monohydrate or Ethel ester?
Pelamblue
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I have taken monohydrate before and it always bloats me. I have read about Ethel ester but I understand it's not that brilliant... Any thoughts or advice
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Eat food.0
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kommodevaran wrote: »Eat food.
good chat0 -
I take MuscleTech CreaCore...good stuff...no bloating...no need to load.0
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Are you taking pure mono? It should not bloat you. Make you gain water weight, yes, but bloating, no.0
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The OP asked for advice, I gave mine.
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No I'm not taking any kind of creatine at the moment. I have taken the powder and tablets and both seem to make me bloat. Whilst I'm a few few pounds from a six pack I get really bloated and my stomach goes solid. It's really annoying because the upshot is my strength goes through the roof when I'm on itAre you taking pure mono? It should not bloat you. Make you gain water weight, yes, but bloating, no.
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FWIW, Ethyl ester has been shown to be less effective than mono.0
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FWIW??? What does this mean??
And yeh thought that was the case, was just wondering if anyone had been on it?0 -
No I'm not taking any kind of creatine at the moment. I have taken the powder and tablets and both seem to make me bloat. Whilst I'm a few few pounds from a six pack I get really bloated and my stomach goes solid. It's really annoying because the upshot is my strength goes through the roof when I'm on itAre you taking pure mono? It should not bloat you. Make you gain water weight, yes, but bloating, no.
I would go with just pure mono. I use ON micronized (less gag worthy texture lol) personally.
Possibly you could cycle off it during 'shirt off' season if you are getting bloat from it. My other thought is that you may be a little sensitive from a GI perspective. Make sure you keep hydrated (hydration requirements go up).
What dose were you using?
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kommodevaran wrote: »
The OP asked for advice, I gave mine.
Maybe I should of asked for intelligent advice... My mistake0 -
I did the loading phase then I think training days was about 3 x5g scoops a day and rest days was just the one at night
No I'm not taking any kind of creatine at the moment. I have taken the powder and tablets and both seem to make me bloat. Whilst I'm a few few pounds from a six pack I get really bloated and my stomach goes solid. It's really annoying because the upshot is my strength goes through the roof when I'm on itAre you taking pure mono? It should not bloat you. Make you gain water weight, yes, but bloating, no.
I would go with just pure mono. I use ON micronized (less gag worthy texture lol) personally.
Possibly you could cycle off it during 'shirt off' season if you are getting bloat from it. My other thought is that you may be a little sensitive from a GI perspective. Make sure you keep hydrated (hydration requirements go up).
What dose were you using?
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kommodevaran wrote: »
The OP asked for advice, I gave mine.
Yes, you did. It made no sense based on what the OP was asking, but you did give your 'advice'.0 -
kommodevaran wrote: »
The OP asked for advice, I gave mine.
Maybe I should of asked for intelligent advice... My mistake
Or at least that of someone who actually knew what monohydrate means/does!0 -
I've always found plain monohydrate to work best and it's dirt cheap these days which is a plus. I try to take roughly 5g per 100lbs of body weight and it seems to work better for me at that dose. Be sure when you are taking it with something that will spike your insulin levels post workout to facilitate absorption into the muscle tissue.0
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As a vegetarian, I was using 7g (when I remember to take it lol) as you have less of a baseline if you do not eat meat. However, on looking into it further, the 5g was fine. Actually, 5g is more than plenty. If you need to drop the dose due to bloat/GI issues, then 3g should be fine.0 -
I've always found plain monohydrate to work best and it's dirt cheap these days which is a plus. I try to take roughly 5g per 100lbs of body weight and it seems to work better for me at that dose. Be sure when you are taking it with something that will spike your insulin levels post workout to facilitate absorption into the muscle tissue.
I have never heard of the need to spike insulin. Where are you seeing that advised?
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kommodevaran wrote: »
The OP asked for advice, I gave mine.
And the OP wasn't even talking about food so you advice wasn't even remotely relevant.
