Weight Watchers
ntenna01
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So last year I did not lose weight but I did lower my body fat percentage. W
My doctor is flummoxed, has ran all the tests she can think of and wants to send me to a nutritionist BUT my health insurance won't cover it (and I cannot afford it on my own) since I am not diabetic. *sigh* Meanwhile they will cover three months of WW(maybe you have to apply)to help with weight loss.
I have about 20-25lbs to lose and wonder if this is a good fit for me. Not to mention if I am still not losing weight is this a wasted benefit?
Has anyone used WW for a similar weight loss amount? Has it been helpful?
My doctor is flummoxed, has ran all the tests she can think of and wants to send me to a nutritionist BUT my health insurance won't cover it (and I cannot afford it on my own) since I am not diabetic. *sigh* Meanwhile they will cover three months of WW(maybe you have to apply)to help with weight loss.
I have about 20-25lbs to lose and wonder if this is a good fit for me. Not to mention if I am still not losing weight is this a wasted benefit?
Has anyone used WW for a similar weight loss amount? Has it been helpful?
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Why not use MFP as it's free?0
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I say use the MFP tool. Put 100% effort, dedication and commitment to this and ITS FREE. This works and I do not beleive IMO that you NO NEED do both MFP and weight watchers.. CHOOSE ONE.
1) Get a food scale, weigh and log everything.
2) Do cardio if you want, and if you do, only eat back 50% of your calories.
3) Lift weights if you can
4) Cheat meals over maintenance sabotages all your efforts.
5) If a cheat meal happens LOG IT.
6) You can lose weight eating the same things you do... JUST EAT SMALLER PORTIONS and MODERATION.
Best to choose foods to help you stay under your calories without feeling hungry.
Find these stickies in the forms:
Calorie Counting 101
• http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
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• and
• http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1234699-logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide
Set small goals instead a huge goals that may discourage you or prevent you from progressing.
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I have used WW in the past and it does work. It take an consistent effort to plan, prepare and track your meals and snacks. Concepts are very similar to MFP in that you can eat what you want in moderation. When I discovered MFP, I was pleased because I could use the same healthy habits I'd learned with WW and so far, its working for me as well. The bonus is that MFP is free. Free is always a plus...0
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I only have about 20 lbs to lose too and IMO I feel weight watchers or anything else that costs money is not for people who don't have more than at least 50 lbs to lose. I've lost 6 lbs already just counting calories and moving more!0
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I think anything "can" work and weight watchers really is a reasonable concept and just transfers many of the nutrients we count here into POINTS - I did weight watchers in the past and did lose weight - I did gain it back but it was my fault (not the system).0
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WW is basically just a dumbed down version of CICO. As your weight changes your points change. If you exercise, you get more points. And they also tell you x amount of points should come from fat, carbs, protein. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it works for a lot of people. It's just an expensive alternative to MFP.0
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Weight Watchers is not that much different than MFP (except) they count points and MFP counts actual calories and both do Activity.
1. MFP cost nothing it requires a little bit of your time and Honesty when it comes to amount of food you eat. MFP does not have Leaders, just us "everyday people" who understand the stresses of weight loss.
2. Weight Watchers cost $15-$50 per month (depends on plan), they dummy down the calorie counting to a point system and they also require you to be honest with how much you eat/ measure and weigh. They also have leaders that can lead you (for a short time) they now charge extra for this once free service.
See only difference is $ 15-50 or Free ....
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I used WW online a few years ago and lost 22 pounds in 2 months and got to my goal weight. In my opinion, MFP is pretty much the same- other than the method by which you track calories- and it's free- that's why I use it. WW also has forums that you can post in for support like these.0
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Having done both, I prefer counting calories to points - they're scientifically "real", while points are a construct... I don't know- it mentally is more meaningful to me. Though, either one will work if you stick with it!0
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I have done both and I definitely prefer WW. I was much more successful on WW. I find it less tedious and overall easier to follow. It's basically the same concept, eat less, move more and track, track, track. The only downside I found with WW is the cost. Which is why I do this....or I try anyway.0
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I lost weight doing WW. I was just getting started into a more healthy lifestyle and at the time I found it more accessible than full on calorie counting. Also for a lot of people having the accountability of going to a class and being weighed by another person really helps (I just did online).
