testosterone injections
anthonyopitz87
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Iv been using test for 5 weeks now and I'm seeing great results. I'm 5'11 210lbs I work out 5 days a week .I need to know how.many calories I should be eating each day To build lean muscle without getting fat.
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Anyone?0
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Don't know about the test impact - so what follows doesn't address that.
You need to figure out what your maintenance calories are given your regular activity, and then you need to eat more than that. Commonly adopted calorie surpluses are as low as a few hundred cals to 500 cals in order to provide enough of a surplus to build lean mass and minimize fat gains. Others do more of a "dirty bulk" and eat at higher surpluses in an effort to maximize lean mass gains at the expense of adding more fat. Having said that, even on a small surplus, you have to expect some fat gains; it comes with adding mass.
You'll have to experiment to find what works for you as there are a variety of variables (genetics, current leanness, your training program, age, etc.) that impact how your surplus is going to affect LBM / fat gains. Adding supplemental test is another variable, and one I have no competency to address.0 -
Ok thanks0
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Are the injections for a medically diagnosed low T condition or your own science experiment?0
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anthonyopitz87 wrote: »Iv been using test for 5 weeks now and I'm seeing great results. I'm 5'11 210lbs I work out 5 days a week .I need to know how.many calories I should be eating each day To build lean muscle without getting fat.
I believe calories have nothing to do with your results....what you have to count is your fat, carbs and protein. I would research micronutrients and start trying based on your findings.
I'm 140lbs, 5'9. My recommended numbers are
fat 50g
Carbs 175g
Protein 115g
I'm looking to reduce body fat and build.
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anthonyopitz87 wrote: »Iv been using test for 5 weeks now and I'm seeing great results. I'm 5'11 210lbs I work out 5 days a week .I need to know how.many calories I should be eating each day To build lean muscle without getting fat.
I believe calories have nothing to do with your results....what you have to count is your fat, carbs and protein. I would research micronutrients and start trying based on your findings.
I'm 140lbs, 5'9. My recommended numbers are
fat 50g
Carbs 175g
Protein 115g
I'm looking to reduce body fat and build.
Calories have *everything* to do with adding body mass. An appropriate macro split is well-advised, sure, but not enough calories = no gains.
(That said, if you're tracking fat, carbs, and protein (and alcohol, if you drink) then you are also effectively tracking calories. And your personal macro splits look pretty good assuming your calorie total is on target for your goal, which sounds like recomping. But the OP is taking test and really looking to add mass -- he's concerned about adding fat, yes, but losing fat -- i.e., eating at or below maintenance -- is not a goal he's working towards).
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Slowly increase your calories and watch the scale is your best bet!
If they aren't prescribed and you don't have everything like that worked out you probably shouldn't be using them imo. Steroids get a bad name by people inexperienced at lifting (<3 years training) unintentionally abusing them. Most people aren't mentally ready for them.0 -
I Use 1ml per week I wouldn't say that's abusing It.i am 28yrs old and I was lifting for a year b4 I decided to try test.i want to bulk up without gaining tons of fat.0
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anthonyopitz87 wrote: »Iv been using test for 5 weeks now and I'm seeing great results. I'm 5'11 210lbs I work out 5 days a week .I need to know how.many calories I should be eating each day To build lean muscle without getting fat.
I believe calories have nothing to do with your results....what you have to count is your fat, carbs and protein. I would research micronutrients and start trying based on your findings.
I'm 140lbs, 5'9. My recommended numbers are
fat 50g
Carbs 175g
Protein 115g
I'm looking to reduce body fat and build.
You're right and you're wrong.
Paying attention to fat, carbs and protein is important, so that's correct. But they are just specific types of calories, so saying that calories have nothing to do with it is very much wrong.
OP, the general rule is this - figure out your TDEE, eat slightly above that for a few weeks and evaluate your progress, then tweak as necessary. Aim to gain ~2lbs per month. I'm not sure how test injections will impact that. If I had to guess, and it's really only a guess... I would think the injections will help keep more of that 2lbs per month in muscle and less from fat (though some fat is unavoidable).
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What is TDEE and how do I figure mine?0
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anthonyopitz87 wrote: »I Use 1ml per week I wouldn't say that's abusing It.i am 28yrs old and I was lifting for a year b4 I decided to try test.i want to bulk up without gaining tons of fat.
If it's not coming from a doctor with a prescription in your name you're abusing it. Don' lie to yourself. You're a young guy, you should be able to build just fine without illegal chemicals.
What are your workouts like? Where were you at before you started injecting how much progress are you making in the big lifts and how much weight have you gained since injecting?
