How denial can be a good thing
gpstreet
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So at the moment you are trying to endure the pains of a diet. You are carefully measuring what you are eating and what you are burning. In this regime it is only natural to deny yourself certain foods and drink. No chocolate, no cake, no wine, no pizza and so on. However in truth, you are allowed to indulge in these things but only in a controlled way. So I would like to suggest one thing and that is when you do indulge go for top quality and high price.
Why not ? You have denied yourself the calories yes, but you have also saved yourself some money. You will not indulge so often so why not spend a little extra ? Another arguement for this idea is that top quality and high price may be for a good reason and that is they use the best quality ingredients. Why do you think that pizza is cheap ? It is probably because the flour used is poor quality. Why is that chocolate bar cheap ? Because the base oil is probably no better than refined diesel oil :-)
Why not ? You have denied yourself the calories yes, but you have also saved yourself some money. You will not indulge so often so why not spend a little extra ? Another arguement for this idea is that top quality and high price may be for a good reason and that is they use the best quality ingredients. Why do you think that pizza is cheap ? It is probably because the flour used is poor quality. Why is that chocolate bar cheap ? Because the base oil is probably no better than refined diesel oil :-)
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I don't deny anything. I don't diet and I lose weight. calories in versus calories out. Stop thinking it's a diet, it is a lifestyle change.0
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jennifershoo wrote: »I don't deny anything. I don't diet and I lose weight. calories in versus calories out. Stop thinking it's a diet, it is a lifestyle change.
agrees 100%
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herrspoons wrote: »jennifershoo wrote: »I don't deny anything. I don't diet and I lose weight. calories in versus calories out. Stop thinking it's a diet, it is a lifestyle change.
This.
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I do see what you're saying OP.
I also don't deny myself anything but I had a similar conversation with my husband.
Do you prefer to buy low calorie options or full fat and eat less? I'd rather eat less of a full fat good quality food than go for the lower calories/larger portion (and probably less tasty) option.0 -
This sounds a lot like how I view minimalism.0
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jennifershoo wrote: »I don't deny anything. I don't diet and I lose weight. calories in versus calories out. Stop thinking it's a diet, it is a lifestyle change.
I do!
I don't have enough calories to indulge in most of the things i want
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christinev297 wrote: »jennifershoo wrote: »I don't deny anything. I don't diet and I lose weight. calories in versus calories out. Stop thinking it's a diet, it is a lifestyle change.
I do!
I don't have enough calories to indulge in most of the things i want
Exercise more then you can...
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It's gotta be good, it was expensive. :disagree:
Price as indicator of quality is a poor substitute for thinking.
It allows poor quality to be marked up and there you go, consuming for brand or perceived quality and getting bleh food.
Nothing beats knowing the chain from grower to table.
Locally sourced, fresh market over high prices for price sake.
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christinev297 wrote: »jennifershoo wrote: »I don't deny anything. I don't diet and I lose weight. calories in versus calories out. Stop thinking it's a diet, it is a lifestyle change.
I do!
I don't have enough calories to indulge in most of the things i want
Exercise more then you can...
100% agree with original topic
Can't argue with you on that one lol
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Just to be clear
Yes, I should of written 'diet change' instead of 'diet'. With diet defined by the dictionary term
noun
1.
food and drink considered in terms of its qualities, composition, and its effects on health:
For me. I do loads of exercise but failed to lose weight. Therefore I have to change my diet ie what I take in. So I cut down on amounts and bad foods.0 -
christinev297 wrote: »jennifershoo wrote: »I don't deny anything. I don't diet and I lose weight. calories in versus calories out. Stop thinking it's a diet, it is a lifestyle change.
I do!
I don't have enough calories to indulge in most of the things i want
Exercise more then you can...
100% agree with original topic
I love exercise since it make me feels like I can reward myself with treats.
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So at the moment you are trying to endure the pains of a diet. You are carefully measuring what you are eating and what you are burning. In this regime it is only natural to deny yourself certain foods and drink. No chocolate, no cake, no wine, no pizza and so on. However in truth, you are allowed to indulge in these things but only in a controlled way. So I would like to suggest one thing and that is when you do indulge go for top quality and high price.
