Paleo Diet
brieannaspencer
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All my coworkers at Abercrombie tried to do the Paleo diet and saw results , does anyone know how to do this right? I know it's a diet based on high protein, eating only meats nd veg bt does anyone have any tips???
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That type of diet is only good if it's something you plan on always following. It's very restrictive0
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No two people will have the same answer. And just to mention the low carb aspect has been popularized because low carb is in fashion but the actual micronutrient breakdown of H-G'ers is as varied as the different latitudes suggest it might be. Basically paleo being a low carb diet is a popular trend not based on science.0
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I tried it for awhile, I will admit that I did feel better. Mainly you cut out everything processed which is probably why I felt better.
Although I only did 80/20 Paleo. Creamer in my coffee is just NOT getting cut out of my life. Plus the cutting out of "legumes". I had a hard time with that.0 -
Every single person doing paleo is doing 'their own version of it' which is because it's nearly impossible to follow. It's a restrictive diet. You will eliminate grains, dairy, legumes (beans and some nuts), anything "processed"...
I went to a bbq last summer and met someone who was paleo. She ate a burger patty with lettuce and tomato on a plate and literally couldn't have anything else at the table (salads, mustard, ketchup, chips). Sounds like something that is super fun and sustainable... lol
People lose weight doing paleo because they create a deficit by not being able to eat certain things. Just create a deficit while eating the things you want to eat instead.0 -
If you are interested, the best source of informations is to read it starts with food, and Nom Nom Paleo - my favorite food blog on the web (I'm actually meeting Michelle Tam of Nom Nom Paleo today).
- The important thing to remember is that it's not actually supposed to be low carb exclusively. You can eat low carb and higher fat and protein, but you can also have potatoes and other carb heavy vegetables to balance out the macros. The big thing is making sure to have good quality ingredients. Responsibly raised and slaughtered meat as well as good quality produce
Also, with any eating plan, you have to tailor it to fit you. This works for me because I have a lot of trigger foods that contain wheat. I don't like to eat dairy, and beans and legumes make me feel kind of awful when I eat them. Some eat dairy and beans, but no wheat. I do have the occasional pizza and beer day (beer more regular than pizza) but it's easier to keep it moderate now.
A lot of people will say that Paleo isn't necessary, and for many it isn't. But it works really well for me, and the community is fantastic and supportive. Make a decision by reading the material and seeing if it works for you. Happy hunting!0 -
It's another fad diet based on false assumptions. If you restrict calories in and burn more then you loose weight. http://www.amazon.com/Diet-Cults-Surprising-Fallacy-Nutrition/dp/16059856000
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Let's just get this out of the way:
- It's a badly named diet as it has nothing to do with how people in the paleolithic area ate.
- It can be somewhat restrictive; some people are fine with the restrictions, others can't deal.
- Some of the restrictions are based on some very strange science that isn't necessarily well supported. (And it often changes. White potatoes were bad, but now limited amounts of raw white potatoes - or a supplement of the starch from them - is recommended.)
That said, it's not a bad way to eat. It focuses on nutrient dense, whole foods which are often recommended for most diets. And many people follow the diet only 80% or 90% of the time, which actually makes their diet appear very similar to people who suggest moderation of all foods that fit into your macros. (The biggest argument seems to be "why bother giving your diet a name if you basically eat the same thing as me".)
I'd suggest trying it out and seeing if you enjoy it. If you struggle, then it will likely not be sustainable for you. There are tons of websites on what to eat, but as someone else pointed out, there are tons of variations of the diet, so just pick something you think will work for you and give it a try. The majors seem to be don't eat legumes (peanuts, beans, etc), processed food (good luck defining that), and dairy (unless you're following primal instead of paleo).
