Question for those who vape

I had no idea about this popcorn lung thing. Im smoking my e-cig now and I now want to quit. Ahhhh

I think you'd have to "vape" about 2 packs a day for it to be a concern. Though, when you're ready to wean off, maybe you have a tool to help.

christinev297 wrote: »

Sorry, I didn't know where else to ask this question. Chit chat didn't seem like the right place as it seems to be all fun and games over there...

Anyway my question is to those who have gone from smoking cigarettes to using vaporisers. I have been using one for 2mths. I am very worried about the Diacetyl in the flavours, which apparently causes "popcorn lung" and goodness knows what else...
I ordered 3 flavours which are Diacetyl free, but they taste disgusting. All the yummy flavours contain it!!
What are your thoughts, are you worried about this stuff?

I tried to vape but found I have a sensitivity to the chemical compounds in them. Unless you are vaping 24/7 I don't think it would be a huge issue. You traded one habit for another but its still better than cigarettes.

Not sure what chemical your talking about to be honest, and I vape. 125 days and not one smoke.

I looked it up...Diacetyl occurs naturally in alcoholic beverages and is added to some foods to impart its buttery flavor. I wouldn't worry about it....vape scaremongers.

My juice has the following 4 ingredients

Vegetable glycerin, nicotine, propylene glycol and flavor.

https://canadavapes.com/health/propylene-glycol-safety.html

I googled. Several cases from a factory, and one case from a dude who ate popcorn every day for 10 years).

DaneanP wrote: »

Many of our local communities are banning vaping in public places due to health concerns associated with them. The American Lung Association indicates that tests show many of the same carcinogenic properties in vapor that are in cigarettes. Many of the flavors are made in China and are not regulated. As a nurse, I would never recommend vaping to any patient who asked me.

That said, I do know of several people who successfully quit smoking with vaping. I think if using this product temporarily as a step down toward quitting smoking it would be worth the risks. Vaping just for fun doesn't seem to me to be a very good idea.

There aren't enough studies to even say any of this.

The juice I use is made in the store as I wait...I would take vaping over smoking 100% and if you can point us to a peer reviewed study or studies that show that vaping liquid has many of the same carcinegenic properties as smoking I would love to see them.

As a nurse you should have an open mind about vaping until more studies are done...

Even my own doctor who is very anti smoking and has done studies on smoking etc isn't concerned with my vaping...as long as I am not smoking and inhaling 4000 known chemicals which include known carcinogenic chemicals she is good.

It was a nurse that turned my family and I onto vaporizers at the end of February while we were visiting my father at the hospital. Five out of six of us have been cigarette smoke free for a month or more now thanks to using a vaporizer, and we're working on convincing the last smoker to join with us. All of those who quit, including myself, had been smokers for at least 10 years, and all had previously tried numerous ways to stop smoking with no success. We all started at a nicotine level of 18-24 and are now using 6-12, looking to be at zero by the start of summer.

I know there may be harmful effects from using the vaporizer, but there are definitely, not possibly, very harmful effects from smoking cigarettes. It is a risk I am willing to take.

I honestly don't understand all of the fear mongering associated with vaping. It's like telling a person trapped on the 10th floor of a burning building that they should rather take their chances jumping out of the window or stay put, but whatever they do, do not take the stairs because it is not 100% clear whether or not the lower floors are also engulfed in flames. I can't make sense of it.

DaneanP wrote: »

I have no problem with more studies being done and I would be open to reading them and changing my mind should research indicate they are safe. For now, I will trust The American Lung Association and their reviews of the literature. http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/tobacco-control-advocacy/federal/e-cigarettes.html

As a nurse, I am fully capable of reaching my own conclusions based on the research I have done myself. Thanks and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop jumping to the conclusion that I do not have an open mind. You don't know me.

that is not peer reviewed

Presently there is no government oversight of these products. Absent Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulation, there is no way for the public health and medical community or consumers to know what chemicals are contained in e-cigarettes (also known as electronic nicotine delivery systems or ENDS) or what the short- and long-term health implications might be.

bolded part indicates not peer reviewed and there aren't enough studies on these products let alone peer reviewed.

and this part is indicating propylene glycol is an preservative in food and Propylene glycol is used in veterinary medicine as an oral treatment for hyperketonaemia and it is used in drugs for humans......and it has to be in high does in oral consumption by humans for it to be an issue.

as a nurse you should know this.

and based on your first post

The American Lung Association indicates that tests show many of the same carcinogenic properties in vapor that are in cigarettes. Many of the flavors are made in China and are not regulated. As a nurse, I would never recommend vaping to any patient who asked me.

that is closed minded.

I don't need to know you personally to see that the statement above is close minded.

SezxyStef wrote: »

DaneanP wrote: »

I have no problem with more studies being done and I would be open to reading them and changing my mind should research indicate they are safe. For now, I will trust The American Lung Association and their reviews of the literature. http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/tobacco-control-advocacy/federal/e-cigarettes.html

As a nurse, I am fully capable of reaching my own conclusions based on the research I have done myself. Thanks and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop jumping to the conclusion that I do not have an open mind. You don't know me.

that is not peer reviewed

Presently there is no government oversight of these products. Absent Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulation, there is no way for the public health and medical community or consumers to know what chemicals are contained in e-cigarettes (also known as electronic nicotine delivery systems or ENDS) or what the short- and long-term health implications might be.

bolded part indicates not peer reviewed and there aren't enough studies on these products let alone peer reviewed.

and this part is indicating propylene glycol is an preservative in food and Propylene glycol is used in veterinary medicine as an oral treatment for hyperketonaemia and it is used in drugs for humans......and it has to be in high does in oral consumption by humans for it to be an issue.

as a nurse you should know this.

and based on your first post

The American Lung Association indicates that tests show many of the same carcinogenic properties in vapor that are in cigarettes. Many of the flavors are made in China and are not regulated. As a nurse, I would never recommend vaping to any patient who asked me.

that is closed minded.

I don't need to know you personally to see that the statement above is close minded.

Look obviously I have touched a nerve with you. But again, since you don't know me AT ALL I fail to see how you can leap to such a conclusion about how open my mind is.

@jalynn82 no worries. I'm not taking this personally. Just a discussion on a message board. Thanks for the post.

the post above is great.
to the Original poster great job on quitting smoking. Next goal should be reduce and then eliminate vape. You will be healthier and then not worry about the unregulated health risks.