Max heart rate when working out

christianteach
christianteach Posts: 595 Member
edited November 7 in Fitness and Exercise
My heart rate is higher than the charts say my max is for my age when running. It always has been when doing cardio; step classes, zumba, bootcamp, didn't really make any difference, mine was always higher than the charts. I once had a pt tell me it was because I was an athlete for most of my youth so I had conditioned my heart. How can I safely determine if it's too high? I'm 47 and doing c25k. When I run it's typically between 175-180. Tonight it was 184. I felt fine but according to popular calculation of 220-age, my max heart rate is only 173.

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  • bronsted93
    bronsted93 Posts: 30 Member
    I, too, would like an explanation because mine gets well into the 190s...or at least that's what the elliptical tells me. I was a little on the athletic side as well as a kid.
  • Cherimoose
    Cherimoose Posts: 5,208 Member
    How can I safely determine if it's too high?

    If you're physically unable to continue. Or if a doctor told you a limit, due to a medical issue.

    Max HRs are guesstimates based on average people, but not everyone falls in the "average" category.
  • My trainer always tells me to just stop if I get dizzy or feel something is wrong. Other than that, doesn't seem to matter too much. I'd be careful of trusting what the elliptical says as well...I've gone on there from 220 to 61 bpm in a few seconds, and there was nothing wrong with me, and when I checked properly on something else it was sitting happy at 160ish.
  • christianteach
    christianteach Posts: 595 Member
    My trainer always tells me to just stop if I get dizzy or feel something is wrong. Other than that, doesn't seem to matter too much. I'd be careful of trusting what the elliptical says as well...I've gone on there from 220 to 61 bpm in a few seconds, and there was nothing wrong with me, and when I checked properly on something else it was sitting happy at 160ish.

    Just an fyi, I am running outside and using a HRM.
  • derrickyoung
    derrickyoung Posts: 136 Member
    I may be wrong but I think to accurately determine your MAX HR you need to start with your resting heart rate. Take HR first thing in am before getting out of bed. Then from that you can determine zones and MAX HR.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    I'm not in shape (yet), and my resting heart rate comes up at 35%-40% of my max. I notice that when I hike uphill, I tend to get winded and take breaks often. It seems like, when my heart rate is 150, or about 75%-80% of my calculated max is when I struggle the most. When it gets much higher than that, I start having vision trouble (things are out of focus). We are opposites, but I think it just honestly is different from person to person based on various factors such as fitness levels and hydration.
  • aliakynes
    aliakynes Posts: 352 Member
    http://www.runningforfitness.org/faq/hrmax
    After warming up, run at an even pace for three minutes, as fast as you can. Jog for two minutes; then run again for three minutes as fast as you can. Your maximum heart rate is the maximum level reached during the second 3 minute run.
  • hermann341
    hermann341 Posts: 443 Member
    The only way to really tell your max heart rate is to go to a physiologist and get a full blown stress test. Otherwise, if you can hold a conversation while running, you're probably OK.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    I go over 200 and I'm 43. My resting is mid 50s without caffeine. When I race 5k I average 184. It used to freak me out but I researched it and there's nothing to worry about. There's lots of info out there about working within heart rate zones, one of the benefits of heart rate monitors. But it's also good to just go from how you feel too, using the perceived rate of exertion method.
  • xidia
    xidia Posts: 606 Member
    The 220-age is an average, but the variation in the population is huge. Go by feel.

    For instance, I hit threshold pace at about 178-180, sprint intervals into the 190s, cruise at 170-175, and my long slow pace is still around 160. Standing up and walking around is about 95-120, from a resting rate of 64. From those numbers, I back-calculated my actual HRMax to be about 210, and I'm 31.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    The 220-age is an average, but the variation in the population is huge. Go by feel.

    ^^^ This.

    I thought my maximum was 170 from pushing myself to exhaustion in the gym but when I went to a sports science lab for a proper VO2 max test I got up to 176 and hit all the requirements for a true maximum HR. If you haven't done a maximal test you will be surprised how hard it is!
    By the simple 220-age formula I "should" be 166 but it's not a big difference.

