Relationships with Food - Healthy vs. Unhealthy

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  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Weighing everything you eat seems obsessive to me. But then having a relationship is food is a rather bizarre concept to me, even though I probably spend much more time thinking about food than the average person.

    Calling food bad or unhealthy does not necessarily mean something wrong any more than calling all food good or healthy does. Not wanting to eat certain foods because you fear they will make you overeat is no more a sign of something wrong than feeling that you must eat a little bit of something in order to stay within your goals.

    I don't think anyone can really judge what is disordered or abnormal for another person without knowing them very well. Some people are just naturally more laid back and some are more neurotic.

    You can't judge what is disordered or abnormal yet you judge that weighing everything is obsessive. Ooooooooookay.

    That's what I was thinking. Her post is all over the place.


    My thoughts:

    Wanting to know in advance what a restaurant serves in advance so you can adjust your day accordingly isn't wrong.

    Refusing to go because it will "ruin your diet", starting a post on here freaking out if you ate a few extra pieces of bread at the restaurant and that you will run for 3 hours to burn it off......that's not healthy.

    The first is planning, the second is obsessing. Yup.

    Then again, I have to plan ALL the time since I have celiac disease. I'm used to it.

  • ryanhorn
    ryanhorn Posts: 355 Member
    My Take:

    Does what you do with food (weighing, counting, etc) affect the relationships between you and those around you? Does what you do with food cause you excess stress/worry so much so that it affects your daily life?

    If you answer yes to either of those, you have the potential of having an unhealthy relationship with food.

    Also, another good indicator I feel like is how you feel/react when you go over your calories for the day. Do you excessively exercise to undo the calories? Do you go into complete mental breakdown? Etc.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    JSurita2 wrote: »
    Reading another thread on here got me to think about this. I’m curious what is a healthy food relationship? What is an unhealthy one? If we obsess about what foods weigh to the last gram and count calories all day long, is this healthy (or normal)? To who? Should we seek professional help if we continue to do this as a lifestyle? Some people might think it’s overly obsessive to weigh and count every single morsel we eat. While others might feel its crazy not to (especially if you’re trying to lose weight).

    Thoughts?

    For me, my relationship with food was unhealthy when I demonized certain foods and cut them out of my diet because they were "fattening" or somehow contributed to my weight loss. For years, I refused to eat sweet treats because sugar was my problem. Other demonized foods were avacados, bacon, eggs, mayo, and anything that I really liked and could not eat due to its special properties of making me fat.

    Today my relationship with food is healthy because I no longer demonize food. I eat what I want in moderation, but I also sometimes eat too much like a normal personal. I no longer beat myself up about it, I simply log it and move on. The only things not allowed in my diet are foods which I am intolerant to or that I don't like. I now have an easier time with moderation because no food is forbidden. It's all just food.

    I do weight and log 99% of my food, other times let it go because I'm eating out. For me, staying accountable via weighing and logging is healthier than anything I've ever done before.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Weighing everything you eat seems obsessive to me. But then having a relationship is food is a rather bizarre concept to me, even though I probably spend much more time thinking about food than the average person.

    Calling food bad or unhealthy does not necessarily mean something wrong any more than calling all food good or healthy does. Not wanting to eat certain foods because you fear they will make you overeat is no more a sign of something wrong than feeling that you must eat a little bit of something in order to stay within your goals.

    I don't think anyone can really judge what is disordered or abnormal for another person without knowing them very well. Some people are just naturally more laid back and some are more neurotic.

    Perhaps for you it is obsessive, but not for everyone.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Weighing everything you eat seems obsessive to me. But then having a relationship is food is a rather bizarre concept to me, even though I probably spend much more time thinking about food than the average person.

    Calling food bad or unhealthy does not necessarily mean something wrong any more than calling all food good or healthy does. Not wanting to eat certain foods because you fear they will make you overeat is no more a sign of something wrong than feeling that you must eat a little bit of something in order to stay within your goals.

    I don't think anyone can really judge what is disordered or abnormal for another person without knowing them very well. Some people are just naturally more laid back and some are more neurotic.

    A neurotic is by definition unhealthy. If their neurosis center around food, they then have an unhealthy relationship with food.

    "Full Definition of NEUROTIC

    : of, relating to, constituting, or affected with neurosis(see neurosis)"

    "Full Definition of NEUROSIS

    : a mental and emotional disorder that affects only part of the personality, is accompanied by a less distorted perception of reality than in a psychosis, does not result in disturbance of the use of language, and is accompanied by various physical, physiological, and mental disturbances (as visceral symptoms, anxieties, or phobias)" Merriam Webster
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Weighing everything you eat seems obsessive to me. But then having a relationship is food is a rather bizarre concept to me, even though I probably spend much more time thinking about food than the average person.

    Calling food bad or unhealthy does not necessarily mean something wrong any more than calling all food good or healthy does. Not wanting to eat certain foods because you fear they will make you overeat is no more a sign of something wrong than feeling that you must eat a little bit of something in order to stay within your goals.

    I don't think anyone can really judge what is disordered or abnormal for another person without knowing them very well. Some people are just naturally more laid back and some are more neurotic.

    You can't judge what is disordered or abnormal yet you judge that weighing everything is obsessive. Ooooooooookay.

    That's what I was thinking. Her post is all over the place.


    My thoughts:

    Wanting to know in advance what a restaurant serves in advance so you can adjust your day accordingly isn't wrong.

    Refusing to go because it will "ruin your diet", starting a post on here freaking out if you ate a few extra pieces of bread at the restaurant and that you will run for 3 hours to burn it off......that's not healthy.

    But this is stuff a lot of people new to counting do
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Weighing everything you eat seems obsessive to me. But then having a relationship is food is a rather bizarre concept to me, even though I probably spend much more time thinking about food than the average person.

    Calling food bad or unhealthy does not necessarily mean something wrong any more than calling all food good or healthy does. Not wanting to eat certain foods because you fear they will make you overeat is no more a sign of something wrong than feeling that you must eat a little bit of something in order to stay within your goals.

    I don't think anyone can really judge what is disordered or abnormal for another person without knowing them very well. Some people are just naturally more laid back and some are more neurotic.

    You can't judge what is disordered or abnormal yet you judge that weighing everything is obsessive. Ooooooooookay.

    That's what I was thinking. Her post is all over the place.


    My thoughts:

    Wanting to know in advance what a restaurant serves in advance so you can adjust your day accordingly isn't wrong.

    Refusing to go because it will "ruin your diet", starting a post on here freaking out if you ate a few extra pieces of bread at the restaurant and that you will run for 3 hours to burn it off......that's not healthy.

    is that really that shocking?
  • KnM0107
    KnM0107 Posts: 355 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Weighing everything you eat seems obsessive to me. But then having a relationship is food is a rather bizarre concept to me, even though I probably spend much more time thinking about food than the average person.

    Calling food bad or unhealthy does not necessarily mean something wrong any more than calling all food good or healthy does. Not wanting to eat certain foods because you fear they will make you overeat is no more a sign of something wrong than feeling that you must eat a little bit of something in order to stay within your goals.

    I don't think anyone can really judge what is disordered or abnormal for another person without knowing them very well. Some people are just naturally more laid back and some are more neurotic.

    Perhaps for you it is obsessive, but not for everyone.

    That is probably what the "to me" was about.

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