Eating MORE to weigh LESS ??
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I have recently found that my usual 1200-1300 calories/per day, is not enough to fuel my body. ESPECIALLY, when working out. And I have also found, that even though I am eating low calories, I am not losing any weight.....
So, MFP-er's, I have a question for you. What is your thought on eating MORE calories, with the intent of losing weight, and weighing LESS?
Prior, I was grazing throughout the day, but always choosing low-cal options. And then I would eat a large dinner with the family.. Now, I plan to eat a solid breakfast (about 450 calories), lunch (300), and dinner (about 450), With a couple of snacks in-between... To reach a total of 1500 kcals per day.
Is this a better option? Or am I just out of my mind? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! And feel free to add me!
So, MFP-er's, I have a question for you. What is your thought on eating MORE calories, with the intent of losing weight, and weighing LESS?
Prior, I was grazing throughout the day, but always choosing low-cal options. And then I would eat a large dinner with the family.. Now, I plan to eat a solid breakfast (about 450 calories), lunch (300), and dinner (about 450), With a couple of snacks in-between... To reach a total of 1500 kcals per day.
Is this a better option? Or am I just out of my mind? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! And feel free to add me!
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I suggest you check out the "Eat more to weigh less" group on the forum, it has been going strong for a long while. You're not out of your mind at all.
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If you're using MFPs calorie goal then you should be eating 1200 cals PLUS exercise cals.0
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^^this^^Wiseandcurious wrote: »I suggest you check out the "Eat more to weigh less" group on the forum, it has been going strong for a long while. You're not out of your mind at all.
(Edited "put" to "out").
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I'm going to assume that your large dinner placed your calories higher than you believe they've been at, unless you've been cooking all the dinners yourself and figuring out portions through your recipe builder.
Pick whatever option you want. I eat as much as I possibly can to lose weight. I'm currently eating 2200 for a potential half lb loss per week, although I'm also on a break from weighing. If I eat below 2000 calories I get hungry and my gym performance worsens. I've lost weight eating no less than 1800 my entire time on MFP.
If you like grazing then graze. I eat breakfast and lunch most days at ~500 cals, and then I'm left with 1000 or more cals in the evening. Usually a 5hr window to eat when and what I want. I will usually eat a few meals in this time. This is the pattern that naturally emerged when I stopped dictating how many meals i could eat and how many cals they should have. On Sundays I find I"m more likely to be lazy as eff and just grab food throughout the entire day. I just ate a waaaay smaller breakfast than normal today. I'll probably go grab something else in a little bit, and then I'll have leftover beef stroganoff (sp?) and then who knows what else. This tends to work for me on the weekend.
Regardless of whatever method you choose, the important thing is tracking and logging accurately. Until you make sure that your logging is solid (weigh all solids and measure liquids, or at least measure everything; use correct entries, avoiding user-entered ones as much as possible, much easier to enter your own entries for boxed things you buy and keep the entries private, then use any USDA/non-asterisk entries for raw produce/etc; use your own recipes from the recipe builder; log every day or most days; eat very consistently to your goal; eat back exercise calories, at least half), I wouldn't really bother making any changes.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »If you're using MFPs calorie goal then you should be eating 1200 cals PLUS exercise cals.
This.
Or use TDEE-20%, which is pretty much the same thing. But the idea is not to starve yourself, to make the process sustainable, prevent binges, and fuel your body properly. Obviously though, you still have to eat at a deficit to lose weight.
I exercise pretty much every day for 30 minutes in average but I'm pretty sedentary otherwise, and I never ate less than 1600 calories when losing... I'm 36 (was 34 then) and 5'5" and I've lost 80 pounds (70 of those the first year). IMO there's no reason to ever eat less than 1500 calories, unless you're older and 5 feet or something.0 -
IMO there's no reason to ever eat less than 1500 calories, unless you're older and 5 feet or something.
Its funny you say this. Im not older, although I AM 5 foot.Or use TDEE-20%, which is pretty much the same thing. But the idea is not to starve yourself, to make the process sustainable, prevent binges, and fuel your body properly. Obviously though, you still have to eat at a deficit to lose weight.
