Weightwatcher and 'healthy' foods
Magemisty
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Right although I dont buy these sort of 'healthy chocolates or cakes' or weightwatchers or supposedly better version of things much, I do buy them sometimes. When i really have a craving and just want some chocolate or crisps then i do allow myself to have them sometimes however i would like to get into the habit of eating the less calorific versions of them.
The only problem is that the reason they have less calories in them is the compromise on flavour and amount. have you seen the size of the swiss rolls compared to the full fat ones. Hence due to the size and flavour i end up eating more than one. therefore my question for you guys is that do you think it is worth it for me to just eat one portion of the full fat/normal version or get tempted into eating more of the healthier version as it does not satify the craving in the same way. I suppose i could teach my self to like the 'healthy' version and only eat one portion of it. I dont know,what do you think/prefer?
The only problem is that the reason they have less calories in them is the compromise on flavour and amount. have you seen the size of the swiss rolls compared to the full fat ones. Hence due to the size and flavour i end up eating more than one. therefore my question for you guys is that do you think it is worth it for me to just eat one portion of the full fat/normal version or get tempted into eating more of the healthier version as it does not satify the craving in the same way. I suppose i could teach my self to like the 'healthy' version and only eat one portion of it. I dont know,what do you think/prefer?
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Your first mistake is to assume that lower calories = healthy. Weightwatchers is all about losing weight by cutting calories. That doesn't make it healthy.
Eat whichever one tastes better. I would imagine that would be the "full fat/normal" version. But that's just an assumption.0 -
yeah but then it might mean that i would end up eating more calories, i know they are healthy as they still contain sugar and fat but there are less cals in them and they dont really satisfy cravings.0
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yeah but then it might mean that i would end up eating more calories, i know they are healthy as they still contain sugar and fat but there are less cals in them and they dont really satisfy cravings.
Then eat a smaller portion of the higher fat/carb one that will satisfy your cravings?0 -
I don't buy that diet or low calorie snack stuff.I just eat the real version in moderation and use portion control. I'd feel deprived if I ate the low cal versions, so I eat the real stuff that tastes good!0
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Eat which ever version satisfies you more.
Personally, I really enjoy the weight watchers salted caramel ice cream bars when I want a treat. They are about 130 calories each. Yes, they are small, but they are packed with flavor, so one satisfies me. Everyone is different though. My husband enjoys them too, but one isn't enough for him, so he'll usually have two.
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I eat Dove Dark Chocolate Bliss. Each square is individually wrapped and only 35 calories. I just let it dissolve slowly in my mouth and that satisfies my chocolate craving. I also like mini Nestle Crunch bars which are 63 calories each. I have one Bliss or one mini Crunch bar pretty much every day so that I don't feel like I'm giving up on chocolate at all.0
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I like to eat a small amount of the really good stuff.0
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yeah but then it might mean that i would end up eating more calories, i know they are healthy as they still contain sugar and fat but there are less cals in them and they dont really satisfy cravings.
So then eat the one that satisfies the craving? It seems like a no brainer. And it's probably healthier. Again, don't conflate low cal and healthy... ugh.0 -
yeah but then it might mean that i would end up eating more calories, i know they are healthy as they still contain sugar and fat but there are less cals in them and they dont really satisfy cravings.
So then eat the one that satisfies the craving? It seems like a no brainer. And it's probably healthier. Again, don't conflate low cal and healthy... ugh.
sorry, i meant that i know that they are not healthy as they still contain fat and sugar. the only benifit to them is the fact that they contain fewer calories.0 -
yeah but then it might mean that i would end up eating more calories, i know they are healthy as they still contain sugar and fat but there are less cals in them and they dont really satisfy cravings.
So then eat the one that satisfies the craving? It seems like a no brainer. And it's probably healthier. Again, don't conflate low cal and healthy... ugh.
sorry, i meant that i know that they are not healthy as they still contain fat and sugar. the only benifit to them is the fact that they contain fewer calories.
You're still missing my point. If your sole goal is to cut calories, then yes, they have a benefit. Your original post refers to them as the "healthy version" and you even state in it that you could "teach yourself" to like them, meaning that you don't even like them! My point though, is that just because they are lower in calories, they are not healthy and in fact, the higher calorie version is probably healthier/more nutritious. Take a look at the ingredients list and then decide which you want to eat if your goal is actually health/nutrition related. If your only goal is cutting calories, then go ahead and eat that crap. Up to you though. But stop mixing up your terms.0 -
yeah but then it might mean that i would end up eating more calories, i know they are healthy as they still contain sugar and fat but there are less cals in them and they dont really satisfy cravings.