Now I prefer MFP and counting calories. Although I lost weight on WW, I did end up skinny fat as I wasn't eating the right balance of macronutrients.
Give it a try. If it works for you, then great! It's what works for you that matters.0 -
I lost 100+ lbs doing WW, but I maintain with MFP. I use that fee to purchase running shoes, etc.0
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I lost 108 pounds on WW and I use many of the tools learned there to this day. The only reason I am not currently a member is due to a change in my financial situation. There are two programs... one you count points and the other you do not. I know many people who have been successful on both programs. It would definitely benefit you to check it out and learn the programs. If nothing else you will learn more about eating healthier.0
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For those asking why not just use MFP it's because we both (doctor and I) want someone to consult with me. While the last few months since my surgery have not been good .I really just got refocused last week due to a series of unfortunate eventS. Last year was different ... I regularly consumed between 1609-1800 calories daily. Actually did a lower carb diet because I slept better on it. Ran 4 days a week and did weights 2-3. I am a runner by passion and did obstacle course runs and this year a half marathon in October . There was literally no scale change although as I said BFP decreased. So she wants me to see someone who can fine tune diet hoping it helps0
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For those asking why not just use MFP it's because we both (doctor and I) want someone to consult with me. While the last few months since my surgery have not been good .I really just got refocused last week due to a series of unfortunate eventS. Last year was different ... I regularly consumed between 1609-1800 calories daily. Actually did a lower carb diet because I slept better on it. Ran 4 days a week and did weights 2-3. I am a runner by passion and did obstacle course runs and this year a half marathon in October . There was literally no scale change although as I said BFP decreased. So she wants me to see someone who can fine tune diet hoping it helps
What not just consult with your physician?
I've used weight watchers in the past, and yes, it can work. The only difference is, you pay 40 bucks a month to count "points" and on MFP you count calories for free.
Weight watchers would be the only diet system/plan/wtfe I could say is safe. They dont require crazy pills, certain foods, meal replacements, etc etc. Just please remember, if you do join, there is no "zero point" food. Sure, you can eat all the 0-point pickles you want, but know that you ARE consuming calories, not to mention a crapton of sodium, and if you go over calories, you can expect a gain.-1 -
WW totally works!! And if you aren't interested in measuring or tracking, you can do the Simply Filling plan. I lost 50 pounds on WW eating out every day!0
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I'm really not sure what you are expecting as far as getting help with fine tuning your diet. They have food guidelines (eat fruit and veggies, get in three servings of milk, etc) and will give help if you ask, but they don't sit down with you individually and give you a meal plan to follow. They will still suggest that you weigh out your portions and log it. I'm really surprised that your doctor suggested WW and not a registered dietitian.0
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I like mfp becaise it suits me and its the basic version of cico. WW is reinterpreted so they can charge you money. the advanatage I cna see for some is you get some social interaction in real life which some people like and helps. If you arent losing its more or less becayse you arent at deficit, if having someone at ww telling you that will help and you wnat to meet people irl then go for it.0
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The best thing I liked about WW? When they would call me up to get my stickers or pens and be like "Holly has lost a total of 35 pounds!" haha! (i like competition!)
But, as we can see, I stop paying to go do a simplified CICO, and I gained back.-1 -
I did WW for years but now do MFP. If you need a good start why not try WW and once you get the hang of it switch to MFP? Sometimes the new WW plan doesn't seem like it lets you have enough fat I feel. By counting calories I feel you can eat more satisfying food instead of a bunch of low fat empty calories. Also, 1600-1800 calories seems high. Have you entered all your info into MFP? I'm only allowed 1200. If I ate 1800 I would gain weight. Also with all that working out, are you eating enough protein? No matter which plan you use, if you stick with it, I know you will succeed! Like the cat poster in The Lego Movie says.... "Believe"0
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WW is a great program, very similar to MFP in that it is based on CICO (or in the case of WW, PIPO...points in, points out). It does work, if you work it (again, just like MFP).
I recently canceled my membership because I found that I can do just as well (if not better) with MFP, which of course is free. Also, the WW website is TERRIBLE, antiquated and slow. And I was constantly getting kicked off the mobile app.