    My older brother (so "should" have lower max) however, has always had a far higher maximum than me by about 25bpm although we both have low minimum HR (in the 40's). Just individual variances.
    As long as you aren't in distress then don't worry about being different from the norm.
  • CM9178
    CM9178 Posts: 1,251 Member
    I know this is old.. but.. I'm 36 so my Max HR is supposed to be 184.
    I wear an HRM when working out and it is almost always at least 180, sometimes 184 for most of the time. So am I really working out for 40 minutes at my max heart rate?? or is 184 really not my max? I'm not exactly in shape by any means. Only been working out consistently for a few months and I have at least 50 lbs to lose.
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    edited April 2015
    CM9178 wrote: »
    I know this is old.. but.. I'm 36 so my Max HR is supposed to be 184.
    I wear an HRM when working out and it is almost always at least 180, sometimes 184 for most of the time. So am I really working out for 40 minutes at my max heart rate?? or is 184 really not my max? I'm not exactly in shape by any means. Only been working out consistently for a few months and I have at least 50 lbs to lose.

    I'm pretty certain that if you're maintaining your whole workout at or near your estimated max HR, then it's not actually your absolute max HR. Also, if you're looking for more responses you might be better off starting a new thread, I didn't realize your new question was at the bottom until I read through the whole thread, and lots of people don't read that far, lol.

    I will say that I wouldn't put much stock in the 220-age calculation, if that's what you're using. Seems to be quite a lot of variation for people. Mine would supposedly be 188, and I've definitely gotten into the 190s
  • This isn't as complicated as you're making it out to be.

    Your maximum heart rate is = your maximum heart rate. Meaning, if at your hardest run, you heart rate goes to 184 and it never goes beyond that no matter how hard you push, then that's your maximum heart rate.

    If you've already been training for a long time then having a higher number isn't bad.

    Personally, I spend the vast majority of my training in the lower zones though (134-155bpm). I only hit close to my max every other week when I do sprint intervals, and it only stays there for a 30-60 seconds at most.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    I agree with what has already been said. But I also want to add that you will not be able to maintain your max HR for any significant length of time, so if you are maintaining between 180-184 for an entire workout, you max HR is probably closer to 200.
  • peachyfuzzle
    peachyfuzzle Posts: 1,122 Member
    My max is supposed to be 188, but I start being unable to function well right around the 175 mark. I am almost useless over 180bpm.
  • My max is supposed to be 188, but I start being unable to function well right around the 175 mark. I am almost useless over 180bpm.

    Yep, that's about exactly how it should be...although, next time you get to 180...push yourself even farther and see if the rate goes up. If it doesn't, then your max HR may simply be 180 (and you can forget about the calculation).
  • peachyfuzzle
    peachyfuzzle Posts: 1,122 Member
    My max is supposed to be 188, but I start being unable to function well right around the 175 mark. I am almost useless over 180bpm.

    Yep, that's about exactly how it should be...although, next time you get to 180...push yourself even farther and see if the rate goes up. If it doesn't, then your max HR may simply be 180 (and you can forget about the calculation).

    I only have the use of my fitness band, and the grabable handles on the treadmill to check my heartrate. I have seen it as high as 191, but I was seriously welcoming death's cold embrace at that point for a good couple of minutes.
  • urloved33
    urloved33 Posts: 3,323 Member
    edited April 2015
    I may be wrong but I think to accurately determine your MAX HR you need to start with your resting heart rate. Take HR first thing in am before getting out of bed. Then from that you can determine zones and MAX HR.

    "So how do you estimate your maximum heart rate? A common method for determining maximum heart rate for men is to subtract their age from 220, and for women to subtract their age from 226. Keep in mind that this formula gives you only an estimate. Your true max may be as many as 15 beats higher or lower. Also, this formula is generally used for activities during which your feet hit the ground. (To estimate your max for bicycling, subtract about five beats from the final result; for swimming, subtract about ten beats.)"


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