So then eat the one that satisfies the craving? It seems like a no brainer. And it's probably healthier. Again, don't conflate low cal and healthy... ugh.
sorry, i meant that i know that they are not healthy as they still contain fat and sugar. the only benifit to them is the fact that they contain fewer calories.
How is fat and sugar not healthy? So you don't eat fruits and veggies for sugar? Nor do you eat any type of protein source since they all contain at least some fat? No fish, meat, nuts, peanut butter, oil, steak, eggs?
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I was just going to say...you do know your body NEEDS fat right? And sugar isn't evil.0
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Just eat smaller portions of the real stuff.0
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BTW I like the Fiber One Lemon Squares thingees...I generally do not like store bought pastries and treats, but they are really good and give a 5g boost of fiber which I like. The mint chocolate brownie ones are OK too but the lemon squares are da bomb with a cup of coffee.0
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yeah but then it might mean that i would end up eating more calories, i know they are healthy as they still contain sugar and fat but there are less cals in them and they dont really satisfy cravings.
So then eat the one that satisfies the craving? It seems like a no brainer. And it's probably healthier. Again, don't conflate low cal and healthy... ugh.
sorry, i meant that i know that they are not healthy as they still contain fat and sugar. the only benifit to them is the fact that they contain fewer calories.
How is fat and sugar not healthy? So you don't eat fruits and veggies for sugar? Nor do you eat any type of protein source since they all contain at least some fat? No fish, meat, nuts, peanut butter, oil, steak, eggs?
Do you subsist on water?
i know that they are good for you but in appropriate amounts however the amount that you tend to find in foods which are things such as chocolate/cakes/crisps is so high that eating even small amount of these sorts of foods give you more than your daily allowance so therefore it makes you gain weight if you eat them often in large amounts. i am not stupid i know how the human body works and what nutrition is. i dont understand how your point is supposed to be benificial in any way.
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yeah but then it might mean that i would end up eating more calories, i know they are healthy as they still contain sugar and fat but there are less cals in them and they dont really satisfy cravings.
So then eat the one that satisfies the craving? It seems like a no brainer. And it's probably healthier. Again, don't conflate low cal and healthy... ugh.
sorry, i meant that i know that they are not healthy as they still contain fat and sugar. the only benifit to them is the fact that they contain fewer calories.
How is fat and sugar not healthy? So you don't eat fruits and veggies for sugar? Nor do you eat any type of protein source since they all contain at least some fat? No fish, meat, nuts, peanut butter, oil, steak, eggs?
Do you subsist on water?
i know that they are good for you but in appropriate amounts however the amount that you tend to find in foods which are things such as chocolate/cakes/crisps is so high that eating even small amount of these sorts of foods give you more than your daily allowance so therefore it makes you gain weight if you eat them often in large amounts. i am not stupid i know how the human body works and what nutrition is. i dont understand how your point is supposed to be benificial in any way.
How about you use you knowledge of biology and nutrition and eat the aforementioned foods within your calorie and macronutrient goals.
Outlandish idea I know, but it might just work.
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Hmmm. Over the course of the past couple months, I have lost 22 lbs.
Here is a graph of my sugar intake during that time period. The thin red horizontal line is the "goal" MFP sets for me.
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I eat a little chocolate every day. I eat a serving of potato chips almost every day. If I want some cake, I eat some cake. It's all about eating some of what you want so that you don't feel deprived and just throw up your hands and give up. Moderation and planning are key. I aim for 80% "healthy" and 20% "treats" in such a way as to fit my macros and stay under my calorie goal.yeah but then it might mean that i would end up eating more calories, i know they are healthy as they still contain sugar and fat but there are less cals in them and they dont really satisfy cravings.
So then eat the one that satisfies the craving? It seems like a no brainer. And it's probably healthier. Again, don't conflate low cal and healthy... ugh.
sorry, i meant that i know that they are not healthy as they still contain fat and sugar. the only benifit to them is the fact that they contain fewer calories.
How is fat and sugar not healthy? So you don't eat fruits and veggies for sugar? Nor do you eat any type of protein source since they all contain at least some fat? No fish, meat, nuts, peanut butter, oil, steak, eggs?