(As a side note, don't do what I did and throw away everything in your house that isn't paleo. I ended up not liking the diet because it was too restrictive, and I had to go rebuy a lot of condiments and sauces which was a little pricey.)0 -
I would read some articles about it and then decide if it sounds like something that is doable for you. I tried paleo about 2 years ago, it was very restrictive (and I was worried about cholesterol intake with all the eggs and red meat) but it made me try cooking foods in new ways, and different recipes which I am very thankful for. I had never cooked with coconut milk before and now its one of my go to ingredients.0
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Let's just get this out of the way:
- It's a badly named diet as it has nothing to do with how people in the paleolithic area ate.
- It can be somewhat restrictive; some people are fine with the restrictions, others can't deal.
- Some of the restrictions are based on some very strange science that isn't necessarily well supported. (And it often changes. White potatoes were bad, but now limited amounts of raw white potatoes - or a supplement of the starch from them - is recommended.)
That said, it's not a bad way to eat. It focuses on nutrient dense, whole foods which are often recommended for most diets. And many people follow the diet only 80% or 90% of the time, which actually makes their diet appear very similar to people who suggest moderation of all foods that fit into your macros. (The biggest argument seems to be "why bother giving your diet a name if you basically eat the same thing as me".)
I'd suggest trying it out and seeing if you enjoy it. If you struggle, then it will likely not be sustainable for you. There are tons of websites on what to eat, but as someone else pointed out, there are tons of variations of the diet, so just pick something you think will work for you and give it a try. The majors seem to be don't eat legumes (peanuts, beans, etc), processed food (good luck defining that), and dairy (unless you're following primal instead of paleo).
(As a side note, don't do what I did and throw away everything in your house that isn't paleo. I ended up not liking the diet because it was too restrictive, and I had to go rebuy a lot of condiments and sauces which was a little pricey.)
^All of this.
For as many people saying they do paleo, I don't think any two of them are doing it the same way.
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Let's just get this out of the way:
- It's a badly named diet as it has nothing to do with how people in the paleolithic area ate.
- It can be somewhat restrictive; some people are fine with the restrictions, others can't deal.
- Some of the restrictions are based on some very strange science that isn't necessarily well supported. (And it often changes. White potatoes were bad, but now limited amounts of raw white potatoes - or a supplement of the starch from them - is recommended.)
That said, it's not a bad way to eat. It focuses on nutrient dense, whole foods which are often recommended for most diets. And many people follow the diet only 80% or 90% of the time, which actually makes their diet appear very similar to people who suggest moderation of all foods that fit into your macros. (The biggest argument seems to be "why bother giving your diet a name if you basically eat the same thing as me".)
I'd suggest trying it out and seeing if you enjoy it. If you struggle, then it will likely not be sustainable for you. There are tons of websites on what to eat, but as someone else pointed out, there are tons of variations of the diet, so just pick something you think will work for you and give it a try. The majors seem to be don't eat legumes (peanuts, beans, etc), processed food (good luck defining that), and dairy (unless you're following primal instead of paleo).
(As a side note, don't do what I did and throw away everything in your house that isn't paleo. I ended up not liking the diet because it was too restrictive, and I had to go rebuy a lot of condiments and sauces which was a little pricey.)
*insert goofy applause gif I'm too lazy to go find here*
The science is shaky and some people treat it too much like a religion instead of guidelines for healthy eating, but Paleo is still destined to end better than the low fat processed foods craze. Well unless and until the federal gov cuts meat subsidies. In which case we'll all be following the revolution diet anyway. You can take American's freedoms, but you won't take our steaks!
Or unless you get bitten by a lone star tick and develop a meat allergy. In which case I guess you can eat paleo-sort-of-vegetarian. Those things are evil little bloodsuckers!0 -
neanderthin wrote: »No two people will have the same answer. And just to mention the low carb aspect has been popularized because low carb is in fashion but the actual micronutrient breakdown of H-G'ers is as varied as the different latitudes suggest it might be. Basically paleo being a low carb diet is a popular trend not based on science.
