About Subway and Jamba juice
supah11
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Is it bad to eat subway sandwhiches and drink jamba juice most of the time? I'm not sure if their term "healthy" really is healthy.
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Like most meals? Or most days?
For weight loss, it doesn't matter if they are "really healthy" or not. What matters is if you accurately track the calories you consume while eating there.
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Define your idea of "bad".
Subway products are pretty good depending on what toppings you use. The issue I would see with eating Subway sandwiches regularly is that means a lot of white bread which is a simple carbohydrate. Even the whole wheat bread is still mostly white flour.0 -
Going to depend on what you order and what your goals are.0
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On certain days only like 2-3x a week. But yea I make sure to track my calorie intakejanejellyroll wrote: »Like most meals? Or most days?
For weight loss, it doesn't matter if they are "really healthy" or not. What matters is if you accurately track the calories you consume while eating there.
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Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.0
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LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?0 -
LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
If you know what the calorie count is and you log the calories, what do you think would be unsafe about them?
It has nothing to do with them being "fruit smoothies" (I can create super-high calorie fruit smoothies if I want). It comes down to: do you know what the calorie count is and are you logging it and meeting your calorie goal?0 -
LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Define "safe".
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I don't think it's bad if it fits your macros. I mean, health is one thing, but for weight loss a calorie is a calorie. That set aside, while I'm not familiar with Jamba Juice, I eat at subway from time to time and I think it's delicious. I am always able to get a sandwich that fits my daily allowance, and usually I flood it with veggies (it's just a personal preference, really). But even if I wanted to forgo the veggies, that wouldn't make it "bad" or "unhealthy"-- It just means that I wouldn't be getting as many vitamins, that's all.0
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I don't think it's bad if it fits your macros. I mean, health is one thing, but for weight loss a calorie is a calorie. That set aside, while I'm not familiar with Jamba Juice, I eat at subway from time to time and I think it's delicious. I am always able to get a sandwich that fits my daily allowance, and usually I flood it with veggies (it's just a personal preference, really). But even if I wanted to forgo the veggies, that wouldn't make it "bad" or "unhealthy"-- It just means that I wouldn't be getting as many vitamins, that's all.
I make sure my sandwhich is healthy 0 -
beemerphile1 wrote: »LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Define "safe".
Safe in terms of healthy, all natural, no preservatives
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I don't think it's bad if it fits your macros. I mean, health is one thing, but for weight loss a calorie is a calorie. That set aside, while I'm not familiar with Jamba Juice, I eat at subway from time to time and I think it's delicious. I am always able to get a sandwich that fits my daily allowance, and usually I flood it with veggies (it's just a personal preference, really). But even if I wanted to forgo the veggies, that wouldn't make it "bad" or "unhealthy"-- It just means that I wouldn't be getting as many vitamins, that's all.
I make sure my sandwhich is healthy
So what's the problem then? You asked if these chains are healthy, but then you say you make sure your sandwich healthy. I think you answered your own question
ETA: I think everyone will define healthy differently, but if you want to go with the common definition that's pretty universal, then I guess you've got it. Once you start looking into all natural and no preservatives, though, the lines get blurred. I personally believe those are not the most important factors that determine what's "healthy" and what's not, but just remember that in most chains, you will find some amount of preservatives because, well, big business. It's not cost efficient to go through foods because they spoil too quickly. May not be the case at Subway and Jamba Juice, I'm not sure because I don't pay much mind to that.0 -
beemerphile1 wrote: »LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Define "safe".
Safe in terms of healthy, all natural, no preservatives
Those things mean nothing when it comes to weight loss. You will lose weight if you maintain a calorie deficit. Whether or not the food is "healthy" won't matter. Whether or not is is natural won't matter. The preservative level won't matter. If you consume excess calories, your body won't care if it is a juice smoothie or a slurpee, a Big Mac or an "all natural" Subway sandwich.
(What are you ordering that is free of preservatives at Subway, by the way?)0 -
I don't think it's bad if it fits your macros. I mean, health is one thing, but for weight loss a calorie is a calorie. That set aside, while I'm not familiar with Jamba Juice, I eat at subway from time to time and I think it's delicious. I am always able to get a sandwich that fits my daily allowance, and usually I flood it with veggies (it's just a personal preference, really). But even if I wanted to forgo the veggies, that wouldn't make it "bad" or "unhealthy"-- It just means that I wouldn't be getting as many vitamins, that's all.
I make sure my sandwhich is healthy
So what's the problem then? You asked if these chains are healthy, but then you say you make sure your sandwich healthy. I think you answered your own question
I'm just worried hehe..caz the net's just confusing with diff types of info. Thanks0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Define "safe".
Safe in terms of healthy, all natural, no preservatives
Those things mean nothing when it comes to weight loss. You will lose weight if you maintain a calorie deficit. Whether or not the food is "healthy" won't matter. Whether or not is is natural won't matter. The preservative level won't matter. If you consume excess calories, your body won't care if it is a juice smoothie or a slurpee, a Big Mac or an "all natural" Subway sandwich.