Do you subsist on water?
i know that they are good for you but in appropriate amounts however the amount that you tend to find in foods which are things such as chocolate/cakes/crisps is so high that eating even small amount of these sorts of foods give you more than your daily allowance so therefore it makes you gain weight if you eat them often in large amounts. i am not stupid i know how the human body works and what nutrition is. i dont understand how your point is supposed to be benificial in any way.
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I love weight watchers roast chicken crisps, shapers ( boots) spirals, chip sticks and i found vanilla and coconut popcorn! the only issue i have with weight watchers is the amount of sugar they contain.0
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alright guys gees, calm down.yeah but then it might mean that i would end up eating more calories, i know they are healthy as they still contain sugar and fat but there are less cals in them and they dont really satisfy cravings.
So then eat the one that satisfies the craving? It seems like a no brainer. And it's probably healthier. Again, don't conflate low cal and healthy... ugh.
sorry, i meant that i know that they are not healthy as they still contain fat and sugar. the only benifit to them is the fact that they contain fewer calories.
How is fat and sugar not healthy? So you don't eat fruits and veggies for sugar? Nor do you eat any type of protein source since they all contain at least some fat? No fish, meat, nuts, peanut butter, oil, steak, eggs?
Do you subsist on water?
i know that they are good for you but in appropriate amounts however the amount that you tend to find in foods which are things such as chocolate/cakes/crisps is so high that eating even small amount of these sorts of foods give you more than your daily allowance so therefore it makes you gain weight if you eat them often in large amounts. i am not stupid i know how the human body works and what nutrition is. i dont understand how your point is supposed to be benificial in any way.
How about you use you knowledge of biology and nutrition and eat the aforementioned foods within your calorie and macronutrient goals.
Outlandish idea I know, but it might just work.
yes i know that it exactly my point.
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Hmmm. Over the course of the past couple months, I have lost 22 lbs.
Here is a graph of my sugar intake during that time period. The thin red horizontal line is the "goal" MFP sets for me.
well done good weight loss, kepp up the good work
however eating too much sugar is not good (and no i am not talking about natural sugars found in fruit etc.)
saying that you eat sugar and still are losing weigh if it is over the amount everyone should consume on a daily basis does not mean that it is doing anything good to your body. i know someone (well not personally) who ate nothing but a cheese sandwhich in the evening but he drank 50 cups of tea with 5 sugars each in. I mean this guy was his normal weight if not under, and although he was not overweight it did not mean that his body was fit and healthy.
(Not that I am claiming to be a nutritionist or anything) 0 -
Hmmm. Over the course of the past couple months, I have lost 22 lbs.
Here is a graph of my sugar intake during that time period. The thin red horizontal line is the "goal" MFP sets for me.
well done good weight loss, kepp up the good work
however eating too much sugar is not good (and no i am not talking about natural sugars found in fruit etc.)
saying that you eat sugar and still are losing weigh if it is over the amount everyone should consume on a daily basis does not mean that it is doing anything good to your body. i know someone (well not personally) who ate nothing but a cheese sandwhich in the evening but he drank 50 cups of tea with 5 sugars each in. I mean this guy was his normal weight if not under, and although he was not overweight it did not mean that his body was fit and healthy.
(Not that I am claiming to be a nutritionist or anything)
I don't think anybody is claiming that eating only cheese sandwiches, tea, and sugar is the way to go. That comparison doesn't make much sense.
What specifically about sugar, in the context of a balanced diet, makes you unfit and unhealthy?
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janejellyroll wrote: »Hmmm. Over the course of the past couple months, I have lost 22 lbs.
Here is a graph of my sugar intake during that time period. The thin red horizontal line is the "goal" MFP sets for me.
well done good weight loss, kepp up the good work
however eating too much sugar is not good (and no i am not talking about natural sugars found in fruit etc.)
saying that you eat sugar and still are losing weigh if it is over the amount everyone should consume on a daily basis does not mean that it is doing anything good to your body. i know someone (well not personally) who ate nothing but a cheese sandwhich in the evening but he drank 50 cups of tea with 5 sugars each in. I mean this guy was his normal weight if not under, and although he was not overweight it did not mean that his body was fit and healthy.
(Not that I am claiming to be a nutritionist or anything)
I don't think anybody is claiming that eating only cheese sandwiches, tea, and sugar is the way to go. That comparison doesn't make much sense.
