I want to do is lose weight and enjoy my life.
If you have a calorie amount that is a defecit from maintenance and you stick to it you will lose weight
even when I was at 1500 calories I could easily fit in pizza
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I had the exact same problem. I used to go hardcore only healthy foods...and I feel off the wagon every time. I've decided that as long as I'm within my macros and my calorie goal, why not have something I really want every now and then. About once a week I just up and eat at Buffalo Wild Wings, order a pizza, eat mac and cheese, or just have some chocolate. Whatever I want, the rest of that day I do salad and fruit it up, but that little treat once every week or two keeps me from binging when I get tired of healthy eating.0
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I love pizza!! Have you tried making cauliflower pizza crust. Easy to google the recipe. I just load mine with veggies and go easy on sauce and cheese.0
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Its not all or none. Use MFP to track your BMR, TDEE and calorie intake. Junk food is junk food. Eventually you will need to eat better. However, I believe if you satiate your cravings once in a while (in fact schedule a cheat meal/day even if you think it is unnecessary) it would make you follow a healthier lifestyle more easily.
And yes, if you adopt portion control, you will achieve the calorie deficit to lose the weight. Theoretically a calorie is a calorie but some foods just keep you full longer with less (clean eating). Try to incorporate a soup/ salad with your junk meals. Eat that first. That way, you will get to enjoy the food that you like, savour it and feel satiated too without blowing out your calorie budget completely.
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I was using MFP for a good 6 months before I found these posts so it is a bit of a personal mission of mine to pass them on to other people who are just starting.
My standard suggestion/tip is to do some reading and buy a kitchen scale!!!juliet3455 wrote: »Visit these links about building Habits.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/the-power-of-habit-part-4-making-good-habits-stick-1-000-days-on-mfp-and-counting-698617
http://blog.myfitnesspal.com/the-next-step/
Visit the Eat-Train-Progress group and read the pinned topics. If you click on the little STAR you can bookmark the topic for future reference.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/10118-eat-train-progress
Read the information at these MFP post. They have links to multiple very good reads.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/categories/getting-started
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/833026/important-posts-to-read/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1069278/acronyms-and-terms-for-new-mfp-members-v-6/p1
Try the USDA site as a cross reference for nutrition values of different food diary entries.
http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/
A Recipe Swap Group
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/148-recipe-swap
A Recipe Blog Site
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/category/eat/recipes/
Some of these links will show up in the other Groups and discussions.
There are lots of other good groups and discussions with really good information and some with a more Social aspect.
@blankiefinder She Nailed it when it comes to Logging accurately and selecting food from the search feature.blankiefinder wrote: »By the way, if I haven't found an entry that lists the grams, I keep looking for a different entry. This [ Enter Food ] item is already listed a bunch of times. Better to edit and correct one that is already there than add to the database mess that exists now.
When creating or editing a Food item from the existing database my Personal Bias is to enter the nutritional values based on grams ( 100 gm ) as it makes the portion size math easy, especially when you use a scale and WEIGH EVERYTHING. Don't log 2 tablespoons as it is a subjective number, where 32 gm. is very concise. You will be surprised how small some portions look when you start to weigh them out.
Re-train/calibrate your mind as to what a portion size is.
For Nutritional values start with the values from the product label and confirm it with the un-biased nutritional information from the USDA web site at 100 gm.0 -
Katerina9408 wrote: »I don't know about the UK but in Australia McDonald's now shows the calorie/fat etc content and actually they DO have healthy meals. there's a red tick system on food called Heart Healthy and Maccas do have some red ticks...not for a double Mac but a grilled chicken wrap, grilled fish, salads. Basically if your friends went in there you could have a skinny shake, grilled chicken wrap, salad and fruit pieces and not feel left out...
Do you really trust them ? They probably pick all the leftovers from the floor and put it in your burger. The fun part is that you never know what u have in your burger ....dog tail ? snout ? hoof ? ...you never know...mmm tasty isn't it ?
