Elliptical or Rower
MatthewL3382
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This may be beating a dead horse but I will ask anyway. My goal is to lose 50+ lbs. I have a stationary recumbent bike and it can get boring at times. Between an elliptical and a rower which would y'all recommended to burn maximum calories? Thanks in advance.
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eating less...shape your body later when you slimmer.0
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Are you asking because you are purchasing a machine? Or are you going to a facility where you have a choice? I alternate between 2-3 different cardio machines weekly so I don't get into a complacent rut AND to work different parts of my body.0
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hastingsmassage wrote: »eating less...shape your body later when you slimmer.
Strength training should start NOW.
However the question was about cardio machines.
Cardio makes you a smaller version of your current shape, lifting really transforms your shape.
OP, if you're buying one for your home, I vote rower because I hate ellipticals.
If you're going to a gym and have access to both, try them out. Switch between them
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"An elliptical burns slightly more calories per hour than a rowing machine, according to the Harvard School of Public Health"
http://woman.thenest.com/rowing-machine-vs-elliptical-trainer-1359.html
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Pick the one you won't get bored with and will keep using.0
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If you are purchasing, think carefully about which motion you would prefer to do nearly every day, rowing or stepping. Calorie burns on a machine can be altered with intensity/duration.0
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Engaging the largest amount of muscle mass consumes the most calories. This leans in favor of the elliptical. It's not just using it, but how you use it that will provide the biggest calorie burn. Look up "intervals". The biggest part in any weight loss will be in burning more calories than you eat.0
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I tend to favor the rowing machine. Like the above link discusses, it uses more of your body. I don't know what your experience has been, but there have been times when, while using an elliptical, my hands were really just along for the ride while my lower body did the work. On a rowing machine, the upper / mid / lower body motions are distinct, making it easier to make sure everything's doing its share.
In doing this, it can also help develop more muscles, which can give you a little boost as far as LBM that burns calories outside of exercise. (The muscles used also include upper body ones that can contribute to the "V" form often sought after in male physiques. It's far from my motivation for using a rower, but it's an appreciated side-effect.)
Also, when I got to a point I was looking to equip my home gym, I went with a rowing machine because it could fold up and occupy less space when not in use without losing much in the way of performance. The only thing that had to be "foldable" was the beam that does nothing except provide the track the seat rolls on. I don't know if ellipticals can fold up without having to alter the design of important moving / working parts.
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This article might help you make a decision.
http://woman.thenest.com/rowing-machine-vs-elliptical-trainer-1359.html0 -
I have a Weider home gym (with a weighted rowing option) and an elliptical machine. I use both - alternate days. As someone above said - I get very little in the way of arms with the elliptical. I get a LOT of upper back, core and arm workout with the rowing, but then it's weighted. The elliptical is very cardio oriented - the rower in my case, at least, is more strength oriented.0
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lishie_rebooted wrote: »hastingsmassage wrote: »eating less...shape your body later when you slimmer.
Strength training should start NOW.
However the question was about cardio machines.
Cardio makes you a smaller version of your current shape, lifting really transforms your shape.
OP, if you're buying one for your home, I vote rower because I hate ellipticals.
If you're going to a gym and have access to both, try them out. Switch between them
^^This.
If you're spending money it'd be better spent on a set of weights.0 -
I have both & like both but if you get bored easily I'd go with the elliptical. When you row you'll either do an aerobic or anaerobic workout but the motion is the same. With an elliptical you can pedal forwards, backwards, at an incline, go hands free & do partial squats and/or oblique twists, hold hand weights.
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I have a Water Rower and an elyptical. I use the elyptical for cardio. I use the Water Rower as a mix with other exercises.
I read Concept has some good rowers that may be better suited for cardio.0 -
I vote rowing ergometer. It is not purely cardio, and if done correctly will burn way more calories than an elliptical.
That Harvard School of Public Health link, if you read the whole article, the key line is actually ...
"Because of the increased muscle use necessary for rowing, your metabolism will stay elevated longer after your workout, resulting in a higher post-workout calorie burn."