What specifically about sugar, in the context of a balanced diet, makes you unfit and unhealthy?
well eveything about this post i created was supposed to be about eating a balanced diet within your cals, and therefore i was asking people about whether they prefer low cal treats to normal treats when they are craving something.0 -
I don't usually waste my time with those tiny 100 calorie packs or little fake treats where you have to eat 4 or 5 packs to be satisfied - just defeats the purpose! I just eat a smaller amount of the good stuff.0
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janejellyroll wrote: »Hmmm. Over the course of the past couple months, I have lost 22 lbs.
Here is a graph of my sugar intake during that time period. The thin red horizontal line is the "goal" MFP sets for me.
well done good weight loss, kepp up the good work
however eating too much sugar is not good (and no i am not talking about natural sugars found in fruit etc.)
saying that you eat sugar and still are losing weigh if it is over the amount everyone should consume on a daily basis does not mean that it is doing anything good to your body. i know someone (well not personally) who ate nothing but a cheese sandwhich in the evening but he drank 50 cups of tea with 5 sugars each in. I mean this guy was his normal weight if not under, and although he was not overweight it did not mean that his body was fit and healthy.
(Not that I am claiming to be a nutritionist or anything)
I don't think anybody is claiming that eating only cheese sandwiches, tea, and sugar is the way to go. That comparison doesn't make much sense.
What specifically about sugar, in the context of a balanced diet, makes you unfit and unhealthy?
well eveything about this post i created was supposed to be about eating a balanced diet within your cals, and therefore i was asking people about whether they prefer low cal treats to normal treats when they are craving something.
You made the statements about it being "not good." You compared the chart posted to someone you know who ate only cheese sandwiches, tea, and sugar. What about eating sugar, in the context of a balanced diet (unlike your example), makes you unfit and unhealthy?
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yea,janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Hmmm. Over the course of the past couple months, I have lost 22 lbs.
Here is a graph of my sugar intake during that time period. The thin red horizontal line is the "goal" MFP sets for me.
well done good weight loss, kepp up the good work
however eating too much sugar is not good (and no i am not talking about natural sugars found in fruit etc.)
saying that you eat sugar and still are losing weigh if it is over the amount everyone should consume on a daily basis does not mean that it is doing anything good to your body. i know someone (well not personally) who ate nothing but a cheese sandwhich in the evening but he drank 50 cups of tea with 5 sugars each in. I mean this guy was his normal weight if not under, and although he was not overweight it did not mean that his body was fit and healthy.
(Not that I am claiming to be a nutritionist or anything)
I don't think anybody is claiming that eating only cheese sandwiches, tea, and sugar is the way to go. That comparison doesn't make much sense.
What specifically about sugar, in the context of a balanced diet, makes you unfit and unhealthy?
well eveything about this post i created was supposed to be about eating a balanced diet within your cals, and therefore i was asking people about whether they prefer low cal treats to normal treats when they are craving something.
You made the statements about it being "not good." You compared the chart posted to someone you know who ate only cheese sandwiches, tea, and sugar. What about eating sugar, in the context of a balanced diet (unlike your example), makes you unfit and unhealthy?
yea i said eating too much sugar is not good for you, and i did not compare the chart to my example - i gave an example of as to how eating too much sugar and still being within your bmi does not necessarily mean that you are fit and healthy.0 -
When I'm craving something, I'm craving that thing. I'm not craving something like that thing, I'm craving that thing.well eveything about this post i created was supposed to be about eating a balanced diet within your cals, and therefore i was asking people about whether they prefer low cal treats to normal treats when they are craving something.
If I try to eat something like that thing, I might eat 3 times as many calories more than I would if I just ate some of what I actually wanted.
Treats can fit well into a balanced diet. Excess anything can be bad. Moderation works. As long as you are getting your Macros and Micros close to correct, it's a healthy diet even if it includes the normal treats in moderation.0 -
yea i said eating too much sugar is not good for you, and i did not compare the chart to my example - i gave an example of as to how eating too much sugar and still being within your bmi does not necessarily mean that you are fit and healthy.
I have asked a couple of times what about it would make you unfit or unhealthy. Are you able to answer or are you just repeating things that you have heard from others?
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My diet is balanced. Except for a few rogue days I usually meet my macros though I admit to being deficient in fat and a little low on proteins some days. I figure if I end up with 40-50 grams of protein I'm good. My diary is open. There are 10 days from the last 80 or so that are incomplete or missing. Most of my days I've met most if not all of my macros...and yeah I've had a few stupid days of just junk food.
My argument with my sugar intake however was specifically targeted at your comment saying consuming too much sugar makes you fat. I say hogwash.
And I am consuming a more healthy diet and am more physically fit than ever before in my life.0
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