I think I am going to go with the TDEE (minus 20%) method.
Thank you!
And thank you to everyone who responded. It was all very helpful.0 -
I saw a nutritionist today and she actually recommended I do this. Increase my caloric intake to 1800 calories per day. I have in the past few weeks been consuming between 1300 and 1500 calories per day combined with exercise and haven`t seen a significant scale victory. She said my body is hanging onto all the calories I consume due to it being in starvation mode. Still it seems odd to eat more to lose more but the only thing I have left to lose at this point is weight so I will give it a try and in a couple of weeks let you know how it is working for me.0
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PattiMackinnon wrote: »I saw a nutritionist today and she actually recommended I do this. Increase my caloric intake to 1800 calories per day. I have in the past few weeks been consuming between 1300 and 1500 calories per day combined with exercise and haven`t seen a significant scale victory. She said my body is hanging onto all the calories I consume due to it being in starvation mode. Still it seems odd to eat more to lose more but the only thing I have left to lose at this point is weight so I will give it a try and in a couple of weeks let you know how it is working for me.
I'd be finding another nutritionist....
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christinev297 wrote: »PattiMackinnon wrote: »I saw a nutritionist today and she actually recommended I do this. Increase my caloric intake to 1800 calories per day. I have in the past few weeks been consuming between 1300 and 1500 calories per day combined with exercise and haven`t seen a significant scale victory. She said my body is hanging onto all the calories I consume due to it being in starvation mode. Still it seems odd to eat more to lose more but the only thing I have left to lose at this point is weight so I will give it a try and in a couple of weeks let you know how it is working for me.
I'd be finding another nutritionist....
Don't ignore your nutritionalist. People shouldn't always be fixed on "You need to eat less to weigh less." Your metabolism might have had to do with the fact you weren't seeing much change in your weight since you started "dieting." If you aren't eating enough to "boost/kickstart" your metabolism, then you won't be burning as many calories as you think. Eating around 1800 will start your metabolism and mixed with your workouts then you can lose weight(: My sister actually ate more and lost weight. Just focus on what you're eating than how much you are eating. Portion control and healthy nutrition is the main key!
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rachelbornstein wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »PattiMackinnon wrote: »I saw a nutritionist today and she actually recommended I do this. Increase my caloric intake to 1800 calories per day. I have in the past few weeks been consuming between 1300 and 1500 calories per day combined with exercise and haven`t seen a significant scale victory. She said my body is hanging onto all the calories I consume due to it being in starvation mode. Still it seems odd to eat more to lose more but the only thing I have left to lose at this point is weight so I will give it a try and in a couple of weeks let you know how it is working for me.
I'd be finding another nutritionist....
Don't ignore your nutritionalist. People shouldn't always be fixed on "You need to eat less to weigh less." Your metabolism might have had to do with the fact you weren't seeing much change in your weight since you started "dieting." If you aren't eating enough to "boost/kickstart" your metabolism, then you won't be burning as many calories as you think. Eating around 1800 will start your metabolism and mixed with your workouts then you can lose weight(: My sister actually ate more and lost weight. Just focus on what you're eating than how much you are eating. Portion control and healthy nutrition is the main key!
Your metabolism never stops unless you die. If a nutritionist is suggesting things to "kickstart" it or saying that "starvation mode" will happen, then they are not doing their job.
OP, are you logging everything you consume accurately? Using a food scale? Eating back your burned calories? You probably aren't eating 1200-1300 calories, so when you raise it and aren't accurately logging, you may end up gaining weight instead of losing it.0 -
christinev297 wrote: »PattiMackinnon wrote: »I saw a nutritionist today and she actually recommended I do this. Increase my caloric intake to 1800 calories per day. I have in the past few weeks been consuming between 1300 and 1500 calories per day combined with exercise and haven`t seen a significant scale victory. She said my body is hanging onto all the calories I consume due to it being in starvation mode. Still it seems odd to eat more to lose more but the only thing I have left to lose at this point is weight so I will give it a try and in a couple of weeks let you know how it is working for me.
I'd be finding another nutritionist....
Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. You're better off getting advice from a Registered Dietician.0 -
rachelbornstein wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »PattiMackinnon wrote: »I saw a nutritionist today and she actually recommended I do this. Increase my caloric intake to 1800 calories per day. I have in the past few weeks been consuming between 1300 and 1500 calories per day combined with exercise and haven`t seen a significant scale victory. She said my body is hanging onto all the calories I consume due to it being in starvation mode. Still it seems odd to eat more to lose more but the only thing I have left to lose at this point is weight so I will give it a try and in a couple of weeks let you know how it is working for me.
I'd be finding another nutritionist....
Don't ignore your nutritionalist. People shouldn't always be fixed on "You need to eat less to weigh less." Your metabolism might have had to do with the fact you weren't seeing much change in your weight since you started "dieting." If you aren't eating enough to "boost/kickstart" your metabolism, then you won't be burning as many calories as you think. Eating around 1800 will start your metabolism and mixed with your workouts then you can lose weight(: My sister actually ate more and lost weight. Just focus on what you're eating than how much you are eating. Portion control and healthy nutrition is the main key!
Your metabolism never stops unless you die. If a nutritionist is suggesting things to "kickstart" it or saying that "starvation mode" will happen, then they are not doing their job.
OP, are you logging everything you consume accurately? Using a food scale? Eating back your burned calories? You probably aren't eating 1200-1300 calories, so when you raise it and aren't accurately logging, you may end up gaining weight instead of losing it.
Actually I have been measuring and logging everything I am eating. I do not eat back my exercise calories. And although it is true your metabolism doesn`t stop...I don`t think I said it did; it is slower for some than others. The person (nutritionist) I saw works for a government funded Bariatric Clinic supervised by doctors and nurses. I can`t say if this will work but I am willing to give it a try.0 -
I'm going to assume that your large dinner placed your calories higher than you believe they've been at, unless you've been cooking all the dinners yourself and figuring out portions through your recipe builder.
Pick whatever option you want. I eat as much as I possibly can to lose weight. I'm currently eating 2200 for a potential half lb loss per week, although I'm also on a break from weighing. If I eat below 2000 calories I get hungry and my gym performance worsens. I've lost weight eating no less than 1800 my entire time on MFP.
If you like grazing then graze. I eat breakfast and lunch most days at ~500 cals, and then I'm left with 1000 or more cals in the evening. Usually a 5hr window to eat when and what I want. I will usually eat a few meals in this time. This is the pattern that naturally emerged when I stopped dictating how many meals i could eat and how many cals they should have. On Sundays I find I"m more likely to be lazy as eff and just grab food throughout the entire day. I just ate a waaaay smaller breakfast than normal today. I'll probably go grab something else in a little bit, and then I'll have leftover beef stroganoff (sp?) and then who knows what else. This tends to work for me on the weekend.
Regardless of whatever method you choose, the important thing is tracking and logging accurately. Until you make sure that your logging is solid (weigh all solids and measure liquids, or at least measure everything; use correct entries, avoiding user-entered ones as much as possible, much easier to enter your own entries for boxed things you buy and keep the entries private, then use any USDA/non-asterisk entries for raw produce/etc; use your own recipes from the recipe builder; log every day or most days; eat very consistently to your goal; eat back exercise calories, at least half), I wouldn't really bother making any changes.
You eat in a 5 hr window?0 -
PattiMackinnon wrote: »I saw a nutritionist today and she actually recommended I do this. Increase my caloric intake to 1800 calories per day. I have in the past few weeks been consuming between 1300 and 1500 calories per day combined with exercise and haven`t seen a significant scale victory. She said my body is hanging onto all the calories I consume due to it being in starvation mode. Still it seems odd to eat more to lose more but the only thing I have left to lose at this point is weight so I will give it a try and in a couple of weeks let you know how it is working for me.
Oh my goodness, have you thought of finding another nutritionist? Starvation mode does not happen to the common dieter.
What the original poster is talking about is taking that calorie range you need to lose weight and having it a bit higher (for a lower margin of error) rather than a bit lower (a higher margin of error), because then her body will be properly fueled. A properly fueled body run very well and can handle all your activities of daily living, including exercise.
