Polar F4 is discouraging!!!!!!
therinna
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can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know my correct training zone should be. For example: I recently purchased a F4 Polar HRM. Imputed my setting...height 5'6 weight 224 age 36 and it gave me zones from 120 to 156. HOWEVER every time I run at 4.0 on the treadmill i immediately go over my zone. (it starts beeping like crazy) So a trainer told me I shouldn't let my watch stop me from running and to adjust it in the setting. So i did some research and I think my max is 180 but I also heard if you go outside of your cardio zone it could cause strain on the heart? So if anyone is familiar with this any suggestions would be great! thanks!!!
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Just exercise, forget the zone.0
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I have the same heart rate monitor and I've adjusted mine. I'm 5'1 and about 152lbs and it set my max heart rate around 170 something i think. I changed it to high 180s. I can't remember what exactly but my heart rate never goes over 181 and it only reaches that once or twice during my work out. Average is about 165-175.0
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can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know my correct training zone should be.
Zone training is a waste of tme unless you're competitive in distance running or cycling.
Work as hard as you're comfortable with for the duration of your session. Shorter session, higher effort, longer session, lower effort. They each have a fitness outcome.
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I had the Polar F11 and there was a setting where you could turn the alarm off. I kept the zone thing to keep track of how much time I spent at each intensity.0
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I have the FT4. You can adjust the training zone settings to whatever you would like them to be. See the following link http://www.polar.com/us-en/support/User_manual_for_Polar_FT4_in_English
You should determine your best training zones. I use the Karvonen formula (http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/heart-rate-reserve.html). You need to determine your resting HR to determine your HR training percentages. For appropriate training zones, I use the following, http://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article folder/lactatethreshold.html.
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This. And if you're concerned, get checked by a doctor before you do any more exercise.MeanderingMammal wrote: »can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know my correct training zone should be.
Zone training is a waste of tme unless you're competitive in distance running or cycling.
Work as hard as you're comfortable with for the duration of your session. Shorter session, higher effort, longer session, lower effort. They each have a fitness outcome.
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I set my training zone for a higher heart rate, that whole 220-age thing is ridiculous, if I used that I'd never break a sweat. (I doubt that's how polar does it, but whatever formula they use has the same low result). I have an FT4 and just set it to range from 130-180.0
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This. And if you're concerned, get checked by a doctor before you do any more exercise.MeanderingMammal wrote: »can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know my correct training zone should be.
Zone training is a waste of tme unless you're competitive in distance running or cycling.
Work as hard as you're comfortable with for the duration of your session. Shorter session, higher effort, longer session, lower effort. They each have a fitness outcome.
This.
Heart rate zones are based on a formula and not everyone falls into the average. For example, my sister and I are about the same height and weight and we both run. She and I can be running together and her heart rate will be in the 130s while mine is in the 170s. Her heart rate is just naturally slower than mine.0 -
Turn off the zone alarms.
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All good advice. Don't sweat the zones, turn off the tedious little alarm, done.0
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I had the same problem. I just turned off the beeping and continued to work my a$s off.
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I turned the alarm off on mine. I also reset my settings because the high it gave me was WAY too low for my workouts. I routinely go above 170 and it was set at 155. Work out by doing what's comfortable for you. I know when I'm pushing my limit (above 180 I can feel my heart, my breathing, everything gets a little off and I know I'm pushing right at my limit).0
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I have the FT4 too, and I was always over the zone. I was a little concerned until I realized that I always worked out at that intensity, I just hadn't had the numbers in front of me before. I adjusted the settings so the max number is higher, and I did shut off the sound because the beeping was driving me crazy but I just continued my workouts as per ususal.0
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I have a FT4 and have been using it for about a year now. I originally set the "zone" to 65%-75% max HR (you can either set the range using % of max or actually PBM - see the "Settings" menu). After a while, I upped to zone to 75%-95% as I increased the intensity of my workouts.
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I have the ft4. Like the others I just turned off the alarms I also don't follow the zone thing. I just go and work out. I am usually in the 150-170 range0
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I have the Polar FT4 and I couldn't care less about the zone, I just use it to see my calories burned0
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Yup, what everyone else said. I have the FT4, I turned off the alarms, didn't pay attention to the zones, and just kept working out. My numbers were always way over the zones. It is what it is, I didn't pay any attention.0
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MeanderingMammal wrote: »can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know my correct training zone should be.
Zone training is a waste of tme unless you're competitive in distance running or cycling.
Work as hard as you're comfortable with for the duration of your session. Shorter session, higher effort, longer session, lower effort. They each have a fitness outcome.
I'll second that.0 -
Try this:
http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/vo2max-calculator.aspx
And then read the directions that came with the watch to set your target zone.0 -
TheReloader wrote: »Just exercise, forget the zone.
Bad advice. She is looking to stay in a certain zone. By staying in a certain zone that is most efficient, one can go farther in their exercises, and it builds endurance.0 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know my correct training zone should be.
Zone training is a waste of tme unless you're competitive in distance running or cycling.
