HELP! Dietician's recommendation

LFiestan
LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
edited November 16 in Food and Nutrition
Hello everyone,
I would like to know if this diet plan that my dietician recommended is right. It seems like something i cant follow coz it all looks too small and wont amount to 1600 calories like she tells me. I told her im doing weights and cardio at least 5-6 days a week and take 1200 cal as recommended by MFP. Ive been sticking to my usual diet for 1 month and have lost 3kg already. I went to the dietician hoping to learn more about what i should be eating to lose weight.

Heres the plan she gave me :
Breakfast - 1 egg (or 2 egg whites), 2 slice bread, 1 fruit, 1 cup low fat milk, salad
Lunch - 90g (meat, chicken, fish) 1 cup rice or 2 slice bread, salad (as much as i want)
snack- 1 fruit or 1 cup low fat milk
Dinner - 60g (meat, chicken, fish), 2 slice bread, 1 cup low fat milk. lots of salad

The thing is, she told me to stick to these foods for 2 months, i dont wanna be eating the same things everyday, would you? and if you notice the food from lunch to dinner is the same as well.
The way i see it, this doesnt even amout to 1600calories.

My diet depends on my days. When i dont do workouts i eat less or stick to 1200. On days when im working out, i tend to eat more at lunch particularly protein since i do weights, thus reaching to 1400-1600cal. This is how my meals like usually:

Breakfast - 1 cup oatmeal (with milk) or 1 egg and salad, tea with honey (or milk with sugar)
Lunch - 100g-140g fillet fish or 1 chicken legthigh (im not much into meat) + salad (with homemade honey mustard dressing, 1 tortilla wrap or 1cup rice
snacks - varies (nuts, sorbet, 1small muffin, fruit)
Dinner - salads+honey mustard, 80-140g tuna or any fish, 1 cup milk

btw, i usually bake my food or boil+steam them, she told me i east too much carbs, but in her plan, i see more carbs than what im taking. If you notice, her recommended protein is smaller than mine. i figured since im doing weights i should add more to protein, please correct me if im wrong on this.

Any thoughts, opinions, advice? Thanks


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  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    You're right. It is a stupid plan. You need more fat and oil. :) Perhaps reduce some carbs in order to eat whole eggs, regular fat milk, beef, pork, tuna, salmon, nuts, avocados.
    Boiling and steaming gets boring real fast. Try pan frying, baking, broiling, grilling.
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    Demand your money back :s
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    RodaRose wrote: »
    You're right. It is a stupid plan. You need more fat and oil. :) Perhaps reduce some carbs in order to eat whole eggs, regular fat milk, beef, pork, tuna, salmon, nuts, avocados.
    Boiling and steaming gets boring real fast. Try pan frying, baking, broiling, grilling.

    ahaha thought so. I was thinking if i should follow her coz she is the dietician. I got discouraged when she gave me the plan lol. Ive tried that approach several years ago and it made me hungry everyday thus made me stop dieting. But now i know better.

    So far ive reduced my carbs :) i use a bit of oil (coconut or olive) when i sautee my food :D and yes nuts and salmon almost always in my meal :D

    Thanks

  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    Demand your money back :s

    Consultation is free (benefits of my work) thank goodness hehehe
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    LFiestan wrote: »
    Demand your money back :s

    Consultation is free (benefits of my work) thank goodness hehehe

    Aah! That's good :)

    You can eat anything you want within your calorie goal. Aim for variety and focus on fresh produce, and you'll be fine.
  • isulo_kura
    isulo_kura Posts: 818 Member
    Is she actually a registered Dietitian? Not a Nutritionist? There's a big difference
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    That's from a dietician?

    for what goal?

    it looks ridiculous to me, particularly for someone who is lifting
  • Merci4u
    Merci4u Posts: 41 Member
    It doesn't sound right. Maybe she had you confused with someone else?
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    You can eat anything you want within your calorie goal. Aim for variety and focus on fresh produce, and you'll be fine.

