I'M getting fed up with all this weight loss crap because really i dont know whats going on.

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  • Crisseyda
    Crisseyda Posts: 532 Member
    kgeyser wrote: »

    If is was that simple, what's going in in America since 1985? Obesity rates have absolutely sky-rocketed. About 30% of us are obese. Have our eating and movement habits really changed THAT much?

    Yes they have. Here is a study (from a peer reviewed journal, not an opinion piece):
    http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001050

    Here's a summary:
    "Competing theories attempt to explain changes in total energy (TE) intake; however, a rigorous, comprehensive examination of these explanations has not been undertaken. Our objective was to examine the relative contribution of energy density (ED), portion size (PS), and the number of eating/drinking occasions (EOs) to changes in daily TE.

    While all three components have contributed to some extent to 30-y changes in TE, changes in EO and PS have accounted for most of the change. These findings suggest a new focus for efforts to reduce energy imbalances in US adults."


    Basically we are eating more frequently (EO) and in larger portion sizes (PO). Not really a surprise that we have an obesity problem.

    Yes, of course, that's true. Of course we are eating too much to account for our energy expenditure, that the whole point! But the question is "WHY?" Why are we overeating to such a great extent? Why is leptin not doing it's job? The answer is hugely multi-factorial, far more complicated than just "It's your fault you're fat. Stop eating so much and move more."

    If those overweight individuals begin eating below their TDEE, making better food choices, and increasing their activity, do they lose weight? That alone would indicate that the problem is largely one of lifestyle and choices, not a biological one.

    No, it's only illuminates one part of problem--that people are overeating. Even the individuals who manage to buckle down and get some weight off are still far more likely to gain it back than to keep it off... why is that? The problem is far more complicated.

    Industry is doing it's hardest to have us maintain the myth that it's simply a matter of calories in/calories out so that we'll keep buying their processed, sugar-laden products. It's culturally pervasive, and there's no way my words will make a difference to you in one day.

    Here's an example for you:

    Most people think diamonds are valuable, don't they? It's a culturally pervasive myth intentionally and deceitfully propagated by the industry. The facts are out there, but people still hold onto false beliefs. This mass deceit was first devised in 1948, no less, when the extensive diamond mines in Africa were discovered. Yet, even today, I still can't convince my friend to forgo a silly diamond engagement ring and save her fiance some money!

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you-ever-tried-to-sell-a-diamond/304575/

    It's best not to believe things just because you heard it somewhere. Of course, it is easier, and that's the rub.
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    kgeyser wrote: »

    If is was that simple, what's going in in America since 1985? Obesity rates have absolutely sky-rocketed. About 30% of us are obese. Have our eating and movement habits really changed THAT much?

    Yes they have. Here is a study (from a peer reviewed journal, not an opinion piece):
    http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001050

    Here's a summary:
    "Competing theories attempt to explain changes in total energy (TE) intake; however, a rigorous, comprehensive examination of these explanations has not been undertaken. Our objective was to examine the relative contribution of energy density (ED), portion size (PS), and the number of eating/drinking occasions (EOs) to changes in daily TE.

    While all three components have contributed to some extent to 30-y changes in TE, changes in EO and PS have accounted for most of the change. These findings suggest a new focus for efforts to reduce energy imbalances in US adults."


    Basically we are eating more frequently (EO) and in larger portion sizes (PO). Not really a surprise that we have an obesity problem.

    Yes, of course, that's true. Of course we are eating too much to account for our energy expenditure, that the whole point! But the question is "WHY?" Why are we overeating to such a great extent? Why is leptin not doing it's job? The answer is hugely multi-factorial, far more complicated than just "It's your fault you're fat. Stop eating so much and move more."

    If those overweight individuals begin eating below their TDEE, making better food choices, and increasing their activity, do they lose weight? That alone would indicate that the problem is largely one of lifestyle and choices, not a biological one.

    No, it's only illuminates one part of problem--that people are overeating. Even the individuals who manage to buckle down and get some weight off are still far more likely to gain it back than to keep it off... why is that? The problem is far more complicated.

    Industry is doing it's hardest to have us maintain the myth that it's simply a matter of calories in/calories out so that we'll keep buying their processed, sugar-laden products. It's culturally pervasive, and there's no way my words will make a difference to you in one day.