What do you mean "not based on science" ? Science says Paleolithic man was extraordinarily healthy without grains.... When he wasn't starving, diseased, or dead by 36. You would also think a paleo style life should include working your hands raw for every morsel of food and dealing with broken bones by simply dying.0 -
neanderthin wrote: »No two people will have the same answer. And just to mention the low carb aspect has been popularized because low carb is in fashion but the actual micronutrient breakdown of H-G'ers is as varied as the different latitudes suggest it might be. Basically paleo being a low carb diet is a popular trend not based on science.
What do you mean "not based on science" ? Science says Paleolithic man was extraordinarily healthy without grains.... When he wasn't starving, diseased, or dead by 36. You would also think a paleo style life should include working your hands raw for every morsel of food and dealing with broken bones by simply dying.
You can get carbs from other sources than grains. Game animals are relatively lean and hard to catch. Even among modern H-G tribes the macros vary the Tukisenta's eating huge amounts of carbs, or the Kitavans (69% carb diet), or the Hadza (lots of honey, fruit, animal products) or the Kung San (moderate carbs with lots of nuts), or the Ewe Tribe (who eat a diet of basically NOTHING BUT insulin-spiking carbs ... literaly 98% of the diet).0 -
neanderthin wrote: »No two people will have the same answer. And just to mention the low carb aspect has been popularized because low carb is in fashion but the actual micronutrient breakdown of H-G'ers is as varied as the different latitudes suggest it might be. Basically paleo being a low carb diet is a popular trend not based on science.
What do you mean "not based on science" ? Science says Paleolithic man was extraordinarily healthy without grains.... When he wasn't starving, diseased, or dead by 36. You would also think a paleo style life should include working your hands raw for every morsel of food and dealing with broken bones by simply dying.
Paleolithic man ate grains. There's some science for you...0 -
I more or less follow it...and it's worked for me.0
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I did it for two years and dropped over 50 lbs in a hurry. I was THIN, but I felt good, slept well, and had a lot of my allergies clear up. Then I got divorced and decided that I didn't want to sustain that any more. I gained 30 lbs back, and my allergies returned. I tried it again recently, and had no results. Not a pound lost, nothing got better sleep or allergy wise. Not sure what was different this time, but I'm having more success with moderation and counting calories.0
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neanderthin wrote: »No two people will have the same answer. And just to mention the low carb aspect has been popularized because low carb is in fashion but the actual micronutrient breakdown of H-G'ers is as varied as the different latitudes suggest it might be. Basically paleo being a low carb diet is a popular trend not based on science.
What do you mean "not based on science" ? Science says Paleolithic man was extraordinarily healthy without grains.... When he wasn't starving, diseased, or dead by 36. You would also think a paleo style life should include working your hands raw for every morsel of food and dealing with broken bones by simply dying.
You can get carbs from other sources than grains. Game animals are relatively lean and hard to catch. Even among modern H-G tribes the macros vary the Tukisenta's eating huge amounts of carbs, or the Kitavans (69% carb diet), or the Hadza (lots of honey, fruit, animal products) or the Kung San (moderate carbs with lots of nuts), or the Ewe Tribe (who eat a diet of basically NOTHING BUT insulin-spiking carbs ... literaly 98% of the diet).
Thank you, it saves me my Kitavan analogy. Not to mention just because something was eaten rarely or never doesn't automatically result in declining health when consumed.....critical thinking has gone critical.0 -
Basically no grains and no dairy and no legumes.0
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When he wasn't starving, diseased, or dead by 36.neanderthin wrote: »No two people will have the same answer. And just to mention the low carb aspect has been popularized because low carb is in fashion but the actual micronutrient breakdown of H-G'ers is as varied as the different latitudes suggest it might be. Basically paleo being a low carb diet is a popular trend not based on science.
Yeah...that's the part that always has me SMH. Let's all go back to those wonderful, nostalgic paleolithic days!
