OW!! HEADACHES!
dhiggins210
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I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
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Are you eating lower carb, by accident or on purpose? With the exercise burning off your glycogen stores you might be experiencing low carb flu.0
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Thank you for responding so quickly, Jolinia! I haven't purposely cut back on carbs, but am taking in less. I have noticed that my daily intake is less than I would usually have before lunch! Will this pass or do I need to make adjustments?0
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Is it possible you're drinking less caffeine? (coffee, green tea, coca cola...)
You get headaches at first, until your body get used to lower amounts0 -
dhiggins210 wrote: »Thank you for responding so quickly, Jolinia! I haven't purposely cut back on carbs, but am taking in less. I have noticed that my daily intake is less than I would usually have before lunch! Will this pass or do I need to make adjustments?
I think you will adjust but I can't be sure because when I go into ketosis I tend to go all the way into low carb, eating only eggs, meat, and cheese until I adjust (if this is indeed what is happening to you, if it keeps up it could be doctor time just to be safe).0 -
Shushonet, I really haven't adjusted my caffeine intake. But, I have noticed it affects me more. Jolinia suggested the Carb Flu. I haven't purposely cut back on carbs, but I definitely don't eat as many. I am hoping my body is just adjusting and this will pass. I really appreciate the quick response from both of you.0
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dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!0 -
Certain foods give me headaches/migranes. Your diary isn't open so I could only suggest it could possibly be that in changing your diet you have introduced more tyramine contains foods. I can tolerate some, but past a threshold I get horrid headaches.
Some typical tyramine foods are:
Packaged meats
Aged cheese
Avacado
Nuts & seeds
Over ripe bananas
Chocolate
Tyramine is a break down of tyrosine, an amino acid. There is a more comprehensive list on the internet. These are most of the ones I have to watch. Good luck.0 -
margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
OP, I agree it could have something to do with carbs or caffeine. How many calories are you eating?0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.0 -
If what you are experiencing is keto flu, the answer is electrolytes. If you're not purposely going low carb, you can fix that with gatorade. If you are, MIO or a cup of meat or bone broth will stop the headache pretty quickly. Beyond the quick fix, make sure you're getting enough salt, magnesium and potassium (and don't rely on MFP to tell you how much potassium you get, 90% of it isn't included in the database). That's true for anyone, but it's easier to drop too low on LC if you're not making an effort to include them.
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Try coconut water during and/or after workouts. I've gotten post-workout headaches before but never with coconut water. If you wanna go cheap and less healthy, drink a Gatorade.0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.0 -
dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Have you cut back any drinks that have caffeine?0 -
Try coconut water during and/or after workouts. I've gotten post-workout headaches before but never with coconut water. If you wanna go cheap and less healthy, drink a Gatorade.
I haven't tried this for headaches, but I love coconut water. Definitely worth the extra money!
Also JPW has a great suggestion for if it is low carb flu with the broth. A lot of Atkins people use it to transition in because of the salt.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.
Yes there are many migraine triggers out there. All I'm saying that if someone was eating a lower calorie/carb diet and complaining of headaches, my first response would not be "Check your preservatives - chemicals can cause headaches!" Most of the general population does not have these sensitivities.
More likely, OP is not used to a lower carb intake and may not be properly fueling her body. When I first started, I was not eating enough calories, which caused me to be hungry and gave me headaches. Which is why I asked about her intake.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.
Yes there are many migraine triggers out there. All I'm saying that if someone was eating a lower calorie/carb diet and complaining of headaches, my first response would not be "Check your preservatives - chemicals can cause headaches!" Most of the general population does not have these sensitivities.
More likely, OP is not used to a lower carb intake and may not be properly fueling her body. When I first started, I was not eating enough calories, which caused me to be hungry and gave me headaches. Which is why I asked about her intake.
And that's a perfectly valid suggestion. It gave you headaches, so perhaps it is also the cause of hers. Which is exactly what the other poster did.0 -
I get that too and am trying to work out what's been causing it. The last two times I ate lots of protein after working out and I haven't had a headache.0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.
Yes there are many migraine triggers out there. All I'm saying that if someone was eating a lower calorie/carb diet and complaining of headaches, my first response would not be "Check your preservatives - chemicals can cause headaches!" Most of the general population does not have these sensitivities.
