Weight loss pills
salenamartine
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so after I'm done breastfeeding I was thinking of trying some sort of weight loss supplement. I don't want to take anything with caffeine or any other stimulant as I have a heart murmur but I was wondering if anyone knew of anything to take that actually works to help lose weight with diet and exercise?
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Diet and exercise, without the scammy supplement.0
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Alli. Though it will cause u to occassionally poop urself. Stick with diet and exercise. Why mess with that stuff?0
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I just posted about Alli and an unfortunate sneezing/pooping myself incident. Save your money. Genuine diet and exercise will help you lose weight. If you have a little one, I'm certain he or she keeps you on your toes. Use their energy to assist in your weight loss.0
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Just eat in a calorie deficit. The only thing you lose taking diet pills is money.0
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Lol thanks for the advice guys. Yeah I figured most of Those weight loss things are scams. I've heard about Alli but I'm not sure I want to poop out all my weight or poop when not on the toilet lol.0
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The FDA has a few prescription drugs approved for moderate weight loss. They help some people a little bit.
For example, the manufacturers call these drugs successful when after one year with diet and exercise the patient has a 5% to 10% weight loss.
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The FDA has a few prescription drugs approved for moderate weight loss. They help some people a little bit.
For example, the manufacturers call these drugs successful when after one year with diet and exercise the patient has a 5% to 10% weight loss.
Ask your doctor.
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I looked up Belviq, and honestly, some of the side effects are frightening. Like "Valvular heart disease: Some people taking medicines like BELVIQ have had heart valve problems"
Unfortunately, most, if not all, of the current drugs on the market, either approved or not approved for weight loss can have some nasty side effects. Even the FDA approved products that have undergone years of clinical trails to address effectiveness and safety, still have a percentage of adverse reactions in some people.
I myself have been on Duromine (Phentermine) and do not recommend it. Especially if you have a little one to look after, the mood swings and insomnia are not pleasant.0 -
Also, from my experience with Duromine. I lost 6kg in three months (the longest a Doctor will give you a script for here in Australia), then put about 16kg back on.
I exercised like crazy and ate next to nothing for 3 months. Probable lost a lot of muscle mass, then reverted back to my old eating habits.
Unfortunately there are no quick, effective and safe pills available yet. Maybe one day. Theres always studdies taking place. This would be a huge industry and I would deffinately invest in shares of the Company that succeeds in developing such a wonder drug.0 -
Long ago, I took numerous supplements, appetite suppressants, diet pills, stimulants and prescription drugs to try to lose weight. They all worked...temporarily. And with detrimental side effects. And I gained all the weight back and then some when I stopped taking them. I learned the hard way, so learn easily from my wasted years and money! I recommend doing it the practical, healthy way - eat reasonable, measured portions to maintain a caloric deficit, eat healthier foods more often than not, avoid excess and exercise regularly.0
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Just stick with a healthy calorie count and exercise. I have taken phentermine before and it was ok for like a few days but then I had terrible headaches and insomnia. Don't fall for the diet pills they are just a scam in my personal opinion.0
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Save your money and put the work in.0
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »Save your money and put the work in.
In case you don't listen to sound advice. At least consult with your doctor before taking anything! Everyone should do that regardless of having a heart condition, but you especially!0 -
Supplements are not the way to teach you new and healthier ways to lose weight and maintain your weight.
Losing weight is part one.. Maintaining it is part two. Learning to eat right, healthy and exercise (if you do this) will all prove to be long term results. Pills are temporary and you end up eating just like you did or even worse... you eat more and gain it back..
