All calories are not created equal

dpgalbreath
dpgalbreath Posts: 26 Member
edited November 2024 in Food and Nutrition
I have noticed when my carb count is above 30% on any given day my weight loss stops. Just counting calories isn't the only deciding factor for success in my weight loss.
I'm sure if I were more active that the carbs would burn off quickly and not affect the weight loss as much.
So now that the weather is clearing up the dogs and I are going to be
Out there pouring on the steam and it is back to spinach salads and chicken breast, boiled eggs, and grapefruit and less bread and potatoes.
Even though my calorie count has been 100-300 lower Than suggested before any activity has been calculated everyday my weight loss stopped, and it is way to early in the game for that to be happening.
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  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    From what you wrote in the OP you do not know how this process works. Macro distribution does not matter for weight loss. Unless there is a medical issue.
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  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Calories from carbs can affect your weight, but it does not affect your weight from fat. For fat loss you need a calorie deficit. But carbs can affect your water weight. How much varies from person to person.
  • Charliegottheruns
    Charliegottheruns Posts: 286 Member
    About 25% of the adult population produces excessive insulin in response to rapidly absorbed carbohydrates. These insulin-resistant individuals increase their risk for obesity by consistently consuming such a diet. Weight gain occurs because excessive insulin facilitates glucose oxidation at the expense of fatty acid oxidation; it also stimulates fat storage in adipose tissue. The insulin surge in response to high-glycemic carbohydrate intake often abnormally decreases blood glucose. This “rebound hypoglycemia” sets off hunger signals that may trigger overeating. A repetitive scenario of high blood sugar followed by low blood sugar exerts the most profound effect on sedentary obese individuals who show the greatest insulin resistance and an exaggerated insulin response to a blood glucose challenge.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    About 25% of the adult population produces excessive insulin in response to rapidly absorbed carbohydrates. These insulin-resistant individuals increase their risk for obesity by consistently consuming such a diet. Weight gain occurs because excessive insulin facilitates glucose oxidation at the expense of fatty acid oxidation; it also stimulates fat storage in adipose tissue. The insulin surge in response to high-glycemic carbohydrate intake often abnormally decreases blood glucose. This “rebound hypoglycemia” sets off hunger signals that may trigger overeating. A repetitive scenario of high blood sugar followed by low blood sugar exerts the most profound effect on sedentary obese individuals who show the greatest insulin resistance and an exaggerated insulin response to a blood glucose challenge.

    But you are talking about fast digesting carbs triggering overeating. If the OP is eating less then this is not her problem.

    Of course, she could simply be calculating her intake incorrectly.
  • WillLift4Tats
    WillLift4Tats Posts: 1,699 Member
    All calories are not created equal.

    Some are more delicious :blush:

    But this is true.
    Calories from carbs can affect your weight, but it does not affect your weight from fat. For fat loss you need a calorie deficit. But carbs can affect your water weight. How much varies from person to person.

  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
    All calories are not created equal.

    Some are more delicious :blush:

    But this is true.
    Calories from carbs can affect your weight, but it does not affect your weight from fat. For fat loss you need a calorie deficit. But carbs can affect your water weight. How much varies from person to person.

    All true. It's just calories in vs calories out. This water weight people speak of isn't a concerning factor or anything to worry about unless you have less than 5 lbs to lose for your goal. Just keep in your calorie goal and you're all set.

  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    All calories are not created equal.

    Some are more delicious :blush:

    But this is true.
    Calories from carbs can affect your weight, but it does not affect your weight from fat. For fat loss you need a calorie deficit. But carbs can affect your water weight. How much varies from person to person.

    All true. It's just calories in vs calories out. This water weight people speak of isn't a concerning factor or anything to worry about unless you have less than 5 lbs to lose for your goal. Just keep in your calorie goal and you're all set.

    I disagree that water weight is not a concern unless you are near goal. Water weight can be pretty big factor for some.
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    If you not losing then you are not in a deficit. OP do weigh your solid foods??....measure liquids??
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,325 Member
    Oh boy, people confusing a mathematical and thermal equation with food, again.
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,646 Member
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  • EvanKeel
    EvanKeel Posts: 1,903 Member
    edited March 2015
    I really dislike these threads. The OP posts about their experience, which no one can validate one way or the other. So we have to take it on faith that everything is as they say it is. It's all only correlations anyway. And then there's some implication that their own personal experience, which may not be as accurately observed as they suggest, can be generalized out. Thus, the second someone tries to refute any claim, it becomes a "well I'm just saying this works for me..." argument.

    Not saying that's what's going on (yet), but it's why I don't like this kind of thing.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Do you mean if your carbs are above 30% in a given day you don't lose weight that day?

    I don't know if is possible to track weight loss by macros in a specific day -- some days I eat great and don't see a result on the scale the next day. Other days I do just okay and see a lower weight the next morning. Weight loss just isn't that neat. Judging by what you eat on a single day just doesn't seem logical.
  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    I wish people starting out wouldn't make broad sweeping generalizations. So much info is missing in this post. Are you weighing your food? What are you doing for exercise (gym? Sweeping your floor?), and more importantly, how many calories are you logging for your exercise, and what percentage of exercise calories are you eating back. What is your goal weekly loss, how accurate is your logging? How long have you been stalled? 3 days? A week? 3 months?

    It's normal to stop losing for 5 days or even a week, and then have a drop.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,058 Member
    On a measurement on the energy scale...................they are. Macros can affect others differently, however CICO is still prevalent when it comes down to weight loss/gain/maintenance if one is in good general health.