    Great, so far im doing things right and lately have substituted most of my carbs for salads makes me fuller :)

  • mccanns725
    mccanns725 Posts: 36 Member
    Way too much bread in there! Weird plan. Glad you didn't pay for that.
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Is she actually a registered Dietitian? Not a Nutritionist? There's a big difference

    oh i have no idea, i trust that shes a certified dietician since theyre employed in a reputable hospital, but then again this hospital has had its share of doctors who couldnt even diagnose my simple ailment once ( like this Doctor, who doesnt know why have headaches and nausea, i later was told by a friend who was practicing medicine that all i needed were glasses, he was right, lol)
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    That's from a dietician?
    for what goal?
    it looks ridiculous to me, particularly for someone who is lifting

    lol, i told her my aim was to lose weight, i told her ive been exercising (weights and cardio and burn up to 800cal) she said that was good, so when i questioned her about the plan, all she said was i continue to eat more salad, and if im hungry at night, i should eat just yogurt with honey.

    oh and she said i should set a time to eat and stick to it. im ok with bfast and lunch but my dinner, i cant stick to the time since i usually come home at 8pm after gym. Is there suppose to be a difference?
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    Merci4u wrote: »
    It doesn't sound right. Maybe she had you confused with someone else?

    lol, first time to see her. last time i went to the dietician was over 8 yrs ago and her plan was almost the same plan as this one, thats why I had to ask here on MFP if its right or not.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    losing 6lb in a month wasn't good enough?
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    mccanns725 wrote: »
    Way too much bread in there! Weird plan. Glad you didn't pay for that.

    I know! thats was my reaction too! especially when she told me that my original food intake has "too much carbs" ahahahha, now that i think about it, maybe thats why her plan reached 1600cal. i dont eat alot of bread for the reason that it doesnt get me full and 1 slice has like 90-120cal? ild rather eat 2 fillets of salmon lol
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    LFiestan wrote: »
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Is she actually a registered Dietitian? Not a Nutritionist? There's a big difference

    oh i have no idea, i trust that shes a certified dietician since theyre employed in a reputable hospital, but then again this hospital has had its share of doctors who couldnt even diagnose my simple ailment once ( like this Doctor, who doesnt know why have headaches and nausea, i later was told by a friend who was practicing medicine that all i needed were glasses, he was right, lol)

    So you don't know.
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    mccanns725 wrote: »
    Way too much bread in there! Weird plan. Glad you didn't pay for that.

    Not according to the dietary guidelines. Urgh.
    I'm studying to be a dietician - I want the qualification but I don't want to work somewhere I need to follow those guidelines. Ridiculous.

    OP - please eat more fat.... Go with your gut, you're questioning it, so you obviously don't agree with it (and rightly so). Either keep doing your own thing, or get a second opinion
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    losing 6lb in a month wasn't good enough?

    thats actually a month and 1 week :) when i went to the dietician (2 weeks ago) i wasnt losing much or so i thought. Turns out it was water weight and been packing muscles, i weighed myself last Saturday and realized ive lost another kilo :)

    also, i was wondering what food they served me when i was admitted to the same hospital last year. i lost 5kg in 5 days just sleeping and staying in bed all day, so i figured i was probably missing something.
  • mmonaghan99
    mmonaghan99 Posts: 45 Member
    Yeah, her saying you eat too many carbs and then recommeding more is weird. And her plan has almost no fats which is not good for lifting. You need more protein and fat than that. And like you said, you end up going off the diet when you have to eat the same thing every day. If you get bored, if it feels like a "diet", it's not going to be sustainable. You need something you can stick to. I would go crazy trying her plan.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    edited April 2015
    mccanns725 wrote: »
    Way too much bread in there! Weird plan. Glad you didn't pay for that.

    Not according to the dietary guidelines. Urgh.
    I'm studying to be a dietician - I want the qualification but I don't want to work somewhere I need to follow those guidelines. Ridiculous.

    OP - please eat more fat.... Go with your gut, you're questioning it, so you obviously don't agree with it (and rightly so). Either keep doing your own thing, or get a second opinion

    Really. I know one studying too. Would you agree though that you do not have to count calories to lose weight. This person I know has got into a debate with me on why I count calories. I just laugh though. She preaches learning to eat intuitive eating. She also tries to preach about how people are not robots and CICO doesn't work like how people think.