More likely, OP is not used to a lower carb intake and may not be properly fueling her body. When I first started, I was not eating enough calories, which caused me to be hungry and gave me headaches. Which is why I asked about her intake.
And that's a perfectly valid suggestion. It gave you headaches, so perhaps it is also the cause of hers. Which is exactly what the other poster did.
Okay. That does not change the fact that most people are not sensitive to preservatives and that they are unlikely to be the cause of OP's headaches. Most people who have a fear of preservatives and claim to have reactions to them (other than people who have a genuine migraine trigger or allergy) only have "reactions" because they read somewhere that the chemical was bad. That poster's suggestion would not apply to the general population, which was what I was pointing out.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.
Yes there are many migraine triggers out there. All I'm saying that if someone was eating a lower calorie/carb diet and complaining of headaches, my first response would not be "Check your preservatives - chemicals can cause headaches!" Most of the general population does not have these sensitivities.
More likely, OP is not used to a lower carb intake and may not be properly fueling her body. When I first started, I was not eating enough calories, which caused me to be hungry and gave me headaches. Which is why I asked about her intake.
And that's a perfectly valid suggestion. It gave you headaches, so perhaps it is also the cause of hers. Which is exactly what the other poster did.
Okay. That does not change the fact that most people are not sensitive to preservatives and that they are unlikely to be the cause of OP's headaches. Most people who have a fear of preservatives and claim to have reactions to them (other than people who have a genuine migraine trigger or allergy) only have "reactions" because they read somewhere that the chemical was bad. That poster's suggestion would not apply to the general population, which was what I was pointing out.
What science do you have to back up your statements? How many people are sensitive to preservatives? What are the odds that OP isn't? What are the odds of having a sensitivity that does not apply to the "general population"?0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.
Yes there are many migraine triggers out there. All I'm saying that if someone was eating a lower calorie/carb diet and complaining of headaches, my first response would not be "Check your preservatives - chemicals can cause headaches!" Most of the general population does not have these sensitivities.
More likely, OP is not used to a lower carb intake and may not be properly fueling her body. When I first started, I was not eating enough calories, which caused me to be hungry and gave me headaches. Which is why I asked about her intake.
And that's a perfectly valid suggestion. It gave you headaches, so perhaps it is also the cause of hers. Which is exactly what the other poster did.
Okay. That does not change the fact that most people are not sensitive to preservatives and that they are unlikely to be the cause of OP's headaches. Most people who have a fear of preservatives and claim to have reactions to them (other than people who have a genuine migraine trigger or allergy) only have "reactions" because they read somewhere that the chemical was bad. That poster's suggestion would not apply to the general population, which was what I was pointing out.
What science do you have to back up your statements? How many people are sensitive to preservatives? What are the odds that OP isn't? What are the odds of having a sensitivity that does not apply to the "general population"?
These are not serious questions btw. I'm just pointing out the nonsense of expecting someone sharing personal experience as a helpful suggestion to back up that experience with science.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.
Yes there are many migraine triggers out there. All I'm saying that if someone was eating a lower calorie/carb diet and complaining of headaches, my first response would not be "Check your preservatives - chemicals can cause headaches!" Most of the general population does not have these sensitivities.
More likely, OP is not used to a lower carb intake and may not be properly fueling her body. When I first started, I was not eating enough calories, which caused me to be hungry and gave me headaches. Which is why I asked about her intake.
And that's a perfectly valid suggestion. It gave you headaches, so perhaps it is also the cause of hers. Which is exactly what the other poster did.
Okay. That does not change the fact that most people are not sensitive to preservatives and that they are unlikely to be the cause of OP's headaches. Most people who have a fear of preservatives and claim to have reactions to them (other than people who have a genuine migraine trigger or allergy) only have "reactions" because they read somewhere that the chemical was bad. That poster's suggestion would not apply to the general population, which was what I was pointing out.
What science do you have to back up your statements? How many people are sensitive to preservatives? What are the odds that OP isn't? What are the odds of having a sensitivity that does not apply to the "general population"?
