Anorexic v.s. Fat Words Hurt

Now of days society is so concerned with bullying, which I agree is wrong. People forget that every name you can be called also has an opposite. Often times I am told to go eat something that I'm too skinny. Ones metabolism can work both ways, I can eat what ever I please and never gain a pound. Some say I'm lucky, some say I'm cursed, and others say I'm anorexic. What is your opinion on the topic, and what would you suggest to help healthy weight gain. (Protein shakes? Creatine? Ect)
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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    eat all the things.
    lift all the things.

    no special sauce or secret- calorie surplus and weight lifting.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    My daughter is naturally slim, but these days she credits the paper route she covered when she was a teen. She also tolerated comments like you describe, which annoyed her no end. She knew and I knew she ate well. I've been guilty of commenting here and there on her slimness (never anorexic! Never!). Sorry.

    If you are already eating a balanced diet, adding calories from any source does no harm. Eat what you enjoy. High calorie foods are more efficient.

    Here's an example for totally different reasons. Post bariatric patients are told to "eat your protein first" because protein deficiency is a known problem from this surgery. But from the very beginning I enjoyed my entire plate, eating small bites from every food group. It was easier on my stomach, it was pleasing to me, and I still managed to get "all my protein in". I've had very few post-surgery complications. However, some women in my support group who are still trying to "get their protein in" are struggling. And miserable. It's really tough to digest a lump of protein all by itself, especially if a stomach is compromised through surgery.

    So if others see your slimness as a "problem" and you try and "fix" at every meal, I imagine it can get pretty miserable. So enjoy it all. Pick higher calorie options more often. But most of all love being you.

    Have you thought of high fat options like nuts, cheeses?
  • jenniferinfl
    jenniferinfl Posts: 456 Member
    I guess as a long time fat person, I would have adored being called skinny. Would you love to be called fat as an alternative to skinny? I'm just curious if it works like that for people tired of being called skinny.

    I don't know why people would fight being naturally slim. It's the ideal. Has your doctor told you that you should gain weight? If it's just a couple people making rude remarks, cut those people out of your life. However, more than likely "eat a cheeseburger" is stated in jealousy, not disgust. Since any fat person would take being called skinny as a compliment, they may not understand why you take it as an insult.

    I don't think there's a person on the face of the earth that would want to be called fat. But, I would guess a good 40% of the population who wishes they could be called skinny.

    Now, if you want to gain muscle, that's a completely different discussion. For that, weight training and eating more than your maintenance calories is the key.

  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    Cheese. Lots of cheese.
  • Thanks ladies, Like your daughter I do work on my feet and live a very active life style so yes that does help. I do enjoy my proteins at meal time, and cheese is never missing from my diet either because I'm in love with dairy! Any suggestions for supplements tho, what kinds, how much, how often, for how long?
  • Timorous_Beastie
    Timorous_Beastie Posts: 595 Member
    edited March 2015
    I used to be very thin without trying. I didn't mind too much being called skinny. Heck, I was. Being told I was shapeless, flat-chested, looked like a boy, ugly, gross, 'only a dog likes a bone,' etc. That wasn't so pleasant.

    Honestly, at your age, unless your doctor is concerned about your weight, I wouldn't worry about gaining. I had a "growth spurt" around age 25-26 and suddenly had a curvier body. (Then I got a desk job and a husband and got a *much* curvier body, but that's besides the point.)
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    gothchiq wrote: »
    Cheese. Lots of cheese.
    With buckets of wine!
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Thanks ladies, Like your daughter I do work on my feet and live a very active life style so yes that does help. I do enjoy my proteins at meal time, and cheese is never missing from my diet either because I'm in love with dairy! Any suggestions for supplements tho, what kinds, how much, how often, for how long?

    You don't need supplements, just enough calories.

    Nuts, seeds, full day dairy, fattier meats like beef, pork and lamb, plenty of carbs!
  • sofaking6
    sofaking6 Posts: 4,589 Member
    edited March 2015
    Deep fry some cheese curds and dip them in Thousand Island dressing. Accompany with some wheat beer. Chocolate lava cake for dessert.
    Repeat!