    You should of saw her face when I took out my food scale to weigh dinner? Priceless
  • bajoyba
    bajoyba Posts: 1,153 Member
    I'm certainly not a registered dietitian, but that diet seems a little off. I'm not against bread or anything, but recommending 6 slices of bread in a day seems strange. If you have a specific carb goal to hit, there are much more varied and nutritious carb choices out there than just eating a ton of bread every day...

    If it were me, I would not take her advice. But again, I'm not a medical professional. As mentioned above, you can eat whatever you want to lose weight, as long as you're in a calorie deficit. If you have more specific fitness goals, then you can adjust your macro settings as needed and eat foods that help you meet those macro goals. A lot of people like a 40/30/30 breakdown (40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% fat), but it's personal preference and really depends on what helps you feel best throughout the day. I set my macros pretty close to that and always focused on my protein first, fat second, and carbs third. :)
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    LFiestan wrote: »
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Is she actually a registered Dietitian? Not a Nutritionist? There's a big difference

    oh i have no idea, i trust that shes a certified dietician since theyre employed in a reputable hospital, but then again this hospital has had its share of doctors who couldnt even diagnose my simple ailment once ( like this Doctor, who doesnt know why have headaches and nausea, i later was told by a friend who was practicing medicine that all i needed were glasses, he was right, lol)

    So you don't know.

    nope, i was hoping that this time around ild be getting a different opinion, but it turns out is the same plan that another dietician (from same hospital) recommended to me around 8 yrs ago.
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    edited April 2015
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    mccanns725 wrote: »
    Way too much bread in there! Weird plan. Glad you didn't pay for that.

    Not according to the dietary guidelines. Urgh.
    I'm studying to be a dietician - I want the qualification but I don't want to work somewhere I need to follow those guidelines. Ridiculous.

    OP - please eat more fat.... Go with your gut, you're questioning it, so you obviously don't agree with it (and rightly so). Either keep doing your own thing, or get a second opinion

    Really. I know one studying too. Would you agree though that you do not have to count calories to lose weight. This person I know has got into a debate with me on why I count calories. I just laugh though. She preaches learning to eat intuitive eating. She also tries to preach about how people are not robots and CICO doesn't work like how people think.

    You should of saw her face when I took out my food scale to weigh dinner? Priceless

    Haha... No, I completely agree with tracking intake. There are many things that change your output, everyone is individual... But at the end of the day, you just need to put in less than you're using.
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    mccanns725 wrote: »
    Way too much bread in there! Weird plan. Glad you didn't pay for that.

    Not according to the dietary guidelines. Urgh.
    I'm studying to be a dietician - I want the qualification but I don't want to work somewhere I need to follow those guidelines. Ridiculous.

    OP - please eat more fat.... Go with your gut, you're questioning it, so you obviously don't agree with it (and rightly so). Either keep doing your own thing, or get a second opinion

    OMG u brought up guidelines. i remember she was looking thought a small booklet with some sort of guides and she was doing some calculations and asked me questions like if my period is regular or not, if ive got thyroid problems and etc. I thought that was strange, i guess she was sticking to whatever guides shes been taught.
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    Yeah, her saying you eat too many carbs and then recommeding more is weird. And her plan has almost no fats which is not good for lifting. You need more protein and fat than that. And like you said, you end up going off the diet when you have to eat the same thing every day. If you get bored, if it feels like a "diet", it's not going to be sustainable. You need something you can stick to. I would go crazy trying her plan.

    my diet has been experimental and ive been on and off coz back then i didnt have variety and didnt know what and how i should be eating. in 2008 i tried to follow a meal plan where i had to eat for lunch was onions, 1 can tuna and 3 crackers, almost no dinner or breakfast, then exercise for 1 hr. i did lose alot of water weight but after 3 months i quit lol.

