Not counting vegetables
kimberlynicole79
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Anyone not count the non starchy veggies in their calories? I was thinking of doing this like WW where you don't need to track veggies.
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Nope, because all my friends who did that on WW gained weight. All calories count.0
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I'm perfectly capable of eating several hundred calories worth of brussels sprouts - I count everything that has calories. What's the point otherwise?????0
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I'm not strict on vegetables in small quantities because they're often such a low calorie item. But I do count them if I eat a lot and I definitely count any toppings (olive oil, butter, cheese, etc.)0
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Calories count calories....period. They don't just disappear because they're counted.0
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i don't count my veggies...
however I'm specific about the ones i don't count, its probably easier to say the ones i do count which are the starchy ones like corn and potatoes.
veggies like greens, i don't count.
it hasn't affected my weightloss efforts.
yes vegetables have calories but they are negligible for me.
if/when i reach a plateau or the like these kind of things i will look at.
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I count. It adds up. 100 extra calories of carrots a day can be nearly a pound in a month.0
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On WW they have allowed for the 'free' veggies within the points (though it seems totally screwed up when they added 'free' fruit, because most people it seems are greedy idiots). So if you're going to not count your veggies you need to have some buffer room for that in your deficit.
Is it just that you can't be bothered weighing them? I often don't, but I have a damn good eye for portion sizes, and do occasional checks to ensure I'm in the ballpark, and I still log the calories based on my weight estimate.0 -
Anyone not count the non starchy veggies in their calories? I was thinking of doing this like WW where you don't need to track veggies.
Weight Watchers DOES require tracking "starchy vegetables." And Phrick if you can eat several hundred calories worth of brussel sprouts (43 cals per 100 grams) more power to ya!
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I allow myself to approximate here, now that I'm in maintenance. Does not qualify as 'not counting' but for anything that is low in calorie total, I figure my error will be insignificant.Anyone not count the non starchy veggies in their calories? I was thinking of doing this like WW where you don't need to track veggies.
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Anyone not count the non starchy veggies in their calories? I was thinking of doing this like WW where you don't need to track veggies.
With all due respect, if you want to do it like WW, maybe you should follow their program and not do MFP. Mixing several program approaches because of feeling lazy towards logging almost never works.
Even non-starchy vegetables have calories and if you eat the recommended amount each day, you might cheat yourself by not accounting for a couple of hundred calories each day....and that adds up during a month or more.
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I count everything but pickles. They are my secret, unlogged piggy food. However, since they are very low calorie (and I don't watch sodium too closely) and very strongly flavored, I can't eat enough to count. Now, like one other poster said, I can eat several hundred calories of other veggies with no problem! I'm sure it wouldn't make a huge difference since I don't eat tons in a day but what about the oils you prepare them in and seasonings and sauces? They count. Plus, if you're calorie counting, watch things besides calories, too. Veggies have all sorts of other benefits, vitamins, fiber, etc. Fiber is often overlooked but it can make huge changes in your life in the short and long term. One great source is vegetables!
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Anyone not count the non starchy veggies in their calories? I was thinking of doing this like WW where you don't need to track veggies.
Weight Watchers DOES require tracking "starchy vegetables." And Phrick if you can eat several hundred calories worth of brussel sprouts (43 cals per 100 grams) more power to ya!
Right thats why I asked if any counted NON starchy vegetables.....0 -
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beamer0821 wrote: »i don't count my veggies...
however I'm specific about the ones i don't count, its probably easier to say the ones i do count which are the starchy ones like corn and potatoes.
veggies like greens, i don't count.
it hasn't affected my weightloss efforts.
yes vegetables have calories but they are negligible for me.
if/when i reach a plateau or the like these kind of things i will look at.
If vegetables are negligable for you you might not eat the recommended amount which could interfere with good nutrition and health.
I eat the recommended 7-11 portions of vegetables five days a week ( the other two days I do 5:2) and for me it would make a difference of 350 calories minimally a day....something I cannot afford not to log
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »On WW they have allowed for the 'free' veggies within the points (though it seems totally screwed up when they added 'free' fruit, because most people it seems are greedy idiots). So if you're going to not count your veggies you need to have some buffer room for that in your deficit.
Is it just that you can't be bothered weighing them? I often don't, but I have a damn good eye for portion sizes, and do occasional checks to ensure I'm in the ballpark, and I still log the calories based on my weight estimate.
