Difficulty Staying At 1200
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hollyrayburn wrote: »Dr Atkins died. From heart attack. Brought on by congestive heart failure. And weighed like 260 lbs at death.
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yikes. I didn't know that
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You're doing Atkins wrong then... the new version starts you at Keto-level, then brings you up. Eat your spinach and kale and cucumbers. The booklet even states that vegetables are going to be your main source of carbs, and it's not hard to get your fill of vegetables on low-carb diets.0
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hollyrayburn wrote: »Dr Atkins died. From heart attack. Brought on by congestive heart failure. And weighed like 260 lbs at death.
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This is not true. At age 72, he slipped on some ice, hit his head, and had bleeding around his brain. He died from the brain injury. He did have heart troubles during his life that were believed to have been caused by a virus, not his diet. But people like to spread rumors.0 -
hollyrayburn wrote: »Dr Atkins died. From heart attack. Brought on by congestive heart failure. And weighed like 260 lbs at death.
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This is not true. At age 72, he slipped on some ice, hit his head, and had bleeding around his brain. He died from the brain injury. He did have heart troubles during his life that were believed to have been caused by a virus, not his diet. But people like to spread rumors.
I see this now, and thanks for clearing that up.
I still don't "believe" in Atkins (note I've been on many a fad diet in my history; I dont think I ever truly did Atkins, although I have, and will on occasion have one of their frozen meals or snack bars).0 -
Why are you doing Atkins, as opposed to just a deficit? Sounds like you have your goal set too aggressively.0
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Maybe try counting your calories weekly instead of daily. This way, if you go over your limit of 1200 on a couple days you can make up for it on other days.0
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If you are losing 2 lbs per week, you don't need to be at 1200. I'm 5'3, 125, and can lose on 1700.
One thing you might not realize (MFP could be clearer) is that the calorie estimate you get does NOT take into account your exercise, but assumes you don't do any. As a result, if you exercise you should either ask for a lower weekly loss rate (like .5, and 1400 is a lot easier than 1200, IME, if that's what you get) or increase your activity rate (in fact, if you walk a reasonable amount you are probably lightly active, not sedentary) or use a different method like TDEE-20%. OR, do what MFP actually intends, which is to add back in some of your exercise calories. Under any of these you would still lose and not be expected to eat 1200, which is probably unnecessary.
As for Atkins, as others have said it's only the first stage that's super low carb. Why not skip past that stage or just do some other version of low carb if you want to try it. I believe it's common to count net carbs too, which allows most non starchy vegetables in larger amounts.
I don't have an interest in low carbing myself, so am no expert, but would recommend that you search for and check out the low carb groups here, where you can get advice from people experienced in doing it.0 -
What is your activity level like? Have you checked out the TDEE method of losing weight? If not, it might be worth it, cause you are young and should probably be eating more food.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ (figure out your TDEE and take a 15% deficit). This would be how much you eat every single day. You would not "count" exercise calories as they are part of your TDEE.0 -
BeTheChange352 wrote: »are you active? then eat some of those exercise calories back!
Yep yep! The 1400 calories you got from 0.5 lbs per week is without exercise if you're doing the MFP method. When you add exercise, you get to eat more
So your choices are: log your exercises and eat at least some of those calories back to get more food
Do the TDEE method to try to find a number greater than 1400 calories to eat everyday, another poster has given some links
You could also consider bigger meals and less eating frequency or vice versa. One of those options might work better for you as far as satiety over the course of the days
If you do a search for past posts, there will be some where people are asking those with 1200 cal targets to share their open diaries. Those could give you some ideas, too
I haven't plugged in the numbers to see where 138 is on the bmi scale for someone your height. Could you share why you want to lose weight? There may be some other options0 -
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BeTheChange352 wrote: »are you active? then eat some of those exercise calories back!
Yep yep! The 1400 calories you got from 0.5 lbs per week is without exercise if you're doing the MFP method. When you add exercise, you get to eat more
So your choices are: log your exercises and eat at least some of those calories back to get more food
Do the TDEE method to try to find a number greater than 1400 calories to eat everyday, another poster has given some links
You could also consider bigger meals and less eating frequency or vice versa. One of those options might work better for you as far as satiety over the course of the days
If you do a search for past posts, there will be some where people are asking those with 1200 cal targets to share their open diaries. Those could give you some ideas, too
I haven't plugged in the numbers to see where 138 is on the bmi scale for someone your height. Could you share why you want to lose weight? There may be some other options
I go to the gym 2-3 times a week and walk 2-2.5 miles 2-3 times per week. When I go the gym, I lift weights, so I'm not sure how many calories that burns.
