104 Lbs lost and cured thanks to clean eating!

congrats on clean eating allowing you to eat fewer calories. Works for many other people as well.

Congrats on improving your health!

thecunninglinguist wrote: »

im not sure why clean eating gets bashed on here so often. its clearly superior in every way except for taste (and maybe cost/conveinience), and thats preference. to me "clean" or healthy foods taste better

you never see someone who only eats traditional healthy foods and is obese. its possible, but it just doesnt happen

Proof, and in this thread no less!
See below:

lemurcat12 wrote: »

I ate lots of pastured beef, free range chicken, and in-season veggies from the farm when I was getting fat, as well as when I was losing. It was the calories, not the food source, that did it.

I lost because I modified my cooking methods and portion sizes, among other things.

I just get annoyed by the assumption that "chemical additives" that probably have few calories are what make people fat (I tend to focus on whole foods, but for ethical, local, and personal issues, as well as because I enjoy cooking, not because I think those ingredients or eating non-organic or the like makes you fat). I also get annoyed by the assumption that anyone who gets fat must be eating from a box and anyone eating from a box must be or remain fat. It's really much simpler.

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thecunninglinguist wrote: »

im not sure why clean eating gets bashed on here so often. its clearly superior in every way except for taste (and maybe cost/conveinience), and thats preference. to me "clean" or healthy foods taste better

you never see someone who only eats traditional healthy foods and is obese. its possible, but it just doesnt happen

It is bashed because people come in an criticize everything and everyone who is not clean eating. Nothing wrong with it if you want to avoid things, but people shouldn't praise it as the only way to go. A calorie deficit is what allows people to lose weight.

thecunninglinguist wrote: »

im not sure why clean eating gets bashed on here so often.

Because "clean eating" means nothing. Lots of people who say they "eat clean" eat just as many or more processed foods as I do, so I don't get why they claim to eat in some special way. Also, while I personally like cooking from whole foods, I'm not sure why people think they are following a special diet because they do.

Also, it really has nothing to do with weight loss unless you were eating lots of fast food before or some such. In particular, people go on about eating "lean meat" or lower calorie items, but that's not clean eating in any rational understanding of the term--when I focus on getting well-sourced meat (as I understand it) it's often less lean, as I'm less likely to get very low fat ground beef or turkey "bacon" or skinless, boneless chicken breast, think it's important to try to eat the whole animal (not just the leanest parts), and typically get fattier breeds of pork than are available at the store. I also would feel terrible wasting egg yolks and am more likely to have only full fat dairy as an option.

And I can still cook with as much olive oil or butter as I like.

This is why I think "clean eating" isn't really some kind of diet. Is eating from whole foods (if we can avoid that dumb term) and caring about the source of your food something of value otherwise? I personally think so, but I'd never define as a "clean eater" or think that means I can't eat ice cream or homemade apple pie on occasion.

its clearly superior in every way except for taste (and maybe cost/conveinience), and thats preference. to me "clean" or healthy foods taste better

Yes, if you don't think it tastes better, you are doing it wrong (or shouldn't be doing it). I cook from whole foods because I like that way of eating far better than eating from pre-packaged foods for the most part. Again, not because it's some kind of weird "diet." That's what I'm arguing against.

It would be nice if the actual argument could be addressed on occasion instead of false claims that people are "bashing" a way of eating.

you never see someone who only eats traditional healthy foods and is obese. its possible, but it just doesnt happen

False. It happens plenty.

And mostly it's harder not because the food is different, but because cooking is more work than buying something to eat.

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

abuck_13 wrote: »

thecunninglinguist wrote: »

im not sure why clean eating gets bashed on here so often. its clearly superior in every way except for taste (and maybe cost/conveinience), and thats preference. to me "clean" or healthy foods taste better

you never see someone who only eats traditional healthy foods and is obese. its possible, but it just doesnt happen

It is bashed because people come in an criticize everything and everyone who is not clean eating. Nothing wrong with it if you want to avoid things, but people shouldn't praise it as the only way to go. A calorie deficit is what allows people to lose weight.

That's not what I'm seeing here.

Not here yet, but go and find the clean eating threads, and in the ones I have seen, it becomes "Well, we're eating clean, so we're better than all of you who don't eat clean"

Again, nothing wrong with wanting to avoid processed food and so forth, just shouldn't be said that it is the only way to lose weight and to try and make people who eat processed food feel like they are worthless.

Also, sorry, but "clean" is supposed to mean "non processed," I thought, not "healthy," so you can't just use the terms interchangeably. Even if we buy into the idea that a food out of context can be "healthy" or not, why are processed foods inherently not healthy? I'd consider some smoked salmon or plain Fage 2% greek yogurt "healthy," and yet of course they are processed.

Similarly, while I prefer roasting a whole chicken (and the extra calories that go with that), boneless, skinless chicken breast is perfectly healthy, although processed.

thecunninglinguist wrote: »

im not sure why clean eating gets bashed on here so often. its clearly superior in every way except for taste (and maybe cost/conveinience), and thats preference. to me "clean" or healthy foods taste better

you never see someone who only eats traditional healthy foods and is obese. its possible, but it just doesnt happen

My best friend is vegan and weighs 200 pounds.

OP, congratulations. What works for you doesn't work for me (I would binge if I cut out sweets). I still feel much better than I did 60 pounds ago even eating processed foods.

It looks like the original point was lost here. Clean eating isnt a diet that people use to lose weight, they usually eat better foods to aid in their weight loss. I am a huge fast food and junk food eater. But one day I opted for grilled fish, asparagus, and water for lunch. Usually I feel tired, but not this day. I felt great, not tired, and oddly enough, like I could breathe better lol. That was the point of this post people.