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Well it wouldn't be the first time iv done something illegal. But I'm not concerned with how much I can lift only how I look My workouts last about 2 hours and are intense . Since starting the test iv seen changes in size vascularity And tone iv also lost a lot of fat around the stomach area. and the best part is my mood I just feel better all together I don't even use a pre workout anymore. I'm sure I could get the same results without the test but I bet it would take twice the time.0
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I think you're on the wrong boards. Check out bodybuilding.com. Some of those guys have experience with steroid use and can give you better help. Over here the majority of the guys on testosterone are doing it for legitimate hormone therapy.0
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anthonyopitz87 wrote: »I Use 1ml per week I wouldn't say that's abusing It.i am 28yrs old and I was lifting for a year b4 I decided to try test.i want to bulk up without gaining tons of fat.
why are you taking testosterone shots if you are 28?????0 -
anthonyopitz87 wrote: »Well it wouldn't be the first time iv done something illegal. But I'm not concerned with how much I can lift only how I look My workouts last about 2 hours and are intense . Since starting the test iv seen changes in size vascularity And tone iv also lost a lot of fat around the stomach area. and the best part is my mood I just feel better all together I don't even use a pre workout anymore. I'm sure I could get the same results without the test but I bet it would take twice the time.
ignorance is bliss I suppose…..0 -
anthonyopitz87 wrote: »I Use 1ml per week I wouldn't say that's abusing It.i am 28yrs old and I was lifting for a year b4 I decided to try test.i want to bulk up without gaining tons of fat.
why are you taking testosterone shots if you are 28?????
Hey! I know some guys who were diagnosed with low-t before they were 21. Although this guy will probably do more harm than good with his use.0 -
anthonyopitz87 wrote: »I Use 1ml per week I wouldn't say that's abusing It.i am 28yrs old and I was lifting for a year b4 I decided to try test.i want to bulk up without gaining tons of fat.
why are you taking testosterone shots if you are 28?????
Hey! I know some guys who were diagnosed with low-t before they were 21. Although this guy will probably do more harm than good with his use.
really? Low T at 21…?
ok, I stand corrected…
I don't think our "bro" has that problem ...0 -
At 28, there isn’t a single reason I can see for someone to use testosterone injections (you’ll potentially damage your body’s ability to make its own, but if you want to be on injections for the rest of your life and potentially not be able to have children, cool).
Length and intensity of your workouts doesn’t matter for building mass. In fact, they could reduce your overall mass. Instead, you should go with a more hypertrophy based program. Go to BB.com and find something appropriate (which will be easy to complete with intensity in less than 90 minutes). And you should know that building a good strength base will put you in position to build even more mass.0 -
anthonyopitz87 wrote: »Well it wouldn't be the first time iv done something illegal. But I'm not concerned with how much I can lift only how I look My workouts last about 2 hours and are intense . Since starting the test iv seen changes in size vascularity And tone iv also lost a lot of fat around the stomach area. and the best part is my mood I just feel better all together I don't even use a pre workout anymore. I'm sure I could get the same results without the test but I bet it would take twice the time.
But you'd rather run the risk of serious LONG-TERM complications from taking testosterone without being under the supervision of an MD and without an actual need to (i.e. low testosterone)?
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anthonyopitz87 wrote: »Well it wouldn't be the first time iv done something illegal. But I'm not concerned with how much I can lift only how I look My workouts last about 2 hours and are intense . Since starting the test iv seen changes in size vascularity And tone iv also lost a lot of fat around the stomach area. and the best part is my mood I just feel better all together I don't even use a pre workout anymore. I'm sure I could get the same results without the test but I bet it would take twice the time.
That's really a *kitten* up reason to do it. Im on it due to low T. If you don't care how much you can lift and just how you look. Just get plastic surgery0 -
lowendfuzz wrote: »anthonyopitz87 wrote: »Well it wouldn't be the first time iv done something illegal. But I'm not concerned with how much I can lift only how I look My workouts last about 2 hours and are intense . Since starting the test iv seen changes in size vascularity And tone iv also lost a lot of fat around the stomach area. and the best part is my mood I just feel better all together I don't even use a pre workout anymore. I'm sure I could get the same results without the test but I bet it would take twice the time.
That's really a *kitten* up reason to do it. Im on it due to low T. If you don't care how much you can lift and just how you look. Just get plastic surgery
Testosterone is cheaper in the short run and more expensive in the long run. Why would he want to fork out a bunch of money for surgery now or spend tons of quality time in the gym now, when he can shell out more money to fix his hormones later in life?0 -
anthonyopitz87 wrote: »But I'm not concerned with how much I can lift only how I look .
Translated your lifts didn't go up.0 -
lowendfuzz wrote: »anthonyopitz87 wrote: »Well it wouldn't be the first time iv done something illegal. But I'm not concerned with how much I can lift only how I look My workouts last about 2 hours and are intense . Since starting the test iv seen changes in size vascularity And tone iv also lost a lot of fat around the stomach area. and the best part is my mood I just feel better all together I don't even use a pre workout anymore. I'm sure I could get the same results without the test but I bet it would take twice the time.
That's really a *kitten* up reason to do it. Im on it due to low T. If you don't care how much you can lift and just how you look. Just get plastic surgery
Agree 100%. I also am on the gel due to very low levels. Would love to be able to do without.0 -
Sorry so many of you need it for medical reasons. Guess I'm in the wrong place. I didn't ask anyone for advice about using test only about my food intake.0
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anthonyopitz87 wrote: »Sorry so many of you need it for medical reasons. Guess I'm in the wrong place. I didn't ask anyone for advice about using test only about my food intake.
Go over to bodybuilding.com. They'll have answers. Lots of those guys started with test and moved to other stuff.0 -
Yeah thanks, anyone know how to shut this chat down?0
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anthonyopitz87 wrote: »Yeah thanks, anyone know how to shut this chat down?
Go to the first post (the original one by you) then click on the flag and then click report. It has an option to request removal of your own post.0 -
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