Lots of good advise in the previous posts!!0 -
Don't waist your money, instead but some cute work out gear that gets u motivated to work out- that's what i do. And just eat at a deficit. I had a baby a year and a half ago and the weight is finally coming off cuz I'm doing it the right way. Be patient, do it right, u don't need any magic pills, and know it's going to take a bit to get where u want to be, but enjoy the journey there0
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Try Garcinia Combogia and pure cleanse. Its a new pure supplement for weightloss. It was on the doctor oz show, he even called it the holy grail of weightloss. I bought the set and it works. Everything is 100 percent natural. No caffeine at all. There is no side effects, ive lost 4 pounds in just my first week. It helps with emotional eating, prevents cells from making fat, and a whole lot more. I bought mine on Amazon. Try it outsaralynrice wrote: »Don't waist your money, instead but some cute work out gear that gets u motivated to work out- that's what i do. And just eat at a deficit. I had a baby a year and a half ago and the weight is finally coming off cuz I'm doing it the right way. Be patient, do it right, u don't need any magic pills, and know it's going to take a bit to get where u want to be, but enjoy the journey there
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lovesophia351 wrote: »
Try Garcinia Combogia and pure cleanse. Its a new pure supplement for weightloss. It was on the doctor oz show, he even called it the holy grail of weightloss. I bought the set and it works. Everything is 100 percent natural. No caffeine at all. There is no side effects, ive lost 4 pounds in just my first week. It helps with emotional eating, prevents cells from making fat, and a whole lot more. I bought mine on Amazon. Try it outsaralynrice wrote: »Don't waist your money, instead but some cute work out gear that gets u motivated to work out- that's what i do. And just eat at a deficit. I had a baby a year and a half ago and the weight is finally coming off cuz I'm doing it the right way. Be patient, do it right, u don't need any magic pills, and know it's going to take a bit to get where u want to be, but enjoy the journey there
LOL
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lovesophia351 wrote: »
Try Garcinia Combogia and pure cleanse. Its a new pure supplement for weightloss. It was on the doctor oz show, he even called it the holy grail of weightloss. I bought the set and it works. Everything is 100 percent natural. No caffeine at all. There is no side effects, ive lost 4 pounds in just my first week. It helps with emotional eating, prevents cells from making fat, and a whole lot more. I bought mine on Amazon. Try it outsaralynrice wrote: »Don't waist your money, instead but some cute work out gear that gets u motivated to work out- that's what i do. And just eat at a deficit. I had a baby a year and a half ago and the weight is finally coming off cuz I'm doing it the right way. Be patient, do it right, u don't need any magic pills, and know it's going to take a bit to get where u want to be, but enjoy the journey there
Because this gif is SO much win and so appropriate for this nonsense.
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I was considering this route at one point. I was getting to the point of desperation. I realized that unless I was planning on continuing to use them for the next 30 years or so until I drop dead, I really needed to learn how to eat within a reasonable calorie limit. I am so glad I made this decision and have lost 26 lbs. so far since Thanksgiving.
Yes, I know, "jump start" and all that. But I know I can kill whatever I've lost on a "jump start" in no time flat. So it would all be in vain anyway (the pill route). I'd have been jumpy, skittish and paranoid for eight weeks, as well as slightly thinner, then would just balloon again once I stopped the regimen.0 -
lovesophia351 wrote: »
Try Garcinia Combogia and pure cleanse. Its a new pure supplement for weightloss. It was on the doctor oz show, he even called it the holy grail of weightloss. I bought the set and it works. Everything is 100 percent natural. No caffeine at all. There is no side effects, ive lost 4 pounds in just my first week. It helps with emotional eating, prevents cells from making fat, and a whole lot more. I bought mine on Amazon. Try it outsaralynrice wrote: »Don't waist your money, instead but some cute work out gear that gets u motivated to work out- that's what i do. And just eat at a deficit. I had a baby a year and a half ago and the weight is finally coming off cuz I'm doing it the right way. Be patient, do it right, u don't need any magic pills, and know it's going to take a bit to get where u want to be, but enjoy the journey there
I thought for sure that everyone knew that Dr Oz is a quack. Especially after he was called before the US congress to admit that he's been pushing things that don't work. But no, the MFP boards continue to prove that no one cares about all that legal, sciency stuff.
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There are very few effective appetite suppressants on the market today.
I have not tried any of the fat-uptake-blocking diet pills, but I would not use them. As has been noted, what they do is block the uptake of fat in your intestines, and as a result the fat leaks out the other end. This results in a lot of uncomfortable social consequences. It has the result of blocking about 20% of the calories as a result of blocking fats.
But since you end up getting uncontrollable leakage from it, people stop eating the fats that cause the problem. It's basically aversion therapy. So if you were going to cut fat from your diet resulting in a 20% calorie deficit anyway, save the money.
The other avenue is appetite suppressants. There are three that I am aware of:
Qsymia (Phentermine/topiramate)
Phentermine
Topomax
Belviq (Lorcaserin)
All of these have serious side effects and can only be gotten through a prescription under the supervision of a doctor. You basically have to have a BMI over 30 and a weight-related comorbidity like hypertension.
Qsymia is a time-release variant of Phentermine and Topomax. It is expensive and not generally covered by insurance. Runs about $180 a month.
Many doctors have been prescribing a generic equivalent of Phentermine and Topomax. Phentermine is generally not covered by insurance but costs me $30 a month. Topomax is covered and costs me pennies a month.
These are power drugs and can have serious side effects. Topomax can cause memory loss issues, however in the low doses used for weight loss this is not typical. The phentermine definitely jacks me up in the morning and it takes all day to burn it off. I don't find the sensation exactly pleasant in the morning but on week 3 now I am getting accustomed to it. By lunch I am on a fairly even keel. I can see how some people could crave the "up" from these things but the accompanying jitters are not for me. But this combination of drugs absolutely kills appetite. Also absolutely kills sex drive, by the way. I saw this with the diet drug Redux back in the 90's, too.
