Doctor Recommended Low Carb Low Fat Diet Advice
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GuyIncognito123 wrote: »Ideal Protein is a low carb, low fat diet. There is also a group on MFP also.
Our IP Clinics here have a doctor on staff along with the coaches.
I believe Pro Energy is also low carb, low fat.
Also... you won't find a lot of support on the main forums for anything that isn't CICO.
All diets are CICO. Even the one's you mentioned. CICO is the overarching umbrella to all diets.0 -
I have never heard of a low carb, low fat diet being prescribed to help with anything. Seems strange to me.
On March 25th I had a heart attack and I am on a low fat, decreased carb, no green vegetables, low sugar and low calorie ( 1000 calories, which at almost 70 and under five feet tall is not too bad at all....especially since I eat only two meals and don't snack ) diet to help heart health along. I had already lost 55 pounds, but need to lose a bit more to stay heart healthy.
I checked things out and discovered that this is the kind of diet major cardiac hospitals ( that includes the Mayo Clinic in the US) give to their MI recovery patients until they are stabilized ( takes on average 90 days ) at which point foods are slowly added to the diet again
There are maybe no general benefits to that kind of diet, but there are definitely specific ones.
Understood. I can understand reduced carb or whatever your doctor told you, but I don't consider that the same as low carb so that's where my confusion may be coming in.
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08robyngreen wrote: »Somebody has something wrong somewhere
Either your husband misunderstood or your doctor is giving inappropriate advice
I would question the advice and ask for a referral to consult a specialist ...a dietician
I would consider changing doctors too
I am betting that her husband misunderstood the doctor. The dietary advice seems very strange. Although I guess it depends on what mystery medical condition he has.
Unfortunately my husband did not question why they recommended that specific diet. All he knows is he has lymes disease, a vitamin D deficiency, and another condition that will improve if he switches to a low carb low fat diet. I put a call into his doctors office the doctor confirmed that she told him to switch to a low carb low fat diet for the duration of 6 months but said she would have to call him back to give more detail on the "mystery medical condition" because she is not able to share medical information with me even if he approves. According to her he never asked what was specifically abnormal in his blood work, apparently its in her nature not to share the diagnosis and just offer means to improve the problem. Until she calls him back though we will probably get a second opinion.
Is Lyme dz a new diagnosis? Is the doctor an M.D.? This seems like a huge amount of new diagnoses all at once.
You might want to get a second opinion. While Lyme disease is a very real condition, there are also a lot of quacks that diagnose everyone with Lyme disease.0 -
GuyIncognito123 wrote: »Ideal Protein is a low carb, low fat diet. There is also a group on MFP also.
Our IP Clinics here have a doctor on staff along with the coaches.
I believe Pro Energy is also low carb, low fat.
Also... you won't find a lot of support on the main forums for anything that isn't CICO.
The problem with talking about low this or that is that it means nothing without specific percentages or gram numbers.
Low carb is what, under 15% normally? (Yes, I know some people call it low carb if it's 40% or under, which I think is nutty, but illustrates the issue.) Low fat tends to be something similar. If you eat 30% carbs+fat, that leaves 70% for protein, which is extreme. But lots of people seem to call low carb/high protien something that's more moderate everything (like 40-30-30) simply because it's lower carb and higher protein than the SAD.
This has nothing to do with CICO--I think CICO is why ALL diets work, but there's a wide range of reasonable macro ratios. Genuinely high protein and low fat AND carbs is usually not one of them and can be problematic in some ways (like digestion), so understanding what those terms mean to the doctor and why they are recommended is important, and getting tips on how to implement something like that also could be. That's why I think the plan to go back to the doctor and ask for a referral to a dietician is a good one.
To the OP, my mother also fails to ask follow up questions of her doctor way too often, so I see how you could be left with confusing instructions/information if your husband didn't do that.0 -
OP I think you really should find out exactly WHY the Dr is recommending this before you start to take people's dietary opinions on here. There might be some mis understanding or some reason as to your husbands health benefit for the recommended diet. I don't know about others but when my Dr recommends something I trust their advise and ask lots of questions to understand why they are recommending things.