    PS I definitely think you're lucky, but I would never call you anorexic. To your face ;)
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    My mother was extremely thin her entire life, and moreso as she got older. She could never eat enough to gain weight. She would get sick if she over ate. She was not anorexic, she did not like being so thin. She would wear long sleeves and slacks even on the hottest days of summer when going out in public, because she didn't want to put up with comments or have people stare at her skinny arms or legs.

    People flat out asked her if she was anorexic. She tried drinking Ensure shakes...didn't work.

    I do believe that she had some other issue internally going on. She did go to a family doctor, who could find nothing wrong. She saw some holistic health practitioners (whom I dub "quacks") who told her to take herbs and drink juices etc.

    Anyway, I understand the offense when people say things like that about being skinny. When I was a youngster I was pretty thin - and people called me Skinny Minnie and stuff like that. I didn't take offence at the time though I found it irritating. I couldn't "help" the way I was (unlike now, lol...90lbs overweight, yeah I can "help" that, lol)

    People should just keep their mouths shut about other people's bodies unless it's to say something nice. It's really nobody else's business...if you are thin, slender, chubby, or obese.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    You'll only gain muscle if you're doing a progressive lifting programme in a calorie surplus. If you're over on carbs you must be lower on either fat or protein?
  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    I guess as a long time fat person, I would have adored being called skinny. Would you love to be called fat as an alternative to skinny? I'm just curious if it works like that for people tired of being called skinny.

    I don't know why people would fight being naturally slim. It's the ideal. Has your doctor told you that you should gain weight? If it's just a couple people making rude remarks, cut those people out of your life. However, more than likely "eat a cheeseburger" is stated in jealousy, not disgust. Since any fat person would take being called skinny as a compliment, they may not understand why you take it as an insult.

    I don't think there's a person on the face of the earth that would want to be called fat. But, I would guess a good 40% of the population who wishes they could be called skinny.

    Now, if you want to gain muscle, that's a completely different discussion. For that, weight training and eating more than your maintenance calories is the key.

    Yeah, NO. It's not "fun" to be called skinny, shrimpy, to have bigger kids shove you around on the playground because they are literally twice your size. It's not fun to come out of the bathroom in college to find a group of girls with their ears to the door because "you HAVE to be throwing up in there to eat all you do and be that thin!"

  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    I don't know why people would fight being naturally slim. It's the ideal....

    snip snip

    I don't think there's a person on the face of the earth that would want to be called fat. But, I would guess a good 40% of the population who wishes they could be called skinny.


    being skinny is not the ideal. According to mainstream media and models- it's "ideal" but in real life- it is not.

    secondly- I don't want to be called skinny- or fat. And I think a great deal of people don't want either of those labels either. It doesn't matter which way you hack it- making fun of someone for what they look like isnt' nice- and no matter what you think as a former/current fat person- you can't project your feelings on to someone else who struggles with other issues.

    I'd rather be told I have a fat a22 than a skinny a22-so there is that. Not everyone's goals and perceptions are the same.
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    I guess as a long time fat person, I would have adored being called skinny. Would you love to be called fat as an alternative to skinny? I'm just curious if it works like that for people tired of being called skinny.

    I don't know why people would fight being naturally slim. It's the ideal. Has your doctor told you that you should gain weight? If it's just a couple people making rude remarks, cut those people out of your life. However, more than likely "eat a cheeseburger" is stated in jealousy, not disgust. Since any fat person would take being called skinny as a compliment, they may not understand why you take it as an insult.

    I don't think there's a person on the face of the earth that would want to be called fat. But, I would guess a good 40% of the population who wishes they could be called skinny.

    Now, if you want to gain muscle, that's a completely different discussion. For that, weight training and eating more than your maintenance calories is the key.
    This is all terms of no.

    No one wants negative comments, either side of the spectrum.

