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  • 30randwick
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    Jumping on board this conversation...my total calorie consumption per day according to MFP is 1200. If I burn 500 calories per day exercising and I don't eat those back will it accelerate or hinder my weight loss?
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
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    30randwick wrote: »
    Jumping on board this conversation...my total calorie consumption per day according to MFP is 1200. If I burn 500 calories per day exercising and I don't eat those back will it accelerate or hinder my weight loss?

    I would be more concerned about netting 800 calories a day (which you will be doing if you eat 1,200 and then burn 500) than I would be enhancing my weight loss. MFP's estimates, if you entered everything correctly, tell you that you will lose weight if you net 1,200 calories a day. You should eat at least a portion of your exercise calories back so that you maintain energy while you're losing weight.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    my problem is I don't know what good fats to eat, what good proteins to eat, what or how much sugar and carbs I can have. I just know I want to get this weight off. My doctor told me if I don't lose weight , I am borderline from being a diabetic and my over all cholestrol is borderline... she recommended I slow down on the carbs alot and the sugar....

    Can you ask your doctor to refer you to a registered dietician? That might be very valuable for you. I think you are going way overboard avoiding fat, for example--fat is good for you, you need it. You say in your profile that you have had trouble sustaining a diet in the past. One reason for that, I think, is that people think they must eat very strictly and without anything that might seem too tasty when dieting--that they must avoid fat in particular or eat no meat but chicken breast or the leanest fish. In fact, all you need to do is eat at the calorie deficit that MFP gives you (and if you ask for 2 lb/week, that might not even be necessary, of course--you could eat more and still lose 1 lb/week, depending on your current weight and how active you are).

    I think one thing that is helpful for new people is to log a more normal version of your diet for a few days rather than going overboard and trying to cut everything and then use the tool to look at where you are getting the most extra calories and what you can cut. Some things are obvious--if lots of high calorie fast food or restaurant meals or lots of sweets, cut down on those. Other things may be a matter of excess calories due to larger portion sizes or a lack of mindful eating (I used to get excess calories from various foods I don't even like that much, like rice, so I just mostly stopped eating it).

    After a bit you will start to understand also what makes you feel more satisfied vs. less (a lot of times people are satisfied on very little at first, but that doesn't last), and be able to play around with that. Keep track of when you are hungry and not.

    Eating well (although a RD will help more) is really IMO a matter of common sense and the things everyone knows about nutrition. People make it too complicated. MFP helps by giving you certain nutrition goals, such as a good breakdown of fat, protein, and carbs (many find different breakdowns help them, but this is a decent one to start with, especially since you may struggle with eating enough protein and fat at first). It is not good to always try to stay below everything--your balance matters. But also don't panic about these--you will lose weight if you eat at or below your calorie level (but going too low is unhealthy and not sustainable). Instead, if you are low on fat and protein think of ways to get more in your diet.

    What helps me is to think first of getting protein at each meal and then also getting veggies and add extras on to that to try and reach my calorie goal. I cook my veggies in olive or coconut oil or sometimes butter (not a lot, but a little--it helps you use the nutrients from them, and fat is filling). For example, for breakfast I like eggs (which have protein), add veggies (a vegetable omelet), some cheese in the omelet, and more protein (usually dairy) and sometimes fruit on the side, depending on how many calories I want. For lunch I have some kind of protein with veggies (maybe meat on a salad) or perhaps a wrap with protein and veggies in it. I'd add dressing with a little olive oil to the salad. I might have a snack with fruit or nuts (nuts are another great source of fat that are non-controversially considered healthy). For dinner I'll pick out a protein (any lean meat or fish is good), veggies, and then depending on my calories add a reasonable portion of something like potatoes or sweet potatoes.

    All this depends on your preferences, though--I am just illustrating how I approach it. The point is that you can eat what you like and also meet your nutrition goals. If you are pre diabetic you will probably want to be especially careful to eat carbs only with protein and fat--another reason to not cut fat too much.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited March 2015
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    Another thing, however, is that it takes a bit of time to get the logging right. For example, you want to seek out entries without asterisks, ideally, for whole foods like meat and produce. Those are from the USDA and entered by MFP, not users. (They read like "chicken-breast, meat only, raw"). Searching USDA and using entries that have lots of confirmations is also a good way to do it.