(What are you ordering that is free of preservatives at Subway, by the way?)
Wheat tuna all veggies included
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janejellyroll wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Define "safe".
Safe in terms of healthy, all natural, no preservatives
Those things mean nothing when it comes to weight loss. You will lose weight if you maintain a calorie deficit. Whether or not the food is "healthy" won't matter. Whether or not is is natural won't matter. The preservative level won't matter. If you consume excess calories, your body won't care if it is a juice smoothie or a slurpee, a Big Mac or an "all natural" Subway sandwich.
(What are you ordering that is free of preservatives at Subway, by the way?)
Wheat tuna all veggies included
Not to be that guy, but the bread likely has preservatives in it. That doesn't mean you shouldn't eat it, though0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Define "safe".
Safe in terms of healthy, all natural, no preservatives
Those things mean nothing when it comes to weight loss. You will lose weight if you maintain a calorie deficit. Whether or not the food is "healthy" won't matter. Whether or not is is natural won't matter. The preservative level won't matter. If you consume excess calories, your body won't care if it is a juice smoothie or a slurpee, a Big Mac or an "all natural" Subway sandwich.
(What are you ordering that is free of preservatives at Subway, by the way?)
Wheat tuna all veggies included
Not to be that guy, but the bread likely has preservatives in it. That doesn't mean you shouldn't eat it, though
Yes, i understand. thanks 0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Define "safe".
Safe in terms of healthy, all natural, no preservatives
Those things mean nothing when it comes to weight loss. You will lose weight if you maintain a calorie deficit. Whether or not the food is "healthy" won't matter. Whether or not is is natural won't matter. The preservative level won't matter. If you consume excess calories, your body won't care if it is a juice smoothie or a slurpee, a Big Mac or an "all natural" Subway sandwich.
(What are you ordering that is free of preservatives at Subway, by the way?)
Wheat tuna all veggies included
You realize mayo usually has preservatives in it, right? There's nothing wrong with that (I mean, who wants spoiled mayo?). It seems like you're latching on to a lot of buzzwords that don't mean much ("healthy," "all natural") or don't have any impact on weight loss ("preservative free").
Anyway, as long as you account for the 480 or so calories in your 6'' tuna sub (depending on toppings) and the few hundred in your Jamba Juice, you should be fine.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Define "safe".
Safe in terms of healthy, all natural, no preservatives
Those things mean nothing when it comes to weight loss. You will lose weight if you maintain a calorie deficit. Whether or not the food is "healthy" won't matter. Whether or not is is natural won't matter. The preservative level won't matter. If you consume excess calories, your body won't care if it is a juice smoothie or a slurpee, a Big Mac or an "all natural" Subway sandwich.
(What are you ordering that is free of preservatives at Subway, by the way?)
Wheat tuna all veggies included
You realize mayo usually has preservatives in it, right? There's nothing wrong with that (I mean, who wants spoiled mayo?). It seems like you're latching on to a lot of buzzwords that don't mean much ("healthy," "all natural") or don't have any impact on weight loss ("preservative free").
Anyway, as long as you account for the 480 or so calories in your 6'' tuna sub (depending on toppings) and the few hundred in your Jamba Juice, you should be fine.
Yes I am informed about the mayo etc. I mean I ordered it outside so I have no choice but to eat those too unless of course its me who prepared it. I am aware of it thanks 0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Define "safe".
Safe in terms of healthy, all natural, no preservatives
Those things mean nothing when it comes to weight loss. You will lose weight if you maintain a calorie deficit. Whether or not the food is "healthy" won't matter. Whether or not is is natural won't matter. The preservative level won't matter. If you consume excess calories, your body won't care if it is a juice smoothie or a slurpee, a Big Mac or an "all natural" Subway sandwich.
(What are you ordering that is free of preservatives at Subway, by the way?)
Wheat tuna all veggies included
You realize mayo usually has preservatives in it, right? There's nothing wrong with that (I mean, who wants spoiled mayo?). It seems like you're latching on to a lot of buzzwords that don't mean much ("healthy," "all natural") or don't have any impact on weight loss ("preservative free").
Anyway, as long as you account for the 480 or so calories in your 6'' tuna sub (depending on toppings) and the few hundred in your Jamba Juice, you should be fine.
Yes I am informed about the mayo etc. I mean I ordered it outside so I have no choice but to eat those too unless of course its me who prepared it. I am aware of it thanks
This entire thread is confusing to me. You asked if Subway was "safe" and you said your definition of "safe" was "healthy, all natural, no preservatives." So when it is pointed out that two of those terms are pretty meaningless and the food you order doesn't meet the definition of the third, you say you already knew that.
I am not sure what you are looking for in this thread. Why are you asking questions that you already know the answer to?0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Define "safe".