  • allaboutthecake
    allaboutthecake Posts: 1,535 Member
    At age 19, develop healthy well-balanced foods in your life paired with your favorite activity. This will serve you well as you age and morph into a full-grownup adult woman. (*think 30s, 40s 50s etc.) Don't pay attention to those who are negative.
  • palwithme
    palwithme Posts: 860 Member
    My parents came to visit me after my son was born. I opened the door and the first words out of my Dad's mouth were..You are obese! I was about 213 at the time. It bothered me mostly because I was thrilled about my new baby, but all he could see was my weight. He commented on it the entire visit.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Personally I want to be a rockin' grandma.
  • Alassonde
    Alassonde Posts: 228 Member
    I guess as a long time fat person, I would have adored being called skinny. Would you love to be called fat as an alternative to skinny? I'm just curious if it works like that for people tired of being called skinny.

    I don't know why people would fight being naturally slim. It's the ideal. Has your doctor told you that you should gain weight? If it's just a couple people making rude remarks, cut those people out of your life. However, more than likely "eat a cheeseburger" is stated in jealousy, not disgust. Since any fat person would take being called skinny as a compliment, they may not understand why you take it as an insult.

    I don't think there's a person on the face of the earth that would want to be called fat. But, I would guess a good 40% of the population who wishes they could be called skinny.

    Now, if you want to gain muscle, that's a completely different discussion. For that, weight training and eating more than your maintenance calories is the key.

    In my own experience, I tried and tried to gain weight because I was bullied unmercifully. I had people physically pushing me around, drawing stick people and labeling them with my name, following me into the bathroom to make sure I wasn't throwing up, and calling me every possible nasty name that you can associate with being skinny. Some comments I got even as an adult:
    "You need to gain some weight. You look sick all the time."
    "Eat more burgers. Don't you know men don't like skinny women?"
    "If you just gained a few pounds, you would look great in that dress."
    "Don't stand sideways, no one will be able to see you."
    I had teachers digging my lunch bag out of the trash at school to make sure I had eaten all my food.
    It's all in how the comments are presented. If someone says, "Oh, you have such a tiny waist!" I consider that a compliment. When they say you look sick and need to gain weight, that is not a compliment. I had people telling me basically I was a terrible person when I was pregnant because I was too skinny and it wasn't healthy for my baby (not according to my doctor). I COULD NOT gain weight. Gaining weight is no longer a problem for me, but I still get beyond angry every time I hear the "real women have curves" that is so popular now.
    I would think that it would be nice if people could not call other people fat or skinny. I think that would be awesome.
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    I would say it depends on the situation. Several people have called me skinny, which doesn't really bother me. However, it wasn't like "oh, you look so sick as you're so skinny". In that case, I would take offense. One person I know basically told me that while I may be skinny now, that I should just wait until I get older. Another person wondered how I can eat cake and still stay skinny.

    In regards to being able to eat anything and not gain weight, I see it both ways. There aren't very many of us in that category (and a lot of people I know could stand to lose some weight), so in that way I would consider it luck. However, it's not such a blessing when it comes to trying to build muscle. That being said, others have already given some advice to help you gain weight.
  • RoxieDawn
    RoxieDawn Posts: 15,488 Member
    There are two threads going... This exact topic is also under "Introduce Yourslef"....
  • Emilio_C
    Emilio_C Posts: 1
    edited March 2015
    I use to be really skinny, I was 119lbs. 6'0 before I started lifting. I started lifting about 5 days a week for 1-2 hours a day. When I first started I took mass gainer shakes & tried to hit 5,000 calories a day which most of the time I hit. I have a very fast metabolism too so I wasn't concerned about fat. Three years later I'm at 165lbs. solid muscle with a tiny bit of fat in my lower abs. I just stopped taking mass gainers & I'm on whey & creatine. I dropped most of the fat in my stomach area in around a week & a half. Creatine Monohydrate (Creapure) is GREAT, I just started taking it & my strength has really gone up.
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    being called "skinny b1tch" hurts. I used to be fat, now I am thin, and when someone calls you that, it actually isnt very nice at all.
  • sofaking6
    sofaking6 Posts: 4,589 Member
    being called "skinny b1tch" hurts. I used to be fat, now I am thin, and when someone calls you that, it actually isnt very nice at all.