138 is around 26 BMI, I think. I just don't like how I look right now and I want to get in shape before a few events that are coming up.
I entered my info into the calculator and found that my TDEE is around 1900-2200, depending on if I put in lightly active or moderately active. That seems high, but I think I'll eat at 1500 for the next week and see how it turns up.
I'd like to thank everyone who offered nice, productive advice.0 -
Then up the calories. I was at 1200, and found myself cheating and bingeing. I changed the goal to 1400. I am still losing, just not hungry and much happier.
Diet fail, is when you make it so draconian you can't sustain lasting change. And LCHF, you should have higher calories, and just watching carbs, not calories.0 -
hollyrayburn wrote: »Dr Atkins died. From heart attack. Brought on by congestive heart failure. And weighed like 260 lbs at death.
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From being in a coma, from a FALL on ice at age 72. Don't just take the 'evidence' at face value, actually state the FACTS.
Renal failure is the listed cause of death, and he had substantial amounts of fluid in his body. Some of that contributed as well.
I don't follow low carb, but I hate when people make up (or use half truths) to try and make others do things the way they see fit.
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macgurlnet wrote: »You lose out on calories because you're short. If I set my goal at 1lb a week, I get 1200 also. I did that for about 2 months. (I'm 5 feet tall, started at 140 lbs and I'm down to 130 lbs now).
Could I make sure I was satisfied anyway? Yeah but it was tough. I tried to eat as much protein as possible and ate lots of veggies if I got the munchies.
I'm shooting for 0.5lb per week now, which means I get around 1400 calories.
Reset to lose 0.5lb a week, and, if you aren't exercising, I would recommend getting moving - you can eat back 50%-75% of the calories you earn from exercise and that can help too.
~Lyssa
I did the exact same thing recently (switched from 1200 to 1400) because I am close to goal. Are you still losing at 1400?0 -
macgurlnet wrote: »You lose out on calories because you're short. If I set my goal at 1lb a week, I get 1200 also. I did that for about 2 months. (I'm 5 feet tall, started at 140 lbs and I'm down to 130 lbs now).
Could I make sure I was satisfied anyway? Yeah but it was tough. I tried to eat as much protein as possible and ate lots of veggies if I got the munchies.
I'm shooting for 0.5lb per week now, which means I get around 1400 calories.
Reset to lose 0.5lb a week, and, if you aren't exercising, I would recommend getting moving - you can eat back 50%-75% of the calories you earn from exercise and that can help too.
~Lyssa
I did the exact same thing recently (switched from 1200 to 1400) because I am close to goal. Are you still losing at 1400?
I only just made the switch this past Friday - I caught a cold a couple weeks ago and had MFP set to "maintain current weight" while I recovered so I was eating around 1600-1700.
I'll hopefully know in a couple weeks if I'm still losing.
~Lyssa
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I'm also 5'2". I've lost 9lbs so far by eating around 1200! I make lots of home made soups which help fill me up and are low cal. I've tried Atkins in the past but found that I was hungry too! I think it can be difficult if you are on the short side and especially if you don't exercise much. I have a desk job so don't have much flexibility in my cals either.
I agree with adding more veggies especially if you are hungry, as like others have said if you are hungry you are more likely to binge, especially at weekends.... i know i do!
Good luck on your journey.0 -
happyfeetrebel1 wrote: »hollyrayburn wrote: »Dr Atkins died. From heart attack. Brought on by congestive heart failure. And weighed like 260 lbs at death.
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From being in a coma, from a FALL on ice at age 72. Don't just take the 'evidence' at face value, actually state the FACTS.
Renal failure is the listed cause of death, and he had substantial amounts of fluid in his body. Some of that contributed as well.
I don't follow low carb, but I hate when people make up (or use half truths) to try and make others do things the way they see fit.
Anddddd as previously mentioned above, I see that was incorrect information I had been given.
It doesn't change the fact I think he was a money hungry quack that was FOS. But I can't force someone to not follow such a plan. Just as I don't try to get people to stop burning flags or reading the Bible.0
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