    AFter some research and finding MFP i started to hv more knowlege about what certain foods i should eat and calorie counting. This time, i learned how much fats and proteins are essential if im doing lifts. :smile:
  • r5d5
    r5d5 Posts: 219 Member
    Well, I'm just playing devil's advocate...some in the nutrition field are all for getting 4 to 6 servings of grain a day (more or less depending on the person) because they find that grains are helpful for satiation, digestion, and energy, as opposed to getting all your carbohydrates from fruits and vegetables. Obviously nutrition is complicated, and I believe completely varies person to person, as we all have different needs and goals.
    If she is a "nutritionist" then she isn't exactly a professional. Anyone can get certified for that. Dieticians go to school to get educated in food health.
    Either way, honestly, it sounds like you said on your own personal plan you've been losing weight, and it sounds like you probably try to hit some macronutrients. So congrats on your success! Keep at it! I guess what you could take away from the woman's advice is that protein is good, and you can work some grains in your diet, if you want to :)
  • LFiestan
    LFiestan Posts: 175 Member
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    mccanns725 wrote: »
    Way too much bread in there! Weird plan. Glad you didn't pay for that.

    Not according to the dietary guidelines. Urgh.
    I'm studying to be a dietician - I want the qualification but I don't want to work somewhere I need to follow those guidelines. Ridiculous.

    OP - please eat more fat.... Go with your gut, you're questioning it, so you obviously don't agree with it (and rightly so). Either keep doing your own thing, or get a second opinion

    Really. I know one studying too. Would you agree though that you do not have to count calories to lose weight. This person I know has got into a debate with me on why I count calories. I just laugh though. She preaches learning to eat intuitive eating. She also tries to preach about how people are not robots and CICO doesn't work like how people think.

    You should of saw her face when I took out my food scale to weigh dinner? Priceless

    Intuitive eating? lol doesnt work on me. I stopped logging my calories for a year i think and just ate whatever, even thought i was eating right, but turns out there are some food that might be the same but one has more calorie than the other, get what i mean? lately ive been cooking my meals, that way i know whats in it.
  • jcow84
    jcow84 Posts: 75 Member
    You asked about the dietitian recommending you eat at set times - I don't believe this makes any difference to calories ingested, but she could have been saying that to prevent mindless snacking. Some people need a cut off time to stop eating - but that's all mental and doesn't have anything to do with digestion.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    mccanns725 wrote: »
    Way too much bread in there! Weird plan. Glad you didn't pay for that.

    Not according to the dietary guidelines. Urgh.
    I'm studying to be a dietician - I want the qualification but I don't want to work somewhere I need to follow those guidelines. Ridiculous.

    OP - please eat more fat.... Go with your gut, you're questioning it, so you obviously don't agree with it (and rightly so). Either keep doing your own thing, or get a second opinion

    Really. I know one studying too. Would you agree though that you do not have to count calories to lose weight. This person I know has got into a debate with me on why I count calories. I just laugh though. She preaches learning to eat intuitive eating. She also tries to preach about how people are not robots and CICO doesn't work like how people think.

    You should of saw her face when I took out my food scale to weigh dinner? Priceless

    Haha... No, I completely agree with tracking intake. There are many things that change your output, everyone is individual... But at the end of the day, you just need to put in less than you're using.

    OK that is of course CICO but how does someone do this without counting calories. It can be done but its like a guessing game of how much to burn and how much you eat. BTW I have no problem counting and I am sure I will for this whole year.

  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    LFiestan wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    mccanns725 wrote: »
    Way too much bread in there! Weird plan. Glad you didn't pay for that.

    Not according to the dietary guidelines. Urgh.
    I'm studying to be a dietician - I want the qualification but I don't want to work somewhere I need to follow those guidelines. Ridiculous.

    OP - please eat more fat.... Go with your gut, you're questioning it, so you obviously don't agree with it (and rightly so). Either keep doing your own thing, or get a second opinion

    Really. I know one studying too. Would you agree though that you do not have to count calories to lose weight. This person I know has got into a debate with me on why I count calories. I just laugh though. She preaches learning to eat intuitive eating. She also tries to preach about how people are not robots and CICO doesn't work like how people think.

    You should of saw her face when I took out my food scale to weigh dinner? Priceless

    Intuitive eating? lol doesnt work on me. I stopped logging my calories for a year i think and just ate whatever, even thought i was eating right, but turns out there are some food that might be the same but one has more calorie than the other, get what i mean? lately ive been cooking my meals, that way i know whats in it.

    Yup I weigh my foods and nothing is usually the same amount of grams. Even package bars I notice have more grams than what is on the nutrition facts.

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