Why not ? You have denied yourself the calories yes, but you have also saved yourself some money. You will not indulge so often so why not spend a little extra ? Another arguement for this idea is that top quality and high price may be for a good reason and that is they use the best quality ingredients. Why do you think that pizza is cheap ? It is probably because the flour used is poor quality. Why is that chocolate bar cheap ? Because the base oil is probably no better than refined diesel oil :-)
Nope. I don't deny myself anything. If I denied myself something when I want it, I'd only end up binging on it later. I work it into my goals for the day.
I have a love for today but plan for the not guarenteed tomorrow approach to life (including weightloss).0 -
I think being in denial about anything is bad, just because it cloaks the real reason. Making rational choices based on whatever my goal is a yardstick that keeps it real and honest for me.
Sometimes that goal is to indulge in a nice dessert, sometimes it's to eat to satiety, sometimes it's to go without any food for a day to test boundaries. We're all different and our goals are not static.
Choosing high quality foods is not necessarily same as high price. Home made peasant style stew is cheaper than buying a foie gras or Beluga caviar, "quality" is a subjective notion.0 -
So at the moment you are trying to endure the pains of a diet. You are carefully measuring what you are eating and what you are burning. In this regime it is only natural to deny yourself certain foods and drink. No chocolate, no cake, no wine, no pizza and so on. However in truth, you are allowed to indulge in these things but only in a controlled way. So I would like to suggest one thing and that is when you do indulge go for top quality and high price.
Why not ? You have denied yourself the calories yes, but you have also saved yourself some money. You will not indulge so often so why not spend a little extra ? Another arguement for this idea is that top quality and high price may be for a good reason and that is they use the best quality ingredients. Why do you think that pizza is cheap ? It is probably because the flour used is poor quality. Why is that chocolate bar cheap ? Because the base oil is probably no better than refined diesel oil :-)
High price does not mean top quality though
In fact in a lot of places things are priced based on both what the market will allow and also to give the market the impression that it's a premium product .. not always the case
Caveat Emptor in all things0 -
jennifershoo wrote: »I don't deny anything. I don't diet and I lose weight. calories in versus calories out. Stop thinking it's a diet, it is a lifestyle change.
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Very true that high price and high quality are synonymous however my point was when you do indulge you should be selective.0
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I get what you are trying to say, but disagree with you on the basis that high price does not always equal quality. You are now shifting your point into being selective, which if you are calorie counting and making a conscious effort to monitor what you eat, then you are doing this by default.
You should also remember that many people on MFP are dieting on a budget, so they buy what they can afford.
What are the bad foods you mention?0 -
I missed a not :-)0
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Arent you now contradicting yourself? Toy say high price is synonymous and now you say it is not?0
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How high quality can flour be? It's flour, it's inexpensive
I have two five lb bags that are lasting forever because I live alone and don't bake that much. All the delicious flour based treats I've created, costing pennies...
Though I find your theory to be quite interesting. At the very minimum, if I'm gonna blow calories on stuff, it needs to be good. And this seems like pretty basic stuff but I've eaten some items and been like, what a waste0 -
Sometimes the treat a person is craving is the cheap stuff though. I figure a good rule is - don't waste calories on something you won't enjoy.0
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Sometimes the treat a person is craving is the cheap stuff though. I figure a good rule is - don't waste calories on something you won't enjoy.
Just what I was thinking. I'm not going to stop eating stuff I love just because it's cheap. Sometimes all I want is a Tesco Value cheesecake for £1.75.0 -
I thought you meant a different kind of denial. Like when I pretend I move like my Zumba instructor. I can keep the illusion going for a while at least.
Even for those of us who "deny nothing", the day is filled with saying "no" to this or that because it simply does not fit.
I agree that saying "yes" to a great bit of chocolate is very worthwhile. The expense means we may take our time eating it too, which extends the pleasure and the memory of it at a fraction of the volume.0 -
Chocolate is apparently very good for you. Maybe they meant the good stuff and not the cheapo stuff.0
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We can't have everything always. But we can choose what means most to us.
Price and value are two separate entities.
A little goes a long way. With a little planning, cheap ingredients can become an indulgent meal.0 -
christinev297 wrote: »jennifershoo wrote: »I don't deny anything. I don't diet and I lose weight. calories in versus calories out. Stop thinking it's a diet, it is a lifestyle change.
I do!
I don't have enough calories to indulge in most of the things i want
Exercise more to earn your calories or just eat a smaller portion of the food you want.
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Sometimes the treat a person is craving is the cheap stuff though. I figure a good rule is - don't waste calories on something you won't enjoy.
Yep!
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