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I felt like crap when I did it, but then again, I work a job that is physically demanding. I just needed the carbs.0
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My sister follows a "variation" of it but really all she's done is taken out dairy and most gluten. The dairy makes sense for her because she's very, very lactose intolerant and has always gotten sick trying to eat it...but I wouldn't say that means Paleo is a success for everyone so much as it forced her to stop eating things that make her feel like crap, haha. Supposedly the gluten free part makes her glowing and wonderful as well but I took a bit too much biochemistry and metabolic nutrition in undergrad to bother debating it...if it makes her feel good, great. So that's my advice to you. If you don't find it too restrictive and you LIKE it and can afford it (it's an expensive diet), I mean, go for it?
But I tolerate dairy and wheat just fine and they taste delicious so you can pry my ice cream and bread from my cold dead hands.0 -
Anything will work as long as you stay within your CICO and don't have a medical condition.0
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I think it's an awesome diet. I just got my physical done yesterday and I will be posting my last three years of results this weekend in graph form plus numbers - the doctor basically used words like "amazing" and "continue to do what you are doing" and I transformed into a Paleo diet within the past year. Not only have I dumped 50 pounds of pure fat, but the numbers are incredible to boot.
My numbers below were horrible before my test yesterday. I was borderline Type II and was close to being on cholesterol medication. The Western Diet is a complete and utter failure. Many people on here purport one can eat whatever they want and just let CICO rule - well that isn't necessarily true.
Raw Numbers (9 months after last physical exam):
CHOLESTEROL 100 - 199 mg/dL: 129
TRIGLYCERIDE 10 - 149 mg/dL: 44
HDL 40 - 59 mg/dL: 62
CHOL/HDL RATIO 2.0 - 5.0: 2.1
LDL CALCULATED <=99 mg/dL: 58
Last two tests - Cholesterol was close to 200 and HDL was below 35.
I am 80/20 Paleo with movement to almost 100%. The only thing I do take issue with is some dairy. I eat non-GMO grass-fed cow whole yogurt. Beyond that, I have killed legumes and grains. I don't miss it one bit. I eat lean meats, veggies, and fruit. I have now ordered Paleo-certified protein and preworkout stuff from www.mynaturalforce.com. They are the only ones in the industry apparently that received the certification from the Paleo Foundation.
I believe in it and the numbers prove it. My doctor yesterday was so ecstatic to see me after several months - she sees the difference physically, my BMI is in normal range now (weighed in at exactly 170# which was my goal starting March 1st last year) and obviously the numbers prove beyond any doubt that this kind of diet regimen over the long run works.0 -
tedboosalis7 wrote: »I think it's an awesome diet. I just got my physical done yesterday and I will be posting my last three years of results this weekend in graph form plus numbers - the doctor basically used words like "amazing" and "continue to do what you are doing" and I transformed into a Paleo diet within the past year. Not only have I dumped 50 pounds of pure fat, but the numbers are incredible to boot.
My numbers below were horrible before my test yesterday. I was borderline Type II and was close to being on cholesterol medication. The Western Diet is a complete and utter failure. Many people on here purport one can eat whatever they want and just let CICO rule - well that isn't necessarily true.
Raw Numbers (9 months after last physical exam):
CHOLESTEROL 100 - 199 mg/dL: 129
TRIGLYCERIDE 10 - 149 mg/dL: 44
HDL 40 - 59 mg/dL: 62
CHOL/HDL RATIO 2.0 - 5.0: 2.1
LDL CALCULATED <=99 mg/dL: 58
Last two tests - Cholesterol was close to 200 and HDL was below 35.
I am 80/20 Paleo with movement to almost 100%. The only thing I do take issue with is some dairy. I eat non-GMO grass-fed cow whole yogurt. Beyond that, I have killed legumes and grains. I don't miss it one bit. I eat lean meats, veggies, and fruit. I have now ordered Paleo-certified protein and preworkout stuff from www.mynaturalforce.com. They are the only ones in the industry apparently that received the certification from the Paleo Foundation.