Willpower is a serious issue and has been the downfall of every weight loss attempt I have ever made. Knowing what I now know about obesity and the body's defense mechanisms to try and preserve fat stores I have no problem at all resorting to medication to beat this problem. Just like a diabetic requires medication to control their condition or a person with high blood pressure requires medication to control their condition, I see obesity as a condition that requires medication to stop hunger so that I have the willpower to stick to a caloric regimen.
I would not pay a whole lot of attention to the naysayers. More and more doctors are coming to the conclusion that the traditional advice of "eat less and exercise more" is not effective for most people. If you feel you need something to give you the willpower edge to win this fight, talk with your doctor, and work under doctor supervision with strict caloric and weight tracking.
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I was getting to the point of desperation. I realized that unless I was planning on continuing to use them for the next 30 years or so until I drop dead, I really needed to learn how to eat within a reasonable calorie limit.
Wouldn't you learn after a year or two of being on the diet pill? Or five? After five years of having no appetite you'd think you'd learn to eat within a reasonable calorie limit.0 -
maillemaker wrote: »I was getting to the point of desperation. I realized that unless I was planning on continuing to use them for the next 30 years or so until I drop dead, I really needed to learn how to eat within a reasonable calorie limit.
Wouldn't you learn after a year or two of being on the diet pill? Or five? After five years of having no appetite you'd think you'd learn to eat within a reasonable calorie limit.
Well, realistically, yes. And I was being a bit facetious. My point was that as soon as I stopped taking the pills, the hunger would have come right back. Needing to deal with my eating was going to be for life, not something that was going to be somehow knocked out by diet pills.
It's Semantics and Micromanagement Day around here today.
(Waving SaMD flag)
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jennifershoo wrote: »
I need to quote myself!
And one more time just incase someone still doesn't get it.
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branflakes1980 wrote: »jennifershoo wrote: »
I need to quote myself!
And one more time just incase someone still doesn't get it.
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maillemaker wrote: »There are very few effective appetite suppressants on the market today.
I have not tried any of the fat-uptake-blocking diet pills, but I would not use them. As has been noted, what they do is block the uptake of fat in your intestines, and as a result the fat leaks out the other end. This results in a lot of uncomfortable social consequences. It has the result of blocking about 20% of the calories as a result of blocking fats.
But since you end up getting uncontrollable leakage from it, people stop eating the fats that cause the problem. It's basically aversion therapy. So if you were going to cut fat from your diet resulting in a 20% calorie deficit anyway, save the money.
The other avenue is appetite suppressants. There are three that I am aware of:
Qsymia (Phentermine/topiramate)
Phentermine
Topomax
Belviq (Lorcaserin)
All of these have serious side effects and can only be gotten through a prescription under the supervision of a doctor. You basically have to have a BMI over 30 and a weight-related comorbidity like hypertension.
Qsymia is a time-release variant of Phentermine and Topomax. It is expensive and not generally covered by insurance. Runs about $180 a month.
Many doctors have been prescribing a generic equivalent of Phentermine and Topomax. Phentermine is generally not covered by insurance but costs me $30 a month. Topomax is covered and costs me pennies a month.
These are power drugs and can have serious side effects. Topomax can cause memory loss issues, however in the low doses used for weight loss this is not typical. The phentermine definitely jacks me up in the morning and it takes all day to burn it off. I don't find the sensation exactly pleasant in the morning but on week 3 now I am getting accustomed to it. By lunch I am on a fairly even keel. I can see how some people could crave the "up" from these things but the accompanying jitters are not for me. But this combination of drugs absolutely kills appetite. Also absolutely kills sex drive, by the way. I saw this with the diet drug Redux back in the 90's, too.
Willpower is a serious issue and has been the downfall of every weight loss attempt I have ever made. Knowing what I now know about obesity and the body's defense mechanisms to try and preserve fat stores I have no problem at all resorting to medication to beat this problem. Just like a diabetic requires medication to control their condition or a person with high blood pressure requires medication to control their condition, I see obesity as a condition that requires medication to stop hunger so that I have the willpower to stick to a caloric regimen.
I would not pay a whole lot of attention to the naysayers. More and more doctors are coming to the conclusion that the traditional advice of "eat less and exercise more" is not effective for most people. If you feel you need something to give you the willpower edge to win this fight, talk with your doctor, and work under doctor supervision with strict caloric and weight tracking.
really? You list all those side effects and you still take pills and would still recommend them?
People never learn.
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