So, I would say get a Concept II for home (it will come with some workouts and pictures for how to use it properly) or use one at a gym - but be sure to have someone who has actually rowed show you how to use it. Once you get the motion and rhythm correct it'll all be good. Don't be one of those people heaving and yanking on the handle with the tension cranked to 10 and then letting it pull them back to the catch position so they fly up the slide at warp speed. Aaaaaaaa!!!!! If you want to do the deadlift, go get a bar bell.0 -
I have a Sole E25 elliptical at my house for a quick cardio workout when I don't feel like going to the gym. I typically use the rower (Concept 2) and treadmill when I go to the gym for a cardio workout, but get more of strength workout on the rower than the treadmill. I like that I can adjust incline, resistance level, go backwards to hit different muscles, and work my arms on my elliptical.
I think the bigger selling point for me on the elliptical versus the rower is that I can set my tablet on the elliptical and watch movies or read while I workout, whereas on the rower I can't do this and I get bored fairly quickly! That may be something worth considering.0 -
Your burn is going to be largely a bi-product of time and intensity, not what machine or exercise you are doing. Personally I would opt for a rower though...because it seems less boring.0
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Yeah, doesn't really matter, tbh. It's up to you. Calorie burn will be a function of how hard you're working for the most part and will probably vary greatly. I wouldn't get hung up too much on which is infinitesimally better and instead figure out what one you will keep doing.
I vote for the strength training starting ASAP and shaking up your cardio routine so you don't get bored or feel in a rut, but that's just me.0 -
I use the elliptical when I'm dragging and not up to a more strenuous machine. I use the rower when I'm feeling strong and can handle it. IOW, a rower kicks my butt and an elliptical doesn't.0
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I personally prefer the rower, to change it up i do different exercises (always on 10 resistance) and aim for 200m in less than 40 seconds, 500m in less than 2 minutes or 1000m in less than 4 minutes as i always need a goal to aim for i can't just row mindlessly for 10 minutes.0
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I like the rower, too. Though, I use it to warm up before I lift (since ours is also weighted), not as my main form of cardio.
The one at my gym has games on it, basically on the technological level of Frogger or Snake, but still pretty entertaining. Plus, I get to pretend I'm Francis Underwood (House of Cards, anyone?).0 -
I like them both and tend to alternate between them. I echo @sheldonklein in that I often go for the elliptical when I'm not quite up to the rower. The rowing machine totally kicks my butt. On the other hand I can do the elliptical for longer time periods: 40-60 mins vs 20-30 on the rower.
I think the rower is much more boringer than the elliptical personally. I also don't like it that I'm not free to use my hands as needed to scratch, or wipe sweat, or whatever on the rower.0 -
Ah, see, I'm not one who wants to be distracted when I'm exercising. I want to focus on my exercise and put all my effort into it. Watching a movie is for kicking back, not kicking butt, for me.0
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On my strictly cardio days, I do an hour on the rower. It is the best full body cardio machine I have found. I like the eliptical but nothing beats the rower in my opinion. When done correctly your caloric burn is huge and you can feel your arms, core and legs get an amazing workout. Just put your headphones in, turn the music up and do it. I don't go to the gym for entertainment, I go to "leave it all there".0
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I've owned an elliptical, treadmill, and a rower (all at separate times). After about 2 months, both the treadmill and elliptical machines were basically expensive coat racks. Don't get me wrong, they are both fantastic machines, they just didn't hold my interest. The rower (Concept2), on the other hand, holds my interest (it's fun, IMO) and the results have proven to be very rewarding (for me). With the exception of a 3 week (out of town) vacation, I've been rowing on a regular basis since late August.
Why I like the rower over the treadmill and elliptical:- The rower REQUIRES the use of my arms AND legs. Because of this, I am seeing results all over my body, not just the upper or lower. I have noticeable muscles in my biceps for the first time ever, too.
- The "breeze" felt when moving backward and forward is quite rewarding once I start building up a sweat. Also, the air doesn't seem to get stale.
- I burn more calories on the rower than I did on the others--according to my HRM, I currently average about 660 calories per hour.
I've lost nearly 40 pounds since late August due to a combination of diet (calorie deficit) and exercise (mostly rowing). I think it would benefit you to visit a gym and try out the machines that interest you before you purchase anything. Good luck!