I believe in it and the numbers prove it. My doctor yesterday was so ecstatic to see me after several months - she sees the difference physically, my BMI is in normal range now (weighed in at exactly 170# which was my goal starting March 1st last year) and obviously the numbers prove beyond any doubt that this kind of diet regimen over the long run works.
Nice work, those are good numbers.
Just to mention though, when people say CICO, they're referring to weight loss and not health, don't really understand the confusion there but anyway, I changed by diet about 6 yrs ago to a lower carb diet and I eat mostly whole foods, but not paleo in the least. My HDL went from the high 60's which was good anyway to just over 100 and my LDL is just under 90, which interestingly enough, many Dr's would want to medicate me with those high numbers, weird but true. The drastic drop for me was my trigs, it went from 170ish to the 30's.
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neanderthin wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »I think it's an awesome diet. I just got my physical done yesterday and I will be posting my last three years of results this weekend in graph form plus numbers - the doctor basically used words like "amazing" and "continue to do what you are doing" and I transformed into a Paleo diet within the past year. Not only have I dumped 50 pounds of pure fat, but the numbers are incredible to boot.
My numbers below were horrible before my test yesterday. I was borderline Type II and was close to being on cholesterol medication. The Western Diet is a complete and utter failure. Many people on here purport one can eat whatever they want and just let CICO rule - well that isn't necessarily true.
Raw Numbers (9 months after last physical exam):
CHOLESTEROL 100 - 199 mg/dL: 129
TRIGLYCERIDE 10 - 149 mg/dL: 44
HDL 40 - 59 mg/dL: 62
CHOL/HDL RATIO 2.0 - 5.0: 2.1
LDL CALCULATED <=99 mg/dL: 58
Last two tests - Cholesterol was close to 200 and HDL was below 35.
I am 80/20 Paleo with movement to almost 100%. The only thing I do take issue with is some dairy. I eat non-GMO grass-fed cow whole yogurt. Beyond that, I have killed legumes and grains. I don't miss it one bit. I eat lean meats, veggies, and fruit. I have now ordered Paleo-certified protein and preworkout stuff from www.mynaturalforce.com. They are the only ones in the industry apparently that received the certification from the Paleo Foundation.
I believe in it and the numbers prove it. My doctor yesterday was so ecstatic to see me after several months - she sees the difference physically, my BMI is in normal range now (weighed in at exactly 170# which was my goal starting March 1st last year) and obviously the numbers prove beyond any doubt that this kind of diet regimen over the long run works.
Nice work, those are good numbers.
Just to mention though, when people say CICO, they're referring to weight loss and not health, don't really understand the confusion there but anyway, I changed by diet about 6 yrs ago to a lower carb diet and I eat mostly whole foods, but not paleo in the least. My HDL went from the high 60's which was good anyway to just over 100 and my LDL is just under 90, which interestingly enough, many Dr's would want to medicate me with those high numbers, weird but true. The drastic drop for me was my trigs, it went from 170ish to the 30's.
Wow that is truly awesome! Very very impressive. Yeah there's no reason to medicate if your levels are ratio-wise congruent - it shouldn't matter in my eyes.
On the CICO comment - this is a CICO-based site - I had to throw it in because there's a lot of misleading information on here about what kind of diet truly works over the long run for weight loss. Going Paleo or low carb works - and it's proven in the numbers and studies. I don't know why there's so many people who think you can "have your cake and eat it too" on this site and believing that processed foods and refined sugars can be part of a healthy diet to lose FAT pounds. The Twinkie diet is a failure - even the doctor questioned his own results - it wouldn't work over the long term because you would end up with fatty liver disease, you would lose precious muscle, and gain visceral fat. There's a bottom line to all of this and to answer OPs question with relation to CICO - if you want to lose the FAT permanently over the long term, you must adhere to a heart-healthy, liver-healthy, body-healthy, mind-healthy diet. Cheat all you want (and I do in very very small ways) but to be honest, you can't live like that over the long run.