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  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    I have noticed when my carb count is above 30% on any given day my weight loss stops. Just counting calories isn't the only deciding factor for success in my weight loss.

    Would need more information, but at first glance this sounds like glycogen replenishment, which is essentially water weight gain. If so, these would be the pounds you'd regain anyway, after your diet is finished and you go to maintenance.

    Would be helpful to see you diary.

    :drinker:

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    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
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  • dpgalbreath
    dpgalbreath Posts: 26 Member
    Lol!!! at you all. Get over yourselves people. These are just MY observations about MY experiences, I did not just fall off the cabbage truck and I'm not telling anyone how to eat. If it OFFENDS you that I'm telling you what I have noticed then I guess you all will have to GET OVER IT!!!
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  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Lol!!! at you all. Get over yourselves people. These are just MY observations about MY experiences, I did not just fall off the cabbage truck and I'm not telling anyone how to eat. If it OFFENDS you that I'm telling you what I have noticed then I guess you all will have to GET OVER IT!!!

    If it offends you that people respond to your observations, perhaps you should get over it.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Lol!!! at you all. Get over yourselves people. These are just MY observations about MY experiences, I did not just fall off the cabbage truck and I'm not telling anyone how to eat. If it OFFENDS you that I'm telling you what I have noticed then I guess you all will have to GET OVER IT!!!
    You made a statement in the title like that and thought no one would comment on it disagreeing with you? You must be new here.
    I prefer the term green over "new"
  • Cortelli
    Cortelli Posts: 1,369 Member
    "Cabbage truck"?

    Anyway OP - as others have pointed out, bumping up carbohydrate intake beyond "normal" (whatever it means for the person at issue) can often "stall" or "slow" weight loss. But this is water weight fluctuation as opposed to fat gains or reduction in fat losses. Just like a big increase in sodium can add some water retention, which affects scale weight but not necessarily fat loss efforts. The scale weight isn't the be-all, end-all measurement for one's weight loss efforts.
  • MindySaysWhaaat
    MindySaysWhaaat Posts: 401 Member
    Hm. My carb intake has been WAYYYY over 30% (More like between 50-60%, and I've still managed to lose an average of 2 pounds a week in the 71 days I've been using MFP.

    That's just my observation :)
  • Lezavargas
    Lezavargas Posts: 223 Member
    About 25% of the adult population produces excessive insulin in response to rapidly absorbed carbohydrates. These insulin-resistant individuals increase their risk for obesity by consistently consuming such a diet. Weight gain occurs because excessive insulin facilitates glucose oxidation at the expense of fatty acid oxidation; it also stimulates fat storage in adipose tissue. The insulin surge in response to high-glycemic carbohydrate intake often abnormally decreases blood glucose. This “rebound hypoglycemia” sets off hunger signals that may trigger overeating. A repetitive scenario of high blood sugar followed by low blood sugar exerts the most profound effect on sedentary obese individuals who show the greatest insulin resistance and an exaggerated insulin response to a blood glucose challenge.

    Great to have such an educated individual as one of my support group!
  • Phoenix_Down
    Phoenix_Down Posts: 530 Member
    Lol!!! at you all. Get over yourselves people. These are just MY observations about MY experiences, I did not just fall off the cabbage truck and I'm not telling anyone how to eat. If it OFFENDS you that I'm telling you what I have noticed then I guess you all will have to GET OVER IT!!!

    So, I'm taking it you're not going to take suggestions and observations from people in this thread that aren't subscribing to what you're saying?

    I've noticed I lost more weight when I stick to my calorie goal that keeps me in a deficit. Which includes ice cream a lot.

    It just mean ice cream= weight loss.
  • Lezavargas
    Lezavargas Posts: 223 Member
    I have noticed when my carb count is above 30% on any given day my weight loss stops. Just counting calories isn't the only deciding factor for success in my weight loss.
    I'm sure if I were more active that the carbs would burn off quickly and not affect the weight loss as much.
    So now that the weather is clearing up the dogs and I are going to be
    Out there pouring on the steam and it is back to spinach salads and chicken breast, boiled eggs, and grapefruit and less bread and potatoes.
    Even though my calorie count has been 100-300 lower Than suggested before any activity has been calculated everyday my weight loss stopped, and it is way to early in the game for that to be happening.

    I run into the same issue. i stay away from refined sugars and processed food most of the time but i find that any breads (even if i make them myself) or pastas in particular stiffle my weightloss. Other carbs dont have the same effect. Everyone's body is different. Listen to the signals that your body sends you. Nobody knows better than you how certain foods are impacting you. Best of luck!
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited March 2015
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    From what you wrote in the OP you do not know how this process works. Macro distribution does not matter for weight loss. Unless there is a medical issue.

    That's not really correct outside of a narrow theoretical sense, as many people find certain macro ratios easies to handle than others, especially when in a state of caloric deficit.

    Macro distribution may not matter for working out CICO equations, but in the real world where real people have to implement and stick to actual meal plans, macros absolutely do matter, for many (possibly most) people.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    edited March 2015
    Lol!!! at you all. Get over yourselves people. These are just MY observations about MY experiences, I did not just fall off the cabbage truck and I'm not telling anyone how to eat. If it OFFENDS you that I'm telling you what I have noticed then I guess you all will have to GET OVER IT!!!

    You had replies that were not offensive or rude.
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