Not that it's a big deal, but an HRM will likely overestimate calorie burn on a rower. You might want to try the calculator on the C 2 website as a comparison. Since you are losing weight, it doesn't mean that much, but if you are interested in the numbers it might be useful.
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The min thing about rowing is that it is a different form of exercise and it takes a little more time and skill to master the technique and to develop the muscle endurance to make it most effective. In other words, if you want to row, you have to WANT to row. It's like swimming in that regard.
Because of that, I am always reluctant to push rowing on someone who has never tried it before. Rowing is a great exercise, but I am always more concerned with long-term adherence than esoteric arguments about which type of exercise is "better".
One thing I will say is that financially, rowing is a much better choice IMO. For around $1300, you can get the finest machines made (either Concept 2or Water Rower). You will struggle to find an elliptical in the same price range that is anywhere near the same quality.0 -
MatthewL3382 wrote: »This may be beating a dead horse but I will ask anyway. My goal is to lose 50+ lbs. I have a stationary recumbent bike and it can get boring at times. Between an elliptical and a rower which would y'all recommended to burn maximum calories? Thanks in advance.
If you want to lose 50 pounds, then your best best is really not to get either one. Use that money and space to get a bench and some dumbells. That way you can preserve your lean body mass while burning fat.
If your stationary bike is getting boring, then both the elliptical and rower will be probably get boring pretty soon too. Try to vary your exercise routine on the bike. Do HIIT some days on it, while doing longer moderate paces on other days. Or set up an Xbox in front of the bike and play some games while pedaling.
Or even better, start exercising outside.0 -
The min thing about rowing is that it is a different form of exercise and it takes a little more time and skill to master the technique and to develop the muscle endurance to make it most effective. In other words, if you want to row, you have to WANT to row. It's like swimming in that regard.
Because of that, I am always reluctant to push rowing on someone who has never tried it before. Rowing is a great exercise, but I am always more concerned with long-term adherence than esoteric arguments about which type of exercise is "better".
One thing I will say is that financially, rowing is a much better choice IMO. For around $1300, you can get the finest machines made (either Concept 2or Water Rower). You will struggle to find an elliptical in the same price range that is anywhere near the same quality.
Perfectly stated in my opinion.
Not that it matters but I use a Concept 2 rower 4 days/week and offset with a treadmill for running + high intensity walking 3 days/week. Sprinkling in some simple weight exercises, and I've found my favorite combo that works for me.0 -
I have a Sole E25 elliptical at my house for a quick cardio workout when I don't feel like going to the gym. I typically use the rower (Concept 2) and treadmill when I go to the gym for a cardio workout, but get more of strength workout on the rower than the treadmill. I like that I can adjust incline, resistance level, go backwards to hit different muscles, and work my arms on my elliptical.
I think the bigger selling point for me on the elliptical versus the rower is that I can set my tablet on the elliptical and watch movies or read while I workout, whereas on the rower I can't do this and I get bored fairly quickly! That may be something worth considering.
I imagine that an iPad mount could be fixed to the arm the performance monitor is attached to if someone wanted to watch movies or read on their iPad while rowing
It doesn't help for reading (which you can't really do unless you're willing to pause or learn how to row one-handed so you can turn the pages), but for TV / Movies, I just use a regular iPad stand and set it on the floor to one side. Sure, it might not be as convenient as having the TV right in front of me, but it's a no-modifications-necessary solution.
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Thank you for all the replies. I've decided if I purchase one of these it will be an elliptical. I've noticed a few comments about weight training. I do have several dumbbells and free weights. My goal is to lose weight here so am I best to do a full body weight training session twice a week or what? A few years back I was wanting to get stronger so I only did each muscle once a week. I also know that what I want will require less weight with more reps. I just need opinions on frequency to burn this fat and drop the lbs. Thanks again.0
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If you already have a bike, no injuries, rower, hands down.
(I'm no expert on the mechanics or technique, just prefer it. Easier to get into a kind of meditative zone, good headspace to be in. But maybe headspace is not your main criterion. So another reason: most ellipticals just feel awkward.)0
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