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tedboosalis7 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »I think it's an awesome diet. I just got my physical done yesterday and I will be posting my last three years of results this weekend in graph form plus numbers - the doctor basically used words like "amazing" and "continue to do what you are doing" and I transformed into a Paleo diet within the past year. Not only have I dumped 50 pounds of pure fat, but the numbers are incredible to boot.
My numbers below were horrible before my test yesterday. I was borderline Type II and was close to being on cholesterol medication. The Western Diet is a complete and utter failure. Many people on here purport one can eat whatever they want and just let CICO rule - well that isn't necessarily true.
Raw Numbers (9 months after last physical exam):
CHOLESTEROL 100 - 199 mg/dL: 129
TRIGLYCERIDE 10 - 149 mg/dL: 44
HDL 40 - 59 mg/dL: 62
CHOL/HDL RATIO 2.0 - 5.0: 2.1
LDL CALCULATED <=99 mg/dL: 58
Last two tests - Cholesterol was close to 200 and HDL was below 35.
I am 80/20 Paleo with movement to almost 100%. The only thing I do take issue with is some dairy. I eat non-GMO grass-fed cow whole yogurt. Beyond that, I have killed legumes and grains. I don't miss it one bit. I eat lean meats, veggies, and fruit. I have now ordered Paleo-certified protein and preworkout stuff from www.mynaturalforce.com. They are the only ones in the industry apparently that received the certification from the Paleo Foundation.
I believe in it and the numbers prove it. My doctor yesterday was so ecstatic to see me after several months - she sees the difference physically, my BMI is in normal range now (weighed in at exactly 170# which was my goal starting March 1st last year) and obviously the numbers prove beyond any doubt that this kind of diet regimen over the long run works.
Nice work, those are good numbers.
Just to mention though, when people say CICO, they're referring to weight loss and not health, don't really understand the confusion there but anyway, I changed by diet about 6 yrs ago to a lower carb diet and I eat mostly whole foods, but not paleo in the least. My HDL went from the high 60's which was good anyway to just over 100 and my LDL is just under 90, which interestingly enough, many Dr's would want to medicate me with those high numbers, weird but true. The drastic drop for me was my trigs, it went from 170ish to the 30's.
Wow that is truly awesome! Very very impressive. Yeah there's no reason to medicate if your levels are ratio-wise congruent - it shouldn't matter in my eyes.
On the CICO comment - this is a CICO-based site - I had to throw it in because there's a lot of misleading information on here about what kind of diet truly works over the long run for weight loss. Going Paleo or low carb works - and it's proven in the numbers and studies. I don't know why there's so many people who think you can "have your cake and eat it too" on this site and believing that processed foods and refined sugars can be part of a healthy diet to lose FAT pounds. The Twinkie diet is a failure - even the doctor questioned his own results - it wouldn't work over the long term because you would end up with fatty liver disease, you would lose precious muscle, and gain visceral fat. There's a bottom line to all of this and to answer OPs question with relation to CICO - if you want to lose the FAT permanently over the long term, you must adhere to a heart-healthy, liver-healthy, body-healthy, mind-healthy diet. Cheat all you want (and I do in very very small ways) but to be honest, you can't live like that over the long run.
Good grief, the point of the Twinkie diet was never to recommend it as a sustainable life-long diet.
The point of moderation advocates on this site is never to recommend a diet comprised only of sugars and processed foods, either.
Straw men, much?
There are too many other people on this site who have lost fat and improved their numbers without dietary gymnastics to disprove your beloved belief on the one true way of eating.
Oh, I'm just starting my journey but have lost 3% points in body fat and improved my cholesterol. Eating grains and far more dairy than you. And beans. In fact, I'm a vegetarian. I eat sugar now and then too. Simply losing weight and eating an overall balanced diet will improve health markers.