    So you say, and I believe you, but I cannot believe that I would personally be anything but ecstatic to hear that.
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    sofaking6 wrote: »
    being called "skinny b1tch" hurts. I used to be fat, now I am thin, and when someone calls you that, it actually isnt very nice at all.

    So you say, and I believe you, but I cannot believe that I would personally be anything but ecstatic to hear that.
    i know i know, I thought I'd love hearing that too. but it was pretty biting.

    Now, I hear Im too uptight around food, and that Im a *kitten* because I dont engage in the same eating behaviors I used to. Its a bit like being called a combination of nazi and anorexic.
  • carynrequejo
    carynrequejo Posts: 9 Member
    People can be so mean sometimes! I can't tell you how many times I've had so called "girlfriends" say the rudest things about my weight. They think it's okay because I'm skinny. They wouldn't dare comment about someone who was overweight. Rude is rude!
  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    Alassonde wrote: »
    I guess as a long time fat person, I would have adored being called skinny. Would you love to be called fat as an alternative to skinny? I'm just curious if it works like that for people tired of being called skinny.

    I don't know why people would fight being naturally slim. It's the ideal. Has your doctor told you that you should gain weight? If it's just a couple people making rude remarks, cut those people out of your life. However, more than likely "eat a cheeseburger" is stated in jealousy, not disgust. Since any fat person would take being called skinny as a compliment, they may not understand why you take it as an insult.

    I don't think there's a person on the face of the earth that would want to be called fat. But, I would guess a good 40% of the population who wishes they could be called skinny.

    Now, if you want to gain muscle, that's a completely different discussion. For that, weight training and eating more than your maintenance calories is the key.

    In my own experience, I tried and tried to gain weight because I was bullied unmercifully. I had people physically pushing me around, drawing stick people and labeling them with my name, following me into the bathroom to make sure I wasn't throwing up, and calling me every possible nasty name that you can associate with being skinny. Some comments I got even as an adult:
    "You need to gain some weight. You look sick all the time."
    "Eat more burgers. Don't you know men don't like skinny women?"
    "If you just gained a few pounds, you would look great in that dress."
    "Don't stand sideways, no one will be able to see you."
    I had teachers digging my lunch bag out of the trash at school to make sure I had eaten all my food.
    It's all in how the comments are presented. If someone says, "Oh, you have such a tiny waist!" I consider that a compliment. When they say you look sick and need to gain weight, that is not a compliment. I had people telling me basically I was a terrible person when I was pregnant because I was too skinny and it wasn't healthy for my baby (not according to my doctor). I COULD NOT gain weight. Gaining weight is no longer a problem for me, but I still get beyond angry every time I hear the "real women have curves" that is so popular now.
    I would think that it would be nice if people could not call other people fat or skinny. I think that would be awesome.

    Amen. I think it's really interesting how similar some of the bullying you experienced was to my own life. People really need to be more original. But, then, bullies have never been known for their sharp thinking.

    And, so with you on wanting to drive a stake through "real women have curves."
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    EWJLang wrote: »
    Alassonde wrote: »
    I guess as a long time fat person, I would have adored being called skinny. Would you love to be called fat as an alternative to skinny? I'm just curious if it works like that for people tired of being called skinny.

    I don't know why people would fight being naturally slim. It's the ideal. Has your doctor told you that you should gain weight? If it's just a couple people making rude remarks, cut those people out of your life. However, more than likely "eat a cheeseburger" is stated in jealousy, not disgust. Since any fat person would take being called skinny as a compliment, they may not understand why you take it as an insult.

    I don't think there's a person on the face of the earth that would want to be called fat. But, I would guess a good 40% of the population who wishes they could be called skinny.

    Now, if you want to gain muscle, that's a completely different discussion. For that, weight training and eating more than your maintenance calories is the key.