If I'm going to be paying for the tools to lose weight, I think I can reasonably expect that those tools will work, but sadly with WW they don't, much of the time.0 -
I seemed to be hungry 24/7 on WW. I honestly think they had my points wrong and I was starving. Looking back they probably had me at 1200 calories a day and that's just not enough for me. I would bring it up to them that I was hungry all the time and they told me that it was my fault I was hungry all the time and I was eating incorrectly. I like MFP A LOT more. I'm hardly ever hungry on MFP and it's free.0
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" I'm really surprised that your doctor suggested WW and not a registered dietitian. "
She didn't she wants me in a nutritionist but my insurance will not cover it. They will cover WW. That's why I am asking about people's experiences with it. I don't actually feel its going to help and will probably pass on it as a "solution". Still leaves me without a solution.0 -
I am not a big fan of Weight Watchers, but I am not someone who enjoys that kind of social support group environment. I also feel like yhe point system is unnecessarily dumbed down and reduces flexibility. Others are very motivated by the environment and the point system is a helpful tool they find easier than traditional calorie counting. This becomes a decision based on personal preference.0
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I lost 30lbs using WW. I works in basically the same fashion as MFP does. Teaches you to eat right, portion control, better choices, etc However, I really like MFP better for two reasons. 1. It's free and 2. It's got better community support.0
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If you need the extra accountability WW may be better for you. If you are motivated and willing to stick with it on your own, MFP is all you need,0
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" I'm really surprised that your doctor suggested WW and not a registered dietitian. "
She didn't she wants me in a nutritionist but my insurance will not cover it. They will cover WW. That's why I am asking about people's experiences with it. I don't actually feel its going to help and will probably pass on it as a "solution". Still leaves me without a solution.
MFP is a solution.
My first suggestion would be to read all of the sticky threads on the Getting Started forum and learn how MFP works and how to set it up. Next get a food scale and start weighing everything. That is something that WW will recommend as well.
It would also be a great idea to open up your food diary and have others take a look to see if your food and exercise calories are being logged inaccurately. Overestimating exercise burns while underestimating food intake is a common issue for people who are having a hard time losing.0 -
I lost over 30 pounds on WW, but it was on their old PP plan in 2009 (fruits and veggies were still points). I think I needed the support of the meetings and the accountability of facing the scale "officially" at the meeting. I will tell you that finding the right meeting leader is essential. Some are not as motivating, so check out a few for "free" before settling down in a group.
Also, leaders will sit with you and review your tracker if you ask. Mine "counseled" me after/before meetings when I asked. She made suggestions based on what I was doing and it always helped me when I wasn't seeing results.
Another suggestion, have you tried looking into community resources? Some have Registered Dietitians that run programs/outreach for low cost, free, or sliding scale. Just a suggestion.
Best of luck! Hope you find something that works for you and the budget.0 -
For those asking why not just use MFP it's because we both (doctor and I) want someone to consult with me. While the last few months since my surgery have not been good .I really just got refocused last week due to a series of unfortunate eventS. Last year was different ... I regularly consumed between 1609-1800 calories daily. Actually did a lower carb diet because I slept better on it. Ran 4 days a week and did weights 2-3. I am a runner by passion and did obstacle course runs and this year a half marathon in October . There was literally no scale change although as I said BFP decreased. So she wants me to see someone who can fine tune diet hoping it helps
Weight Watchers leaders just don't have that level of expertise (I know, used to be one, so I know the training involved). Seriously, you won't get anything more from a WW leader than what you can get here on the forums from knowledgeable people. As someone else said, attending meetings can be really good for accountability if that's something you need help with.
My guess is that if your body fat % went down but you weren't losing weight, you weren't eating at a deficit.0 -
" I'm really surprised that your doctor suggested WW and not a registered dietitian. "
She didn't she wants me in a nutritionist but my insurance will not cover it. They will cover WW. That's why I am asking about people's experiences with it. I don't actually feel its going to help and will probably pass on it as a "solution". Still leaves me without a solution.
There is a solution... everyone here has told you the solution is to follow MFP.
I think the Weight Watchers point program is stupid. It's just dumbed down calorie counting and I'd rather track with greater accuracy. MFP also lets you track micro and macro nutrients while you can't do this on WW. The program on MFP allows you to take much more control.
However WW does have it's merits. I attend WW meetings every week. I don't follow the points program preferring to count calories here, but I find the meetings keep me accountable. I don't work due to a medical condition so I'm fairly isolated so attending a group with other people helps motivate me. I just lie to my leader and pretend I'm following the program.0
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