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It's another fad diet based on false assumptions. If you restrict calories in and burn more then you loose weight. http://www.amazon.com/Diet-Cults-Surprising-Fallacy-Nutrition/dp/1605985600
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tedboosalis7 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »I think it's an awesome diet. I just got my physical done yesterday and I will be posting my last three years of results this weekend in graph form plus numbers - the doctor basically used words like "amazing" and "continue to do what you are doing" and I transformed into a Paleo diet within the past year. Not only have I dumped 50 pounds of pure fat, but the numbers are incredible to boot.
My numbers below were horrible before my test yesterday. I was borderline Type II and was close to being on cholesterol medication. The Western Diet is a complete and utter failure. Many people on here purport one can eat whatever they want and just let CICO rule - well that isn't necessarily true.
Raw Numbers (9 months after last physical exam):
CHOLESTEROL 100 - 199 mg/dL: 129
TRIGLYCERIDE 10 - 149 mg/dL: 44
HDL 40 - 59 mg/dL: 62
CHOL/HDL RATIO 2.0 - 5.0: 2.1
LDL CALCULATED <=99 mg/dL: 58
Last two tests - Cholesterol was close to 200 and HDL was below 35.
I am 80/20 Paleo with movement to almost 100%. The only thing I do take issue with is some dairy. I eat non-GMO grass-fed cow whole yogurt. Beyond that, I have killed legumes and grains. I don't miss it one bit. I eat lean meats, veggies, and fruit. I have now ordered Paleo-certified protein and preworkout stuff from www.mynaturalforce.com. They are the only ones in the industry apparently that received the certification from the Paleo Foundation.
I believe in it and the numbers prove it. My doctor yesterday was so ecstatic to see me after several months - she sees the difference physically, my BMI is in normal range now (weighed in at exactly 170# which was my goal starting March 1st last year) and obviously the numbers prove beyond any doubt that this kind of diet regimen over the long run works.
Nice work, those are good numbers.
Just to mention though, when people say CICO, they're referring to weight loss and not health, don't really understand the confusion there but anyway, I changed by diet about 6 yrs ago to a lower carb diet and I eat mostly whole foods, but not paleo in the least. My HDL went from the high 60's which was good anyway to just over 100 and my LDL is just under 90, which interestingly enough, many Dr's would want to medicate me with those high numbers, weird but true. The drastic drop for me was my trigs, it went from 170ish to the 30's.
Wow that is truly awesome! Very very impressive. Yeah there's no reason to medicate if your levels are ratio-wise congruent - it shouldn't matter in my eyes.
On the CICO comment - this is a CICO-based site - I had to throw it in because there's a lot of misleading information on here about what kind of diet truly works over the long run for weight loss. Going Paleo or low carb works - and it's proven in the numbers and studies. I don't know why there's so many people who think you can "have your cake and eat it too" on this site and believing that processed foods and refined sugars can be part of a healthy diet to lose FAT pounds. The Twinkie diet is a failure - even the doctor questioned his own results - it wouldn't work over the long term because you would end up with fatty liver disease, you would lose precious muscle, and gain visceral fat. There's a bottom line to all of this and to answer OPs question with relation to CICO - if you want to lose the FAT permanently over the long term, you must adhere to a heart-healthy, liver-healthy, body-healthy, mind-healthy diet. Cheat all you want (and I do in very very small ways) but to be honest, you can't live like that over the long run.
My point is eat whatever you want and makes you feel good. I beleive unless you have a medical condition that you can go by what ever diet you want or just eat everything in moderation. But all diets are the same. The only way to lose weight is with a caloric deficit.0 -
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tedboosalis7 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »I think it's an awesome diet. I just got my physical done yesterday and I will be posting my last three years of results this weekend in graph form plus numbers - the doctor basically used words like "amazing" and "continue to do what you are doing" and I transformed into a Paleo diet within the past year. Not only have I dumped 50 pounds of pure fat, but the numbers are incredible to boot.
My numbers below were horrible before my test yesterday. I was borderline Type II and was close to being on cholesterol medication. The Western Diet is a complete and utter failure. Many people on here purport one can eat whatever they want and just let CICO rule - well that isn't necessarily true.