If you had truly been consuming 1200-1500 calories a day you would have been losing weight. First, make sure you calorie counting is accurate, and then raise your calories withing your deficit range to see how you feel and if your weight loss is in line with what you want.
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PattiMackinnon wrote: »rachelbornstein wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »PattiMackinnon wrote: »I saw a nutritionist today and she actually recommended I do this. Increase my caloric intake to 1800 calories per day. I have in the past few weeks been consuming between 1300 and 1500 calories per day combined with exercise and haven`t seen a significant scale victory. She said my body is hanging onto all the calories I consume due to it being in starvation mode. Still it seems odd to eat more to lose more but the only thing I have left to lose at this point is weight so I will give it a try and in a couple of weeks let you know how it is working for me.
I'd be finding another nutritionist....
Don't ignore your nutritionalist. People shouldn't always be fixed on "You need to eat less to weigh less." Your metabolism might have had to do with the fact you weren't seeing much change in your weight since you started "dieting." If you aren't eating enough to "boost/kickstart" your metabolism, then you won't be burning as many calories as you think. Eating around 1800 will start your metabolism and mixed with your workouts then you can lose weight(: My sister actually ate more and lost weight. Just focus on what you're eating than how much you are eating. Portion control and healthy nutrition is the main key!
Your metabolism never stops unless you die. If a nutritionist is suggesting things to "kickstart" it or saying that "starvation mode" will happen, then they are not doing their job.
OP, are you logging everything you consume accurately? Using a food scale? Eating back your burned calories? You probably aren't eating 1200-1300 calories, so when you raise it and aren't accurately logging, you may end up gaining weight instead of losing it.
Actually I have been measuring and logging everything I am eating. I do not eat back my exercise calories. And although it is true your metabolism doesn`t stop...I don`t think I said it did; it is slower for some than others. The person (nutritionist) I saw works for a government funded Bariatric Clinic supervised by doctors and nurses. I can`t say if this will work but I am willing to give it a try.
Measuring your food, or weighing it on a food scale? Measuring can be very inaccurate causing you to be eating more calories than you think. Also "starvation mode" is a myth.0 -
I have recently found that my usual 1200-1300 calories/per day, is not enough to fuel my body. ESPECIALLY, when working out. And I have also found, that even though I am eating low calories, I am not losing any weight.....
So, MFP-er's, I have a question for you. What is your thought on eating MORE calories, with the intent of losing weight, and weighing LESS?
Prior, I was grazing throughout the day, but always choosing low-cal options. And then I would eat a large dinner with the family.. Now, I plan to eat a solid breakfast (about 450 calories), lunch (300), and dinner (about 450), With a couple of snacks in-between... To reach a total of 1500 kcals per day.
Is this a better option? Or am I just out of my mind? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! And feel free to add me!
I am all for eating the highest amount of calories you can to lose weight. I've been in maintenance for over a year, but when I was losing weight I raised my calories so that I would lose .5 pounds per week rather than 2 pounds, or even one pound, but that was only after I made sure I was accurate in my logging.
That said, are you accurately counting your calories? I mean, as in weighing and logging all your food? In order to succeed at a calorie increase, you have to know how much you are eating. The truth is if you are not losing a single pound at what you believe to be 1200 to 1300 calories, you will not lose at at an increased calorie level.0 -
Yep.PattiMackinnon wrote: »rachelbornstein wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »PattiMackinnon wrote: »I saw a nutritionist today and she actually recommended I do this. Increase my caloric intake to 1800 calories per day. I have in the past few weeks been consuming between 1300 and 1500 calories per day combined with exercise and haven`t seen a significant scale victory. She said my body is hanging onto all the calories I consume due to it being in starvation mode. Still it seems odd to eat more to lose more but the only thing I have left to lose at this point is weight so I will give it a try and in a couple of weeks let you know how it is working for me.
I'd be finding another nutritionist....