Work as hard as you're comfortable with for the duration of your session. Shorter session, higher effort, longer session, lower effort. They each have a fitness outcome.
So since I am not "competitive" in anything, it is a waste of time to use zone training to improve my personal lap times and lap counts on the track? What a load of bs. If she wants to do zone training, who are you to tell her it is pointless?0 -
I don't even listen to that I switched the beeping off. I love my watch I've had it nearly 3 years now and wouldn't be without it.0
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Just for informational purposes, I am 28, 5'9" & 200. My max HR is about 192, so my 90% is in the low 180s. When running, I like to stay between 165-175 bpm, as this will maximize both my lap times and the amount of miles I can run at the pace that correlates with my hr. Right now, that pace is 6.2 mph, up from a base of 4.8 mph, looking to improve to 6.5 mph and more. If I ran balls to the wall and stepped into the 180s, this would limit the amount of laps I can run. I dont compete against anyone, I am just looking to improve myself. But anyone can do zone training to improve their fitness level. Period.0
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RockstarWilson wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know my correct training zone should be.
Zone training is a waste of tme unless you're competitive in distance running or cycling.
Work as hard as you're comfortable with for the duration of your session. Shorter session, higher effort, longer session, lower effort. They each have a fitness outcome.
So since I am not "competitive" in anything, it is a waste of time to use zone training to improve my personal lap times and lap counts on the track? What a load of bs. If she wants to do zone training, who are you to tell her it is pointless?
Until someone gets to a certain level of fitness, it is pointless, because it doesn't add anything of value. For the vast majority of exercisers, you can tell you're in the right "zone" simply by monitoring your breathing frequency and doing the Talk Test while running (or whatever).
If someone really wants to closely monitor their HR - sure, go for it, it won't do any harm (unless you screw it up).
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RockstarWilson wrote: »If I ran balls to the wall and stepped into the 180s, this would limit the amount of laps I can run.
Yes, everybody here understands that the more intense the effort, the shorter period of time it can be sustained.
The problem is that heart rate is only a mediocre proxy for power output. Too much variance - even in the same person, at a constant level of fitness, performing the same task.
Which is why the real pros don't do HR-based training, they do power-based training.0 -
RockstarWilson wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know my correct training zone should be.
Zone training is a waste of tme unless you're competitive in distance running or cycling.
Work as hard as you're comfortable with for the duration of your session. Shorter session, higher effort, longer session, lower effort. They each have a fitness outcome.
So since I am not "competitive" in anything, it is a waste of time to use zone training to improve my personal lap times and lap counts on the track? What a load of bs. If she wants to do zone training, who are you to tell her it is pointless?
Until someone gets to a certain level of fitness, it is pointless, because it doesn't add anything of value. For the vast majority of exercisers, you can tell you're in the right "zone" simply by monitoring your breathing frequency and doing the Talk Test while running (or whatever).
And what is value, I wonder? An objective thing that everybody deems the same?0 -
See above. The "zone" methodology is an attempt to use heart rate as a proxy for power output.
Heart rate is NOT an "objective" measure of anything, other than heart rate.0 -
Weird... I have the Polar F7. I always go above my range, it doesnt beep at me or anything though, it just says im in the 'fitness' zone.0
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This. And if you're concerned, get checked by a doctor before you do any more exercise.MeanderingMammal wrote: »can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know my correct training zone should be.
Zone training is a waste of tme unless you're competitive in distance running or cycling.
Work as hard as you're comfortable with for the duration of your session. Shorter session, higher effort, longer session, lower effort. They each have a fitness outcome.
Zone training is not a waste of time. It's beneficial to work both larger arterial regions as well as capillaries. Saying anything less is being simplistic and just plain incorrect.
HIIT is zone training, as an example. LISS is zone training as well.
Seen great results zone training on cardio.
I have the FT 4 but I think others on here in previous posts have pointed out how to make the adjustments. You should just be able to mute the dang watch - if you are on equipment equipped with a heart rate monitor unto itself, you don't even need the watch.0 -
tedboosalis7 wrote: »
This. And if you're concerned, get checked by a doctor before you do any more exercise.MeanderingMammal wrote: »can someone please point me in the right direction to let me know my correct training zone should be.
Zone training is a waste of tme unless you're competitive in distance running or cycling.
Work as hard as you're comfortable with for the duration of your session. Shorter session, higher effort, longer session, lower effort. They each have a fitness outcome.
Zone training is not a waste of time. It's beneficial to work both larger arterial regions as well as capillaries. Saying anything less is being simplistic and just plain incorrect.
HIIT is zone training, as an example. LISS is zone training as well.
Seen great results zone training on cardio.
I have the FT 4 but I think others on here in previous posts have pointed out how to make the adjustments. You should just be able to mute the dang watch - if you are on equipment equipped with a heart rate monitor unto itself, you don't even need the watch.
Meaning... you can use the heart rate chest strap and let the equipment tell you what your HR rate is - so it's really simple and easy.0
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