Raw Numbers (9 months after last physical exam):
CHOLESTEROL 100 - 199 mg/dL: 129
TRIGLYCERIDE 10 - 149 mg/dL: 44
HDL 40 - 59 mg/dL: 62
CHOL/HDL RATIO 2.0 - 5.0: 2.1
LDL CALCULATED <=99 mg/dL: 58
Last two tests - Cholesterol was close to 200 and HDL was below 35.
I am 80/20 Paleo with movement to almost 100%. The only thing I do take issue with is some dairy. I eat non-GMO grass-fed cow whole yogurt. Beyond that, I have killed legumes and grains. I don't miss it one bit. I eat lean meats, veggies, and fruit. I have now ordered Paleo-certified protein and preworkout stuff from www.mynaturalforce.com. They are the only ones in the industry apparently that received the certification from the Paleo Foundation.
I believe in it and the numbers prove it. My doctor yesterday was so ecstatic to see me after several months - she sees the difference physically, my BMI is in normal range now (weighed in at exactly 170# which was my goal starting March 1st last year) and obviously the numbers prove beyond any doubt that this kind of diet regimen over the long run works.
Nice work, those are good numbers.
Just to mention though, when people say CICO, they're referring to weight loss and not health, don't really understand the confusion there but anyway, I changed by diet about 6 yrs ago to a lower carb diet and I eat mostly whole foods, but not paleo in the least. My HDL went from the high 60's which was good anyway to just over 100 and my LDL is just under 90, which interestingly enough, many Dr's would want to medicate me with those high numbers, weird but true. The drastic drop for me was my trigs, it went from 170ish to the 30's.
Wow that is truly awesome! Very very impressive. Yeah there's no reason to medicate if your levels are ratio-wise congruent - it shouldn't matter in my eyes.
On the CICO comment - this is a CICO-based site - I had to throw it in because there's a lot of misleading information on here about what kind of diet truly works over the long run for weight loss. Going Paleo or low carb works - and it's proven in the numbers and studies. I don't know why there's so many people who think you can "have your cake and eat it too" on this site and believing that processed foods and refined sugars can be part of a healthy diet to lose FAT pounds. The Twinkie diet is a failure - even the doctor questioned his own results - it wouldn't work over the long term because you would end up with fatty liver disease, you would lose precious muscle, and gain visceral fat. There's a bottom line to all of this and to answer OPs question with relation to CICO - if you want to lose the FAT permanently over the long term, you must adhere to a heart-healthy, liver-healthy, body-healthy, mind-healthy diet. Cheat all you want (and I do in very very small ways) but to be honest, you can't live like that over the long run.
There you go again. Making claims about health and weight just because you don't understand it. So I guess none of us that actually lost the fat, got lean and healthy actually did any of that while eating thing we like in moderation even if it had added sugar or was processed. We are all just making it up right?
I understand it completely. My doctor understands it and applauded all that I have done. I lost the FAT pounds. I have the blood work to prove what I did was sustainable. I don't crave sweets.
Too bad you don't see it that way. The doctors do! LOL!0 -
My advice would be to simply eat a well balanced diet rich in whole food nutrition and meals prepared from scratch, whole ingredients, all the while hitting your calorie goals.
There's nothing magical about paleo...there are elements of paleo that I like (as in the emphasis on whole foods)...but then they also demonize certain whole foods which is absurd. Also, srsly...you're never going to eat anything that has been commercially processed? I'm going to go out on a limb and say most people who follow paleo can't even follow paleo because it's too restrictive...just look at how many people create their own versions of this...reminds me of religions..."I agree with X,Y, a Z but don't follow Y because I don't feel like it...but I'm still a (insert religion/philosophy/diet/whatever)".
Also, you can eat paleo or any other diet out there and it will only work so long as you are in a deficit of energy...all diets are the same in that RE...they are designed to put you in an energy (calorie) deficit because that's the only way to lose weight...'cuz science.0
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