Don't ignore your nutritionalist. People shouldn't always be fixed on "You need to eat less to weigh less." Your metabolism might have had to do with the fact you weren't seeing much change in your weight since you started "dieting." If you aren't eating enough to "boost/kickstart" your metabolism, then you won't be burning as many calories as you think. Eating around 1800 will start your metabolism and mixed with your workouts then you can lose weight(: My sister actually ate more and lost weight. Just focus on what you're eating than how much you are eating. Portion control and healthy nutrition is the main key!
Your metabolism never stops unless you die. If a nutritionist is suggesting things to "kickstart" it or saying that "starvation mode" will happen, then they are not doing their job.
OP, are you logging everything you consume accurately? Using a food scale? Eating back your burned calories? You probably aren't eating 1200-1300 calories, so when you raise it and aren't accurately logging, you may end up gaining weight instead of losing it.
Actually I have been measuring and logging everything I am eating. I do not eat back my exercise calories. And although it is true your metabolism doesn`t stop...I don`t think I said it did; it is slower for some than others. The person (nutritionist) I saw works for a government funded Bariatric Clinic supervised by doctors and nurses. I can`t say if this will work but I am willing to give it a try.
Measuring your food, or weighing it on a food scale? Measuring can be very inaccurate causing you to be eating more calories than you think. Also "starvation mode" is a myth.
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PattiMackinnon wrote: »rachelbornstein wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »PattiMackinnon wrote: »I saw a nutritionist today and she actually recommended I do this. Increase my caloric intake to 1800 calories per day. I have in the past few weeks been consuming between 1300 and 1500 calories per day combined with exercise and haven`t seen a significant scale victory. She said my body is hanging onto all the calories I consume due to it being in starvation mode. Still it seems odd to eat more to lose more but the only thing I have left to lose at this point is weight so I will give it a try and in a couple of weeks let you know how it is working for me.
I'd be finding another nutritionist....
Don't ignore your nutritionalist. People shouldn't always be fixed on "You need to eat less to weigh less." Your metabolism might have had to do with the fact you weren't seeing much change in your weight since you started "dieting." If you aren't eating enough to "boost/kickstart" your metabolism, then you won't be burning as many calories as you think. Eating around 1800 will start your metabolism and mixed with your workouts then you can lose weight(: My sister actually ate more and lost weight. Just focus on what you're eating than how much you are eating. Portion control and healthy nutrition is the main key!
Your metabolism never stops unless you die. If a nutritionist is suggesting things to "kickstart" it or saying that "starvation mode" will happen, then they are not doing their job.
OP, are you logging everything you consume accurately? Using a food scale? Eating back your burned calories? You probably aren't eating 1200-1300 calories, so when you raise it and aren't accurately logging, you may end up gaining weight instead of losing it.
Actually I have been measuring and logging everything I am eating. I do not eat back my exercise calories. And although it is true your metabolism doesn`t stop...I don`t think I said it did; it is slower for some than others. The person (nutritionist) I saw works for a government funded Bariatric Clinic supervised by doctors and nurses. I can`t say if this will work but I am willing to give it a try.
I know, I was saying that to the person I quoted.
Measuring cups are not going to be as accurate as you want. A food scale is your best option, as it can give you an exact weight of what you're eating.0 -
Saw a lot of measuring entrees in your diary.
So i think you eat more calories than you think.
Good example is a small avocado... what is small???
i had 3.2 oz avocado 3 days ago 144 calories and that was half the avocado ( and that was not even a big avocado). So you better weigh all your solid foods and measure your liquids
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I have recently found that my usual 1200-1300 calories/per day, is not enough to fuel my body. ESPECIALLY, when working out. And I have also found, that even though I am eating low calories, I am not losing any weight.....
So, MFP-er's, I have a question for you. What is your thought on eating MORE calories, with the intent of losing weight, and weighing LESS?
Prior, I was grazing throughout the day, but always choosing low-cal options. And then I would eat a large dinner with the family.. Now, I plan to eat a solid breakfast (about 450 calories), lunch (300), and dinner (about 450), With a couple of snacks in-between... To reach a total of 1500 kcals per day.
Is this a better option? Or am I just out of my mind? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! And feel free to add me!