Having a "sensitivity" to something is already an abnormal situation, being that if MOST people were affected by something, it wouldn't really be considered a "sensitivity." It would be the norm.
If a food contains additives and is legally sold en masse to the population, then the additives were deemed safe by the FDA. Companies can't sell things that don't fit into the FDA guidelines. So, government conspiracy theories aside, if something is considered safe by the FDA to be consumed by the general public, then I would assume that it does not cause adverse reactions in most people.
And yes, the nocebo effect is real. People will indeed read some article about something completely benign and start believing that they have all sorts of adverse reactions to it because of something they read. Gluten and MSG are the big ones that come to mind, but there are junk science articles and blogs written about pretty much everything these days.
My point is, if the OP is in good health and does not have any allergies or sensitivities (which is possible but not very likely) then the sodium and preservatives in the occasional frozen meal are not likely to be the cause of her headaches after her workouts.
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.
Yes there are many migraine triggers out there. All I'm saying that if someone was eating a lower calorie/carb diet and complaining of headaches, my first response would not be "Check your preservatives - chemicals can cause headaches!" Most of the general population does not have these sensitivities.
More likely, OP is not used to a lower carb intake and may not be properly fueling her body. When I first started, I was not eating enough calories, which caused me to be hungry and gave me headaches. Which is why I asked about her intake.
And that's a perfectly valid suggestion. It gave you headaches, so perhaps it is also the cause of hers. Which is exactly what the other poster did.
Okay. That does not change the fact that most people are not sensitive to preservatives and that they are unlikely to be the cause of OP's headaches. Most people who have a fear of preservatives and claim to have reactions to them (other than people who have a genuine migraine trigger or allergy) only have "reactions" because they read somewhere that the chemical was bad. That poster's suggestion would not apply to the general population, which was what I was pointing out.
What science do you have to back up your statements? How many people are sensitive to preservatives? What are the odds that OP isn't? What are the odds of having a sensitivity that does not apply to the "general population"?
Having a "sensitivity" to something is already an abnormal situation, being that if MOST people were affected by something, it wouldn't really be considered a "sensitivity." It would be the norm.
If a food contains additives and is legally sold en masse to the population, then the additives were deemed safe by the FDA. Companies can't sell things that don't fit into the FDA guidelines. So, government conspiracy theories aside, if something is considered safe by the FDA to be consumed by the general public, then I would assume that it does not cause adverse reactions in most people.
And yes, the nocebo effect is real. People will indeed read some article about something completely benign and start believing that they have all sorts of adverse reactions to it because of something they read. Gluten and MSG are the big ones that come to mind, but there are junk science articles and blogs written about pretty much everything these days.
My point is, if the OP is in good health and does not have any allergies or sensitivities (which is possible but not very likely) then the sodium and preservatives in the occasional frozen meal are not likely to be the cause of her headaches after her workouts.
Foods don't have to be tested or considered safe by the FDA to be used in the US. They only have to be "generally recognized as safe". But "safe" has nothing to do with it. Bananas are "safe" but are also a common headache triggers.
I get it. You like to think others are being misled by the evil internet and "junk" science. I still think that is nonsense as a general rule. But, perhaps you are familiar with the poster to which you replied and know that they are prone to being misled.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.
Yes there are many migraine triggers out there. All I'm saying that if someone was eating a lower calorie/carb diet and complaining of headaches, my first response would not be "Check your preservatives - chemicals can cause headaches!" Most of the general population does not have these sensitivities.
More likely, OP is not used to a lower carb intake and may not be properly fueling her body. When I first started, I was not eating enough calories, which caused me to be hungry and gave me headaches. Which is why I asked about her intake.
And that's a perfectly valid suggestion. It gave you headaches, so perhaps it is also the cause of hers. Which is exactly what the other poster did.
Okay. That does not change the fact that most people are not sensitive to preservatives and that they are unlikely to be the cause of OP's headaches. Most people who have a fear of preservatives and claim to have reactions to them (other than people who have a genuine migraine trigger or allergy) only have "reactions" because they read somewhere that the chemical was bad. That poster's suggestion would not apply to the general population, which was what I was pointing out.
What science do you have to back up your statements? How many people are sensitive to preservatives? What are the odds that OP isn't? What are the odds of having a sensitivity that does not apply to the "general population"?