    In my own experience, I tried and tried to gain weight because I was bullied unmercifully. I had people physically pushing me around, drawing stick people and labeling them with my name, following me into the bathroom to make sure I wasn't throwing up, and calling me every possible nasty name that you can associate with being skinny. Some comments I got even as an adult:
    "You need to gain some weight. You look sick all the time."
    "Eat more burgers. Don't you know men don't like skinny women?"
    "If you just gained a few pounds, you would look great in that dress."
    "Don't stand sideways, no one will be able to see you."
    I had teachers digging my lunch bag out of the trash at school to make sure I had eaten all my food.
    It's all in how the comments are presented. If someone says, "Oh, you have such a tiny waist!" I consider that a compliment. When they say you look sick and need to gain weight, that is not a compliment. I had people telling me basically I was a terrible person when I was pregnant because I was too skinny and it wasn't healthy for my baby (not according to my doctor). I COULD NOT gain weight. Gaining weight is no longer a problem for me, but I still get beyond angry every time I hear the "real women have curves" that is so popular now.
    I would think that it would be nice if people could not call other people fat or skinny. I think that would be awesome.

    Amen. I think it's really interesting how similar some of the bullying you experienced was to my own life. People really need to be more original. But, then, bullies have never been known for their sharp thinking.

    And, so with you on wanting to drive a stake through "real women have curves."

    My personal "favorite" is "meat is for men, bones are for dogs."
  • meganjcallaghan
    meganjcallaghan Posts: 949 Member
    EWJLang wrote: »
    Alassonde wrote: »
    I guess as a long time fat person, I would have adored being called skinny. Would you love to be called fat as an alternative to skinny? I'm just curious if it works like that for people tired of being called skinny.

    I don't know why people would fight being naturally slim. It's the ideal. Has your doctor told you that you should gain weight? If it's just a couple people making rude remarks, cut those people out of your life. However, more than likely "eat a cheeseburger" is stated in jealousy, not disgust. Since any fat person would take being called skinny as a compliment, they may not understand why you take it as an insult.

    I don't think there's a person on the face of the earth that would want to be called fat. But, I would guess a good 40% of the population who wishes they could be called skinny.

    Now, if you want to gain muscle, that's a completely different discussion. For that, weight training and eating more than your maintenance calories is the key.

    In my own experience, I tried and tried to gain weight because I was bullied unmercifully. I had people physically pushing me around, drawing stick people and labeling them with my name, following me into the bathroom to make sure I wasn't throwing up, and calling me every possible nasty name that you can associate with being skinny. Some comments I got even as an adult:
    "You need to gain some weight. You look sick all the time."
    "Eat more burgers. Don't you know men don't like skinny women?"
    "If you just gained a few pounds, you would look great in that dress."
    "Don't stand sideways, no one will be able to see you."
    I had teachers digging my lunch bag out of the trash at school to make sure I had eaten all my food.
    It's all in how the comments are presented. If someone says, "Oh, you have such a tiny waist!" I consider that a compliment. When they say you look sick and need to gain weight, that is not a compliment. I had people telling me basically I was a terrible person when I was pregnant because I was too skinny and it wasn't healthy for my baby (not according to my doctor). I COULD NOT gain weight. Gaining weight is no longer a problem for me, but I still get beyond angry every time I hear the "real women have curves" that is so popular now.
    I would think that it would be nice if people could not call other people fat or skinny. I think that would be awesome.

    Amen. I think it's really interesting how similar some of the bullying you experienced was to my own life. People really need to be more original. But, then, bullies have never been known for their sharp thinking.

    And, so with you on wanting to drive a stake through "real women have curves."

    preach. i like to respond with "no, real women have XX chromosomes."
  • Hearts_2015
    Hearts_2015 Posts: 12,031 Member
    gia07 wrote: »
    There are two threads going... This exact topic is also under "Introduce Yourslef"....

    It's confusing when members do that. ugh Probably why there's a rule that says no duplicate threads! :#
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