    Here's an example for you:

    Most people think diamonds are valuable, don't they? It's a culturally pervasive myth intentionally and deceitfully propagated by the industry. The facts are out there, but people still hold onto false beliefs. This mass deceit was first devised in 1948, no less, when the extensive diamond mines in Africa were discovered. Yet, even today, I still can't convince my friend to forgo a silly diamond engagement ring and save her fiance some money!

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you-ever-tried-to-sell-a-diamond/304575/

    It's best not to believe things just because you heard it somewhere. Of course, it is easier, and that's the rub.

    They gain the weight back because they go back to their old habits of overeating and moving less. It's really not complicated.

    It really is calories in vs calories out. There are members of this site who have eaten a Paleo diet (read: no processed, sugar laden products) and bulked to increase muscle mass. Because they ate more calories than they burned. Your words aren't going to make a difference to me, because they aren't backed by science.

    And perhaps you should leave your friend alone and let her choose her own engagement ring, seeing as how it is her ring and her relationship, not yours.
  • Crisseyda
    Crisseyda Posts: 532 Member
    edited October 2014
    kgeyser wrote: »
    kgeyser wrote: »

    If is was that simple, what's going in in America since 1985? Obesity rates have absolutely sky-rocketed. About 30% of us are obese. Have our eating and movement habits really changed THAT much?

    Yes they have. Here is a study (from a peer reviewed journal, not an opinion piece):
    http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001050

    Here's a summary:
    "Competing theories attempt to explain changes in total energy (TE) intake; however, a rigorous, comprehensive examination of these explanations has not been undertaken. Our objective was to examine the relative contribution of energy density (ED), portion size (PS), and the number of eating/drinking occasions (EOs) to changes in daily TE.

    While all three components have contributed to some extent to 30-y changes in TE, changes in EO and PS have accounted for most of the change. These findings suggest a new focus for efforts to reduce energy imbalances in US adults."


    Basically we are eating more frequently (EO) and in larger portion sizes (PO). Not really a surprise that we have an obesity problem.

    Yes, of course, that's true. Of course we are eating too much to account for our energy expenditure, that the whole point! But the question is "WHY?" Why are we overeating to such a great extent? Why is leptin not doing it's job? The answer is hugely multi-factorial, far more complicated than just "It's your fault you're fat. Stop eating so much and move more."

    If those overweight individuals begin eating below their TDEE, making better food choices, and increasing their activity, do they lose weight? That alone would indicate that the problem is largely one of lifestyle and choices, not a biological one.

    No, it's only illuminates one part of problem--that people are overeating. Even the individuals who manage to buckle down and get some weight off are still far more likely to gain it back than to keep it off... why is that? The problem is far more complicated.

    Industry is doing it's hardest to have us maintain the myth that it's simply a matter of calories in/calories out so that we'll keep buying their processed, sugar-laden products. It's culturally pervasive, and there's no way my words will make a difference to you in one day.

    Here's an example for you:

    Most people think diamonds are valuable, don't they? It's a culturally pervasive myth intentionally and deceitfully propagated by the industry. The facts are out there, but people still hold onto false beliefs. This mass deceit was first devised in 1948, no less, when the extensive diamond mines in Africa were discovered. Yet, even today, I still can't convince my friend to forgo a silly diamond engagement ring and save her fiance some money!

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you-ever-tried-to-sell-a-diamond/304575/

    It's best not to believe things just because you heard it somewhere. Of course, it is easier, and that's the rub.

    They gain the weight back because they go back to their old habits of overeating and moving less. It's really not complicated.

    It really is calories in vs calories out. There are members of this site who have eaten a Paleo diet (read: no processed, sugar laden products) and bulked to increase muscle mass. Because they ate more calories than they burned. Your words aren't going to make a difference to me, because they aren't backed by science.

    And perhaps you should leave your friend alone and let her choose her own engagement ring, seeing as how it is her ring and her relationship, not yours.

    exactly... "It's really not complicated." I don't pretend to have it figured out--you do. Lucky for me, lots of dedicated scientists and researchers are still at work on understanding this serious health epidemic.
  • Woomytron
    Woomytron Posts: 253 Member
    edited October 2014
    kgeyser wrote: »
    kgeyser wrote: »

    If is was that simple, what's going in in America since 1985? Obesity rates have absolutely sky-rocketed. About 30% of us are obese. Have our eating and movement habits really changed THAT much?