Also when I found out I had high triglycerides my Dr recommended that I eat a low carb low SATURATED fat diet (only healthy fats are ok).0 -
Maybe the doc meant low "sugar" / low fat?? I.e., whole grains are fine, but try to avoid high glycemic effect carbohydrates?
I agree with most -- best to talk with a dietician for a detailed plan.0 -
08robyngreen wrote: »Somebody has something wrong somewhere
Either your husband misunderstood or your doctor is giving inappropriate advice
I would question the advice and ask for a referral to consult a specialist ...a dietician
I would consider changing doctors too
I am betting that her husband misunderstood the doctor. The dietary advice seems very strange. Although I guess it depends on what mystery medical condition he has.
Unfortunately my husband did not question why they recommended that specific diet. All he knows is he has lymes disease, a vitamin D deficiency, and another condition that will improve if he switches to a low carb low fat diet. I put a call into his doctors office the doctor confirmed that she told him to switch to a low carb low fat diet for the duration of 6 months but said she would have to call him back to give more detail on the "mystery medical condition" because she is not able to share medical information with me even if he approves. According to her he never asked what was specifically abnormal in his blood work, apparently its in her nature not to share the diagnosis and just offer means to improve the problem. Until she calls him back though we will probably get a second opinion.
Is Lyme dz a new diagnosis? Is the doctor an M.D.? This seems like a huge amount of new diagnoses all at once.
You might want to get a second opinion. While Lyme disease is a very real condition, there are also a lot of quacks that diagnose everyone with Lyme disease.
We went up to the hospital and got a print out of his results. He tested negative for Lymes (his doctor was treating him because its common in our area if you spend a lot of time outdoors and have aches turns out the achiness was just the flu), His vitamin D levels were about a quarter of what they should have been, and the mystery illness was just a high level of triglycerides (About double what they should have been) everything else they tested his blood for came back in a healthy range including cholesterol. I contacted a dietitian to get an understanding of what he should avoid and eat more of to find a diet that will help lower his levels. Thanks everyone for the recommendations.
I concluded we just have to find him a new doctor that pays attention to what her patients results come back as, very upset about the entire endeavor.0 -
are his triglycerides or cholesterol high?0
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08robyngreen wrote: »08robyngreen wrote: »Somebody has something wrong somewhere
Either your husband misunderstood or your doctor is giving inappropriate advice
I would question the advice and ask for a referral to consult a specialist ...a dietician
I would consider changing doctors too
I am betting that her husband misunderstood the doctor. The dietary advice seems very strange. Although I guess it depends on what mystery medical condition he has.
Unfortunately my husband did not question why they recommended that specific diet. All he knows is he has lymes disease, a vitamin D deficiency, and another condition that will improve if he switches to a low carb low fat diet. I put a call into his doctors office the doctor confirmed that she told him to switch to a low carb low fat diet for the duration of 6 months but said she would have to call him back to give more detail on the "mystery medical condition" because she is not able to share medical information with me even if he approves. According to her he never asked what was specifically abnormal in his blood work, apparently its in her nature not to share the diagnosis and just offer means to improve the problem. Until she calls him back though we will probably get a second opinion.
Is Lyme dz a new diagnosis? Is the doctor an M.D.? This seems like a huge amount of new diagnoses all at once.
You might want to get a second opinion. While Lyme disease is a very real condition, there are also a lot of quacks that diagnose everyone with Lyme disease.
We went up to the hospital and got a print out of his results. He tested negative for Lymes (his doctor was treating him because its common in our area if you spend a lot of time outdoors and have aches turns out the achiness was just the flu), His vitamin D levels were about a quarter of what they should have been, and the mystery illness was just a high level of triglycerides (About double what they should have been) everything else they tested his blood for came back in a healthy range including cholesterol. I contacted a dietitian to get an understanding of what he should avoid and eat more of to find a diet that will help lower his levels. Thanks everyone for the recommendations.
I concluded we just have to find him a new doctor that pays attention to what her patients results come back as, very upset about the entire endeavor.
Good for you for pursuing this!!!
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