Having a "sensitivity" to something is already an abnormal situation, being that if MOST people were affected by something, it wouldn't really be considered a "sensitivity." It would be the norm.
If a food contains additives and is legally sold en masse to the population, then the additives were deemed safe by the FDA. Companies can't sell things that don't fit into the FDA guidelines. So, government conspiracy theories aside, if something is considered safe by the FDA to be consumed by the general public, then I would assume that it does not cause adverse reactions in most people.
And yes, the nocebo effect is real. People will indeed read some article about something completely benign and start believing that they have all sorts of adverse reactions to it because of something they read. Gluten and MSG are the big ones that come to mind, but there are junk science articles and blogs written about pretty much everything these days.
My point is, if the OP is in good health and does not have any allergies or sensitivities (which is possible but not very likely) then the sodium and preservatives in the occasional frozen meal are not likely to be the cause of her headaches after her workouts.
Foods don't have to be tested or considered safe by the FDA to be used in the US. They only have to be "generally recognized as safe". But "safe" has nothing to do with it. Bananas are "safe" but are also a common headache triggers.
I get it. You like to think others are being misled by the evil internet and "junk" science. I still think that is nonsense as a general rule. But, perhaps you are familiar with the poster to which you replied and know that they are prone to being misled.
Agree to disagree I suppose. I think it's important to point out misinformation, and hanging out on these forums has made me cynical. A lot of fear-mongering does take place on here, and it is probably more helpful for OP to focus on the more likely causes of her headaches.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.
Yes there are many migraine triggers out there. All I'm saying that if someone was eating a lower calorie/carb diet and complaining of headaches, my first response would not be "Check your preservatives - chemicals can cause headaches!" Most of the general population does not have these sensitivities.
More likely, OP is not used to a lower carb intake and may not be properly fueling her body. When I first started, I was not eating enough calories, which caused me to be hungry and gave me headaches. Which is why I asked about her intake.
And that's a perfectly valid suggestion. It gave you headaches, so perhaps it is also the cause of hers. Which is exactly what the other poster did.
Okay. That does not change the fact that most people are not sensitive to preservatives and that they are unlikely to be the cause of OP's headaches. Most people who have a fear of preservatives and claim to have reactions to them (other than people who have a genuine migraine trigger or allergy) only have "reactions" because they read somewhere that the chemical was bad. That poster's suggestion would not apply to the general population, which was what I was pointing out.
What science do you have to back up your statements? How many people are sensitive to preservatives? What are the odds that OP isn't? What are the odds of having a sensitivity that does not apply to the "general population"?
Having a "sensitivity" to something is already an abnormal situation, being that if MOST people were affected by something, it wouldn't really be considered a "sensitivity." It would be the norm.
If a food contains additives and is legally sold en masse to the population, then the additives were deemed safe by the FDA. Companies can't sell things that don't fit into the FDA guidelines. So, government conspiracy theories aside, if something is considered safe by the FDA to be consumed by the general public, then I would assume that it does not cause adverse reactions in most people.
And yes, the nocebo effect is real. People will indeed read some article about something completely benign and start believing that they have all sorts of adverse reactions to it because of something they read. Gluten and MSG are the big ones that come to mind, but there are junk science articles and blogs written about pretty much everything these days.
My point is, if the OP is in good health and does not have any allergies or sensitivities (which is possible but not very likely) then the sodium and preservatives in the occasional frozen meal are not likely to be the cause of her headaches after her workouts.
Foods don't have to be tested or considered safe by the FDA to be used in the US. They only have to be "generally recognized as safe". But "safe" has nothing to do with it. Bananas are "safe" but are also a common headache triggers.
I get it. You like to think others are being misled by the evil internet and "junk" science. I still think that is nonsense as a general rule. But, perhaps you are familiar with the poster to which you replied and know that they are prone to being misled.
Agree to disagree I suppose. I think it's important to point out misinformation, and hanging out on these forums has made me cynical. A lot of fear-mongering does take place on here, and it is probably more helpful for OP to focus on the more likely causes of her headaches.