Well, the burgers don't have the Heart Healthy tick and you can google the health report ( food inspector) for individual branches.....I haven't had a Maccas since I came back to England and it wouldn't be my first choice...I guess the point I was trying to make is that you can make good choices even in such a place...0 -
For me when I've gone on a diet it's usually been straight forward, no more fatty foods and eat salad and fruits. I'm the past that has worked for me but it was only a diet, and not a true change of habit so I went back to fatty foods and gained more.
I simply enjoy Pizza, Fried Chicken and Burgers.
Apples are cool and all, but they don't satisfy me the way a steak does.
Is it possible for me to simply enjoy the foods I like and cut down the portions?
Would it be ok for me to stick to a 2000 calorie diet and still eat pizza?
I don't know why I feel like I have to replace these things with salads.
All I want to do is lose weight and enjoy my life.
You don't break bad habits, you replace them. A habit is made up of three components the cue, the activity and the reward. What you need to do is replace the activity. I have a cue of sitting on the couch, watching TV. My habit was to eat a large bag of chips and maybe a Caramilk bar as well. My reward was the feeling I had after eating. Now, when I have the cue of watching TV, I sit on my recumbent bike and pedal. If I still have the craving for something tasty - I drink zero calorie flavored water. Then my reward is feeling good about working out rather than having a belly full of poison.
At meal time, you can still enjoy pizza, fried chicken and burgers - just don't do it every day. Eat those foods only once or twice a week. Replace those foods daily with a healthier option. My co-workers and I have a tradition of going to Fatburger for lunch every Friday. I used to order a wonderful burger every week with fries but, that was helping to make me unhealthy. I have replaced that with the Cajun Chicken Salad and have done that for 8 weeks in a row. The chicken on the salad tastes great and fills me up with protein. Honestly, that salad is probably one of the best restaurant salads you will ever eat. Big, filling and delicious.
Sure, I have a burger and pizza every once in a while but, most meals are from the healthy side of the menu. Indulge once or twice a week, just not every day. Eventually, you will stop craving the unhealthy stuff as eating well becomes a habit. I really love my salads and stir fry meals - I don't even care if the guy beside me is eating a burger and fries. I have built a habit. Building a new habit is hard at the beginning, you have to be a little radical but, every day it gets easier to continue until one day, you do it automatically!
Hope my ranting helps a little. Feel free to add me as a friend if you are so inclined. :-)
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Keep track of your calories, and you should be able to fit just about anything into a weight-loss diet. Be careful, though. Look it up first. My husband brought home a chicken-bacon-ranch stuffed pizza last weekend, family size. We cut it into 8 pieces and I ate one. Then I looked it up, and that one piece was 740 calories, a little more than half of my calories for the average day. Luckily I had gone for a long walk with the dog earlier that day, so I had extra calories.0
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that is why MFP is so great. you can work your favorite foods in to the program. as others have said you have to track everything you are eating to the best of your ability. Since MFP even lists the nutrition counts for fast foods you can see where you are doing damage. MFP will also tell you what your daily target calorie goal should be depending on your statistics and how much you want to lose per week.
2000 calories a day sounds too high to me to be losing weight. but I don't know what your activity level is or your other stats.
My daily calorie goal is 1280 to lose 2 lbs per week and I am not very active.
I agree with having a salad along with the pizza. get the salad dressing on the side. An old weight watcher's tip - dip your fork in the salad dressing and then the get salad instead of pouring dressing all over.0 -
You don't have to give up anything to lose weight, you just need to eat less. Caloric deficit equals weight loss.0
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I like Ogopogo's reply...replace your habits. So simple, so obvious. Yet never though of it in that way before. Thanks0
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Johnny, I thought I wrote that post myself. That is me exactly. I love to eat, I just hate being unhealthy. I am trying to find that balance myself. You cant live on carrots and celery. I want to enjoy life, not be miserable. That being said, I dont want to be older and in terrible health either. Moderation may be the key but it is so much easier said than done. Maybe it is easy for some people on here, maybe they just have great discipline, I know for me it is a struggle. Good luck brother. I'm right there with you.0
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