Weight loss pills that help? Anyone experienced pls look

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  • jcow84
    jcow84 Posts: 75 Member
    Shadowsan wrote: »
    There are lots of things out there, a lot of them aren't particularly safe though - or in some cases even tested for human consumption!

    A lot of the anabolics out there aren't fit for human consumption for example. If you have to buy them and they say for scientific research only? They're not fit.

    God only knows what long term damage people are doing taking things that they don't understand the science of.

    At the end of the day, people who want results NOW? Will still be the people wanting those results in a years time because they won't stick with it.

    If it took you years to get into this state, don't expect to fix it in 6 months.

    Think about it as a long term lifestyle change, and say it'll take as long as it takes. Then keep plugging away.

    This!! Also, before you take anything, talk to a health care professional. Do not rely on Internet postings from strangers to guide you on what to put into your body.
  • Spyer116
    Spyer116 Posts: 168 Member
    edited April 2015
    cityruss wrote: »

    Can you back up any of these outlandish claims with any evidence?

    Can you describe what you mean by "increase metabolism" and "raise metabolism" and show any evidence that this occurs when taking any of the whoo described above?

    I'd especially like to see some peer reviewed studies that show that a tree bark that causes vasodilation and is used to treat erectile dysfunction can specifically burn fat "especially around the stomach area".

    I'm not going back-tracking 4.5 months of daily research and study for my own personal use, just to back things up for you. Do some searching yourself.
    I just gave short list of supplements. I said it was based on what I learned and researched, and my own personal opinions - or experience in the case of some of them.
    Look up Yohimbine in regards of weightloss, and not just as itself. As its more than just for erectile dysfunction. But simply - Its a stimulant. It increases adrenaline. And it blocks a process in fat cells that prevents/discourages their use/burning for energy. Whatever process it blocks, that process is carried out mainly in brown fat cells - which are primarily in the belly/stomach area - the hardest area to lose fat in - due to having the most intensive whatever it is (enzymes, chemicals, responses, i can't remember the exact details nor do I care that much to) - to prevent their loss.
    As far as I remember, Food - carbohydrates in particular - cause insulin spikes, which interfere with Yohimbine or stop it working or something, - hence why it works best when fasting.

    I didn't say it was miraculous either. I said it was effective - during short term fasting, or Intermittent fasting even. I still specificied that the supplements I mentioned that while they're effective, you still need to eat at a deficit, exercise and put in plenty of work - and that they would just give slightly better results in the same time period than if you were to have done the same work without them.

    Go look up what stimulants do or what the specific supplements I mentioned, do. I didn't go making claims "take this, and your metabolism turns into a 5000% faster monster that'll rapidly burn all fat on your body" or some other *kitten*. I said it may "slightly" increase metabolism, when you have low or no tolerance to the caffeine and green tea extract. And that In my personal experience/opinion I did notice that with the stimulatory effects of the caffeine/green-tea-extract combination, my metabolism had been increased too as the weight I lost exceeded what should've been lost.
    The details being 28-30 pounds in 3 months even though my calorie deficit and exercise accounted for, I should not have lost more than 1.5-1.75lbs/week at most. The loss in 3 months being over 2.3-2.5lbs/week.
    I started my dieting and exercise 1 week prior to the 3 months I just stated there. Having already lost glycogen stores, waterweight and whatever else during that week. My calculations are excluding the weight lost during that week.
    I'm not saying its 100% solid proof. But for me personally - I feel it works - I feel its effective - I sincerely believe that for some people, the combination of caffeine and green tea extract, would benefit their weight loss and hasten it just a little for a couple of months if combined with a calorie deficit and exercise.
    But maybe not. Maybe i'm completely wrong and they did nothing. Maybe my body just reacted unusually and lost weight it shouldn't have. But guess what - I don't care. I still believe the caffeine/GTE had a helping hand in it. And I wont go scrounging up 4.5 months of my own online research for you.
  • jamesmorin59
    jamesmorin59 Posts: 37 Member
    IvanOcampo wrote: »
    IvanOcampo wrote: »
    IvanOcampo wrote: »
    Just keep at it - with 20% body fat, weight loss pills won't work..
    Anything you do, as long as you're eating correctly, will help you lose weight..

    If you REALLY want to burn some fat fast, do fasted cardio as soon as you wake up..
    And don't eat right away..

    When I cut, I do intermittent fasting, which might just be bioscience but works for me in speeding up weight loss..
    Thanks

    I never heard of fasted cardio , I will give this a go

    Also was a typo 25f 45c 30p

    I hope that's still a typo.
    That equates to around 525 calories..!

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    25f 45c 30p


    Aah.. Sorry, you meant percentages..
    Makes sense now..

    See what works for you.. How much do you weigh now?
    Given a bf% of 20, I'd drop fats to 55 grams and protein down to 180.. And increase carbs accordingly.
    3x week hiit cardio and a weight lifting program.. Do it consistently and measure your results.. You should see your weight dropping weekly.

    Thanks again

    I have read enough to not bother with pills, I may try caffeine pills , even then, keep them for when I feel I need them most for extra energy,

    Currently weigh 162lbs roughly and
    Started at around 175lbs and I have been losin 1lb a week a couple of 2lb weeks but now is slowing down 1lb every 2 weeks.

    So I will adjust my macros as you stated above and see how that goes



  • jamesmorin59
    jamesmorin59 Posts: 37 Member
    Shadowsan wrote: »
    Think about it as a long term lifestyle change, and say it'll take as long as it takes. Then keep plugging away.

    I agree and do this exactly, with a treat meal when I go out with the family,
    however as summer is getting closer I was looking for a kick forwards,
  • IvanOcampo
    IvanOcampo Posts: 226 Member
    IvanOcampo wrote: »
    IvanOcampo wrote: »
    IvanOcampo wrote: »
    Just keep at it - with 20% body fat, weight loss pills won't work..
    Anything you do, as long as you're eating correctly, will help you lose weight..

    If you REALLY want to burn some fat fast, do fasted cardio as soon as you wake up..
    And don't eat right away..

    When I cut, I do intermittent fasting, which might just be bioscience but works for me in speeding up weight loss..
    Thanks

    I never heard of fasted cardio , I will give this a go

    Also was a typo 25f 45c 30p

    I hope that's still a typo.
    That equates to around 525 calories..!

    wdkisdeqr7rw.jpg

    25f 45c 30p


    Aah.. Sorry, you meant percentages..
    Makes sense now..

    See what works for you.. How much do you weigh now?
    Given a bf% of 20, I'd drop fats to 55 grams and protein down to 180.. And increase carbs accordingly.
    3x week hiit cardio and a weight lifting program.. Do it consistently and measure your results.. You should see your weight dropping weekly.

    Thanks again

    I have read enough to not bother with pills, I may try caffeine pills , even then, keep them for when I feel I need them most for extra energy,

    Currently weigh 162lbs roughly and
    Started at around 175lbs and I have been losin 1lb a week a couple of 2lb weeks but now is slowing down 1lb every 2 weeks.

    So I will adjust my macros as you stated above and see how that goes



    Mm okay. You really don't need more than a gram of protein per pound of body weight unless you're trying to put on weight or are doing some seriously heavy lifting.

    Cut your protein down to 165 and increase your carbs according.
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