    I am skeptical about the chicken breast entry you have been using and also about the 4 oz measurement always. Most pieces of chicken breast are more than 4 oz (weighed raw). Using a food scale is not necessary, but can be quite helpful and informative. If you weigh, you will want to weigh raw if possible, but make sure you use an entry that identifies the state the meat was in when weighed. (In other words, if you weigh cooked, the entry should say "chicken-breast, meat only, cooked, grilled" or maybe "cooked, dry heat."

    (If you are actually eating a bit more chicken breast, that's good--it would add some protein and calories to the day.)
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited March 2015
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    Re: your diary ...here's some learning curve advice

    - Buy a digital scale and use it for everything
    -Do not trust measuring cups or pack sizes, weigh it
    -When using MFP database take care - look for entries, on website, without asterisks or with lots of member confirmations
    - Never use a "homemade" entry build your own recipe and use that

    It is ok to zig zag your calories, so if you ate 800 one day, save those extra calories for the next, it is not ok to regularly eat under 1200, or your MFP goal whichever is higher
  • pmccausland1965
    pmccausland1965 Posts: 10 Member
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    thank you to all of you , this information is really helping me. I am a beginner of this diet thing , so I am learning and appreciate all the help. I know my diary is pretty much about what I had... and yeah , I am scared to use things like butter, or oils in my cooking,I am scared to use breads, anything that might cause me to put on weight, I am a woman in her menopausal stage ( over a yr now) and I packed on 10 more lbs in one year, seemm like everything I ate , made me gain weight. when I was 18-20 years old I was 110 lbs, and then I had 4 children and put on 70-80 pds with each child, everytime I have one of my children, I would lose most of the weight except maybe 10-15 lbs, til my last child, I got up to 226 and really never lost it.. and just this last year being menopausal, I gained 10lbs. so I want to get this weight off, my lower back hurts alot, my legs, , I am not as physically active anymore because of the weight, and messing with my mental and emotional feelings as well, I am proud that I have lost 7 pds just in 10 days now, and my goal and determination is to keep going and lose this weight and feel good at age 49 almost 50! Thats my goal and I know its a slow process and it just don't come off over night, or days, but I am determined. I know MFP is going to be great, I see it already , great place and great people for support!
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    the data for "Rotisserie Chicken Salad Sandwich" looks wrong - zero fat. Calories probably right
  • lalawaterlala
    lalawaterlala Posts: 56 Member
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    To figure out the most accurate BMR for you, you should use the Mifflin St. Jeor equation.
    This is the equation for females:
    (9.99 x weight in kg) + (6.25 x height in cm) - (4.92 x age in years) - 161

    This is the equation for males:
    (9.99 x weight in kg) + (6.25 x height in cm) - (4.92 x age in years) + 5
  • lalawaterlala
    lalawaterlala Posts: 56 Member
    edited March 2015
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    thank you to all of you , this information is really helping me. I am a beginner of this diet thing , so I am learning and appreciate all the help. I know my diary is pretty much about what I had... and yeah , I am scared to use things like butter, or oils in my cooking,I am scared to use breads, anything that might cause me to put on weight, I am a woman in her menopausal stage ( over a yr now) and I packed on 10 more lbs in one year, seemm like everything I ate , made me gain weight. when I was 18-20 years old I was 110 lbs, and then I had 4 children and put on 70-80 pds with each child, everytime I have one of my children, I would lose most of the weight except maybe 10-15 lbs, til my last child, I got up to 226 and really never lost it.. and just this last year being menopausal, I gained 10lbs. so I want to get this weight off, my lower back hurts alot, my legs, , I am not as physically active anymore because of the weight, and messing with my mental and emotional feelings as well, I am proud that I have lost 7 pds just in 10 days now, and my goal and determination is to keep going and lose this weight and feel good at age 49 almost 50! Thats my goal and I know its a slow process and it just don't come off over night, or days, but I am determined. I know MFP is going to be great, I see it already , great place and great people for support!

    You should be really proud of yourself for getting your diet back on track and losing excess weight! 7 pounds in 10 days is great. You will feel the benefits and your body will thank you down the line since excess weight contributes to diabetes, heart disease, and many others.
    MFP is great for logging calories and communicating with others that have similar goals as you. Getting active will also greatly help you reach your goals!
    Best of luck with your journey!