Safe in terms of healthy, all natural, no preservatives
Those things mean nothing when it comes to weight loss. You will lose weight if you maintain a calorie deficit. Whether or not the food is "healthy" won't matter. Whether or not is is natural won't matter. The preservative level won't matter. If you consume excess calories, your body won't care if it is a juice smoothie or a slurpee, a Big Mac or an "all natural" Subway sandwich.
(What are you ordering that is free of preservatives at Subway, by the way?)
Wheat tuna all veggies included
You realize mayo usually has preservatives in it, right? There's nothing wrong with that (I mean, who wants spoiled mayo?). It seems like you're latching on to a lot of buzzwords that don't mean much ("healthy," "all natural") or don't have any impact on weight loss ("preservative free").
Anyway, as long as you account for the 480 or so calories in your 6'' tuna sub (depending on toppings) and the few hundred in your Jamba Juice, you should be fine.
Yes I am informed about the mayo etc. I mean I ordered it outside so I have no choice but to eat those too unless of course its me who prepared it. I am aware of it thanks
This entire thread is confusing to me. You asked if Subway was "safe" and you said your definition of "safe" was "healthy, all natural, no preservatives." So when it is pointed out that two of those terms are pretty meaningless and the food you order doesn't meet the definition of the third, you say you already knew that.
I am not sure what you are looking for in this thread. Why are you asking questions that you already know the answer to?
I'm sorry but its all good now. Got the info needed. Thanks and sorry.0 -
LeanButNotMean44 wrote: »Careful with the Jamba Juice drinks - they are really high in calories.
I get the ones with low calorie though, are they still not safe? So getting them most of the times isn't a good thing then even if they're fruit smoothies?
Their fruit smoothies have tons of added sugar. Therefore they are very high calorie while not being filling. So make sure to carefully track your calories.0 -
Also keep in mind that the calories posted on subway's website might not match up with the food you get there since there is lots of variability in how much food gets put on your sub by the employees.0
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I'm with you. You read things like this too much and you don't know what to eat anymore.
http://foodbabe.com/2014/02/07/subway-update/0 -
italysharon wrote: »I'm with you. You read things like this too much and you don't know what to eat anymore.
http://foodbabe.com/2014/02/07/subway-update/
"Food Babe" is crazy and often has no idea what she is talking about. Did you read her post about how microwaves turn water into "Satan water" (that is, she thinks microwaves form crystals in water that are identical to the crystals that are formed when you tell the words "Satan!" at water)?
Did you read her post about how the pressurization in airplanes is dangerous (never mind that the pressurization is simply to recreate the pressure we would be experiencing on the ground)?
She is a huge advocate of "detoxing" and other completely bogus nutritional fads. She preys on fear and under-education in science to fearmonger. I wouldn't rely on anything found in her blog unless I could verify it elsewhere.
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Safe in terms of healthy, all natural, no preservatives
Subway is not all natural and no preservatives. In these terms it is better than a lot of places you could be choosing to eat. However organic food would be better in these terms.
My personal perspective: You can drive yourself crazy eating only organic foods (not to mention go broke). For me it is all a give and take. I am slowly swapping out processed foods from my diet and replacing them with "healthier and more natural" alternatives. I still eat "crappy" food on occasion though. Don't think I'll ever fully give that up. 2-3 subway sandwiches a week isn't going to effect your weight loss. And like I said - you could be eating way worse. But if you want all natural stuff your best bet is to start packing food from home...
I have no idea what Jamba Juice is....0 -
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janejellyroll wrote: »
"Food Babe" is crazy and often has no idea what she is talking about. Did you read her post about how microwaves turn water into "Satan water" (that is, she thinks microwaves form crystals in water that are identical to the crystals that are formed when you tell the words "Satan!" at water)?
Did you read her post about how the pressurization in airplanes is dangerous (never mind that the pressurization is simply to recreate the pressure we would be experiencing on the ground)?
She is a huge advocate of "detoxing" and other completely bogus nutritional fads. She preys on fear and under-education in science to fearmonger. I wouldn't rely on anything found in her blog unless I could verify it elsewhere.
This. Food Babe drives me crazy. Some of her earlier work was legit and looked like she was actually trying to help people be healthier... But her most recent stuff is just so off the wall... I had to stop following her.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »italysharon wrote: »I'm with you. You read things like this too much and you don't know what to eat anymore.
http://foodbabe.com/2014/02/07/subway-update/
"Food Babe" is crazy and often has no idea what she is talking about. Did you read her post about how microwaves turn water into "Satan water" (that is, she thinks microwaves form crystals in water that are identical to the crystals that are formed when you tell the words "Satan!" at water)?
Did you read her post about how the pressurization in airplanes is dangerous (never mind that the pressurization is simply to recreate the pressure we would be experiencing on the ground)?
She is a huge advocate of "detoxing" and other completely bogus nutritional fads. She preys on fear and under-education in science to fearmonger. I wouldn't rely on anything found in her blog unless I could verify it elsewhere.
Please be kidding. No one could actually think that, right?
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