More helpful if it turns out to be a popular cause. Lots of headaches if it turns out to be a less popular cause.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »margolinville wrote: »dhiggins210 wrote: »I recently got back into an exercise routine and using FP to watch my calories. Each afternoon, around 2:00, I get a HORRIBLE headache! I drink PLENTY of water during the day, but can't figure out what is causing these headaches. Any suggestions/remedies? Thank you!
Are you eating frozen dinners! High salt and preservatives gives me headaches! I never eat processed foods from the freezer section!
This is more likely a placebo effect of sorts. Salt and preservatives in "processed" foods will not actually give you headaches. There is no science to back this up, only fear-mongering broscience.
This is nonsense. Had the suggestion been that processed frozen foods give everyone headaches, then it might make some sense. But one does not need a scientific study to know what triggers a headache on a personal level. Trial and error is all that is needed.
OP is highly unlikely to be experiencing headaches due to "processed" foods. You can develop an allergy to anything, but most of the time, people read some junk science that an ingredient is "bad" and then suddenly start having reactions to it. This is a nocebo effect. It happens all the time (MSG, gluten, electromagnetic waves, microwaves, etc.).
Again, nonsense. All sorts of things can trigger headaches.
Yes there are many migraine triggers out there. All I'm saying that if someone was eating a lower calorie/carb diet and complaining of headaches, my first response would not be "Check your preservatives - chemicals can cause headaches!" Most of the general population does not have these sensitivities.
More likely, OP is not used to a lower carb intake and may not be properly fueling her body. When I first started, I was not eating enough calories, which caused me to be hungry and gave me headaches. Which is why I asked about her intake.
And that's a perfectly valid suggestion. It gave you headaches, so perhaps it is also the cause of hers. Which is exactly what the other poster did.
Okay. That does not change the fact that most people are not sensitive to preservatives and that they are unlikely to be the cause of OP's headaches. Most people who have a fear of preservatives and claim to have reactions to them (other than people who have a genuine migraine trigger or allergy) only have "reactions" because they read somewhere that the chemical was bad. That poster's suggestion would not apply to the general population, which was what I was pointing out.
What science do you have to back up your statements? How many people are sensitive to preservatives? What are the odds that OP isn't? What are the odds of having a sensitivity that does not apply to the "general population"?
Having a "sensitivity" to something is already an abnormal situation, being that if MOST people were affected by something, it wouldn't really be considered a "sensitivity." It would be the norm.
If a food contains additives and is legally sold en masse to the population, then the additives were deemed safe by the FDA. Companies can't sell things that don't fit into the FDA guidelines. So, government conspiracy theories aside, if something is considered safe by the FDA to be consumed by the general public, then I would assume that it does not cause adverse reactions in most people.
And yes, the nocebo effect is real. People will indeed read some article about something completely benign and start believing that they have all sorts of adverse reactions to it because of something they read. Gluten and MSG are the big ones that come to mind, but there are junk science articles and blogs written about pretty much everything these days.
My point is, if the OP is in good health and does not have any allergies or sensitivities (which is possible but not very likely) then the sodium and preservatives in the occasional frozen meal are not likely to be the cause of her headaches after her workouts.
Given how long it took for trans fats to be taken off the GRAS list, I would not assume this at all.0 -
Certain foods give me headaches/migranes. Your diary isn't open so I could only suggest it could possibly be that in changing your diet you have introduced more tyramine contains foods. I can tolerate some, but past a threshold I get horrid headaches.
Some typical tyramine foods are:
Packaged meats
Aged cheese
Avacado
Nuts & seeds
Over ripe bananas
Chocolate
Tyramine is a break down of tyrosine, an amino acid. There is a more comprehensive list on the internet. These are most of the ones I have to watch. Good luck.
It's possible you could be triggering a migraine based on the regularity of your headaches. Do you have a history?0 -
I had headaches when I started cutting back on calories. They went away in less than a week. I couldn't find any reason, other than that I had drastically cut back the amount of food I was eating. Maybe with a little time, your body will adjust too.0
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Thanks so much for sharing! I am hoping my body is just adjusting! It's always good to hear from someone that had the same expeience0
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Make sure you are eating enough. Try eating a little snack before and after your workout.
I get headaches from not eating enough, as well as fatigue.0
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