How long have you not been losing? You should be eating at least part of your exercise calories back. If you are at a deficit you will lose, if your at too high of a deficit your bodies reaction is to hold onto water. I would try eating your calories goal and not exercise for 2-3 days, if it's water you should see a drop around day 3. If this is the case, go back to what you were doing but eat at least 50% of your exercise calories back. If you notice your not losing again, take another couple days at calorie with no exercise and see if you have a drop again, if that's the case increase the number of exercise calories your eating,
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aribeiro659 wrote: »I have recently found that my usual 1200-1300 calories/per day, is not enough to fuel my body. ESPECIALLY, when working out. And I have also found, that even though I am eating low calories, I am not losing any weight.....
So, MFP-er's, I have a question for you. What is your thought on eating MORE calories, with the intent of losing weight, and weighing LESS?
Prior, I was grazing throughout the day, but always choosing low-cal options. And then I would eat a large dinner with the family.. Now, I plan to eat a solid breakfast (about 450 calories), lunch (300), and dinner (about 450), With a couple of snacks in-between... To reach a total of 1500 kcals per day.
Is this a better option? Or am I just out of my mind? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! And feel free to add me!
How long have you not been losing? You should be eating at least part of your exercise calories back. If you are at a deficit you will lose, if your at too high of a deficit your bodies reaction is to hold onto water. I would try eating your calories goal and not exercise for 2-3 days, if it's water you should see a drop around day 3. If this is the case, go back to what you were doing but eat at least 50% of your exercise calories back. If you notice your not losing again, take another couple days at calorie with no exercise and see if you have a drop again, if that's the case increase the number of exercise calories your eating,
Really, there is no reason to go all through this. All she has to do is getting her logging under control and make sure she's at a deficit.
If she's not losing, then eating her exercise calories back would not work because she's eating too much as it is.
Too small of a deficit causes people's weight loss to slow down. Water retention is normal, and comes and goes.
Edited to correct.
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I figured as much after I posted; your previous posts on this thread basically said the opposite, but I only noticed that after.0
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Hello and Help
My goal is to gain muscle and loose fat. According to Scooby's Workshop I will now do
5 meals daily, with macros of 45/35/20. Currently my weight is 174 with a BMR 1504 TDEE 2332.
Hello I am new here and have read a few post and FAQ's. I need help understanding my hunger craving yesterday. Yesterday I tried to follow the MFP calorie goal of 1600 but ate beyond that- it was 1967! I kept feeling hungry so I ate more and exercised for a total of 3 hours. 1 hour of body weight calisthenics; 1 hour of dance aerobic class; and 1 hour cardio on Precore & treadmill for a total of 3 hours. Why was I so hungry constantly? I also took a BPI Roxy Lean Theromhypergenic at 7am which used to suppress my appetite. Does anyone know why I constantly felt hungry?
Today I decided to try intermittent fasting (IF) again- meaning that I will alternate high calorie/protein/carb day with low calorie/carb days. 18 months ago I went from 174 down to 152 and gain the weight back due to a knee injury and a surgery 3 months ago.
You can take a look at my dairy and send me a private message.
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The Minnesota Experiment is worth a read. Or go to EM2WL.com and read their theory and see if it makes sense. I ate 2 times a day for 30 yrs, all under 800-1200 calories of healthy portioned organic foods, no junkie crap and yet steadily gained weight the past 10 yrs, and even yo yo'd for a bit when I changed up my foods, but no matter how less I ate or how much I worked out on all the machines and treadmill I still blew up. 4 weeks ago I read the theory and even though I couldnt bare the thought of eating more than I was used to I struggled to cram food in me. And now I feel alot better, and am weight lifting instead of killing myself on a treadmill for nothing. my weight hasnt budged with the increase calories from 1200 up to 2000 and Ive actually started feeling hungry not stuffed like a turkey which means my metabolism has kicked in high gear for me so now I cut to 1700 cals and lift heavier weights and we're off to the races in weight loss I hope! Wish me luck! Nothing else worked in the past 20 years of eating less and working out more, why not try this, I havent gained or lost weight since increasing my intake these past 30 days so here goes nothing! :-)0
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