Yea I guess I just wondered if it really mattered. I just ate a plate full of green peppers,tomatoes, and some pickles I figure its like 100 calories if that . Im just starting so Im not exactly sure on where my calories need to be for loss and just focusing on eating that instead of something unhealthy is my main goal.
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If you want accuracy then count em. If you know you have a lot of buffers in your net calories (like not eating back regular exercise calorie burn) then some extra veggies aren't going to make a big difference.
I personally count almost everything, but if I eat a few baby carrots or cucumber slices here and there and forget to log it, it isn't going to throw my plan out of the window.
Bottom line is...are you losing weight? If not, get more strict and get that accuracy down so you can use MFP effectively.0 -
I don't weigh out my non-starchy veggies any more - I've gotten a pretty good eye for my serving sizes. BUT, I do log them.. so while I might be off a few grams here & there since I'm not weighing, I do still account for them.0
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Yea I guess I just wondered if it really mattered. I just ate a plate full of green peppers,tomatoes, and some pickles I figure its like 100 calories if that . Im just starting so Im not exactly sure on where my calories need to be for loss and just focusing on eating that instead of something unhealthy is my main goal.
I think if that's the way you want to do it that's perfectly valid. If you find you're not losing weight then you will need to reassess that.0 -
I really just dont want to be too obsessive. I mean have you ever heard of someone gaining weight from too much brocccoli...or brussel sprouts. With all the fiber in them It is probably really hard to over eat anything else.
I do count the salad dressing etc. Right now I just had vinegar on them and an avocado so obviously i counted the avocado.
Bascially the place im working bought subway. They had all the veggies on the side so since no one eats all the veggies I grabbed a plate and used vinegar instead of the italian they had. I also just ate the lunch meat from the sub and counted that.
I could just estimate it was probably a half a cup of green peppers and tomatoes0 -
I log them but guess the weight, especially for things like broccoli, cabbage etc0
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »Yea I guess I just wondered if it really mattered. I just ate a plate full of green peppers,tomatoes, and some pickles I figure its like 100 calories if that . Im just starting so Im not exactly sure on where my calories need to be for loss and just focusing on eating that instead of something unhealthy is my main goal.
I think if that's the way you want to do it that's perfectly valid. If you find you're not losing weight then you will need to reassess that.
Cool thanks for the supportive comment.
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Anyone not count the non starchy veggies in their calories? I was thinking of doing this like WW where you don't need to track veggies.
Weight Watchers DOES require tracking "starchy vegetables." And Phrick if you can eat several hundred calories worth of brussel sprouts (43 cals per 100 grams) more power to ya!
I don't know about Phrick, but I regularly roast a pound of brussel sprouts and eat 3/4 of them (my wife eats the rest).0 -
Well Lets see MFP suggested I eat 900 calories. I calculated out my macros on iifiym's website and readjusted. My carb recommendation from that site is pretty high like 200 which I dont really ever reach unless I decided to have a beer or something like that.Anyone not count the non starchy veggies in their calories? I was thinking of doing this like WW where you don't need to track veggies.
With all due respect, if you want to do it like WW, maybe you should follow their program and not do MFP. Mixing several program approaches because of feeling lazy towards logging almost never works.
Even non-starchy vegetables have calories and if you eat the recommended amount each day, you might cheat yourself by not accounting for a couple of hundred calories each day....and that adds up during a month or more.
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Tinabob777 wrote: »I track mine for two reasons-
The calories
And to make sure I'm eating enough veggies. This way I'm accountable
Good point
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Also when I was getting ready for my figure shows a few years ago I basically was allowed onions(i sauteed them) and garlic I think for free foods. I didnt count them and lost weight still of course I was probably eating like 700-800 calories so not saying it was healthy by any means.0
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(1) Vegetables have calories, sometimes lots of you eat lots of them, like I do.
(2) I want to know my actual maintenance number, so that requires actual counting of everything, and plus trying to be accurate and watching macros and seeing how different combinations/timing affect me is part of what makes this fun, like a game, so not counting some stuff wouldn't be as fun. And veggies are the easiest thing to count since I chop them anyway and can just toss them on the scale.
(3) Most important: I don't think it's as ideal to think of the log as just a way to keep calories down as to try to make sure that you get an overall balanced, nutritious diet. I like logging veggies and fruits since I can then see that I got a good variety of them in my day and week, etc.--it shows that this is not just about eating less, but eating well. At least, that's what works for me.
Thus, I am strongly against the WW idea of not logging veggies, but everyone should do what works for them.0 -
I won't count the slice of tomato or two lettuce leaves on my sandwich, stuff like that. But a whole serving of veggies I count.0
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