I did the loading phase then I think training days was about 3 x5g scoops a day and rest days was just the one at night
No I'm not taking any kind of creatine at the moment. I have taken the powder and tablets and both seem to make me bloat. Whilst I'm a few few pounds from a six pack I get really bloated and my stomach goes solid. It's really annoying because the upshot is my strength goes through the roof when I'm on itAre you taking pure mono? It should not bloat you. Make you gain water weight, yes, but bloating, no.
I would go with just pure mono. I use ON micronized (less gag worthy texture lol) personally.
Possibly you could cycle off it during 'shirt off' season if you are getting bloat from it. My other thought is that you may be a little sensitive from a GI perspective. Make sure you keep hydrated (hydration requirements go up).
What dose were you using?
In my opinion that could be the issue.
Quite possibly. I would go with not loading and just 3g (which is likely more than enough) a day.0 -
I've always found plain monohydrate to work best and it's dirt cheap these days which is a plus. I try to take roughly 5g per 100lbs of body weight and it seems to work better for me at that dose. Be sure when you are taking it with something that will spike your insulin levels post workout to facilitate absorption into the muscle tissue.
I have never heard of the need to spike insulin. Where are you seeing that advised?
I have actually heard of this, but didn't know if it was just 'bro science '.0 -
kommodevaran wrote: »
The OP asked for advice, I gave mine.
And the OP wasn't even talking about food so you advice wasn't even remotely relevant.
I did the loading phase then I think training days was about 3 x5g scoops a day and rest days was just the one at night
No I'm not taking any kind of creatine at the moment. I have taken the powder and tablets and both seem to make me bloat. Whilst I'm a few few pounds from a six pack I get really bloated and my stomach goes solid. It's really annoying because the upshot is my strength goes through the roof when I'm on itAre you taking pure mono? It should not bloat you. Make you gain water weight, yes, but bloating, no.
I would go with just pure mono. I use ON micronized (less gag worthy texture lol) personally.
Possibly you could cycle off it during 'shirt off' season if you are getting bloat from it. My other thought is that you may be a little sensitive from a GI perspective. Make sure you keep hydrated (hydration requirements go up).
What dose were you using?
In my opinion that could be the issue.
Quite possibly. I would go with not loading and just 3g (which is likely more than enough) a day.
3g a day? . I used to take 5g per serving, and take 3 servings a day. That like you say would more than likely explain the bloating. I will try this.
Thanks for all your advice guys0 -
Assuming you're taking creatine post workout you should be taking in some sort of quick digesting carb (dextrose, waxy maize) anyways to facilitate glycogen repletion in muscle tissue. I have to plead ignorance as to whether or not insulin directly enhances creatine absorption but having insulin around post workout is going to at least shift your body toward a more anabolic state which would lead me to believe creatine could then be more readily absorbed0
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plain mono is much easier to take as well.Assuming you're taking creatine post workout you should be taking in some sort of quick digesting carb (dextrose, waxy maize) anyways to facilitate glycogen repletion in muscle tissue. I have to plead ignorance as to whether or not insulin directly enhances creatine absorption but having insulin around post workout is going to at least shift your body toward a more anabolic state which would lead me to believe creatine could then be more readily absorbed
less relevant than the dogma of 5 years ago would have you believe.
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kommodevaran wrote: »
The OP asked for advice, I gave mine.
And you made yourself look foolish0 -
Monohydrate doesn't seem worth the risks.
http://ckj.oxfordjournals.org/content/4/1/23
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/ucm371328.htm0 -
britishbroccoli wrote: »Monohydrate doesn't seem worth the risks.
http://ckj.oxfordjournals.org/content/4/1/23
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/ucm371328.htm
So a single case report about acute tubular necrosis and another study that isn't about creatine at all? Strong evidence.
Taking Advil when you're dehydrated can cause renal failure and acute tubular necrosis but I think I'll still take it for a headache.0 -
I dont think the second link is about creatine? The first one is a single case compared to the many tens or hundreds of thousands who have used with no reported side effects over many years? Not sure am persuaded the risk is that high from those links.0
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