    Yes they have. Here is a study (from a peer reviewed journal, not an opinion piece):
    http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001050

    Here's a summary:
    "Competing theories attempt to explain changes in total energy (TE) intake; however, a rigorous, comprehensive examination of these explanations has not been undertaken. Our objective was to examine the relative contribution of energy density (ED), portion size (PS), and the number of eating/drinking occasions (EOs) to changes in daily TE.

    While all three components have contributed to some extent to 30-y changes in TE, changes in EO and PS have accounted for most of the change. These findings suggest a new focus for efforts to reduce energy imbalances in US adults."


    Basically we are eating more frequently (EO) and in larger portion sizes (PO). Not really a surprise that we have an obesity problem.

    Yes, of course, that's true. Of course we are eating too much to account for our energy expenditure, that the whole point! But the question is "WHY?" Why are we overeating to such a great extent? Why is leptin not doing it's job? The answer is hugely multi-factorial, far more complicated than just "It's your fault you're fat. Stop eating so much and move more."

    If those overweight individuals begin eating below their TDEE, making better food choices, and increasing their activity, do they lose weight? That alone would indicate that the problem is largely one of lifestyle and choices, not a biological one.

    No, it's only illuminates one part of problem--that people are overeating. Even the individuals who manage to buckle down and get some weight off are still far more likely to gain it back than to keep it off... why is that? The problem is far more complicated.

    Industry is doing it's hardest to have us maintain the myth that it's simply a matter of calories in/calories out so that we'll keep buying their processed, sugar-laden products. It's culturally pervasive, and there's no way my words will make a difference to you in one day.

    Here's an example for you:

    Most people think diamonds are valuable, don't they? It's a culturally pervasive myth intentionally and deceitfully propagated by the industry. The facts are out there, but people still hold onto false beliefs. This mass deceit was first devised in 1948, no less, when the extensive diamond mines in Africa were discovered. Yet, even today, I still can't convince my friend to forgo a silly diamond engagement ring and save her fiance some money!

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you-ever-tried-to-sell-a-diamond/304575/

    It's best not to believe things just because you heard it somewhere. Of course, it is easier, and that's the rub.

    They gain the weight back because they go back to their old habits of overeating and moving less. It's really not complicated.

    It really is calories in vs calories out. There are members of this site who have eaten a Paleo diet (read: no processed, sugar laden products) and bulked to increase muscle mass. Because they ate more calories than they burned. Your words aren't going to make a difference to me, because they aren't backed by science.

    And perhaps you should leave your friend alone and let her choose her own engagement ring, seeing as how it is her ring and her relationship, not yours.

    This so much! It's not the industries fault if someone overeats sugary, processed, or any other food that is high in calories. It is as simple as calories in/ calories out, does it mean someone will be healthy if all they eat is chips and drink soda? Probably not. Doesn't mean you couldn't loses weight if you ate those things below what you burn. I feel people that blame companies for their overweight problems because it's easier then admitting that they weren't more careful with what they were eating.
  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,630 Member
    I got lost when I read that our lives haven't changed much since 1985. We can probably come up with hundreds of variables impacting the weight loss equation but the ones that has the strongest correlation are calorie deficits and active movement.

    For practical purposes, focus on the 80% rule, if it does not work there, then each person has to dig a little deeper
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    kgeyser wrote: »
    kgeyser wrote: »

    If is was that simple, what's going in in America since 1985? Obesity rates have absolutely sky-rocketed. About 30% of us are obese. Have our eating and movement habits really changed THAT much?

    Yes they have. Here is a study (from a peer reviewed journal, not an opinion piece):
    http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001050

    Here's a summary:
    "Competing theories attempt to explain changes in total energy (TE) intake; however, a rigorous, comprehensive examination of these explanations has not been undertaken. Our objective was to examine the relative contribution of energy density (ED), portion size (PS), and the number of eating/drinking occasions (EOs) to changes in daily TE.

    While all three components have contributed to some extent to 30-y changes in TE, changes in EO and PS have accounted for most of the change. These findings suggest a new focus for efforts to reduce energy imbalances in US adults."


    Basically we are eating more frequently (EO) and in larger portion sizes (PO). Not really a surprise that we have an obesity problem.

    Yes, of course, that's true. Of course we are eating too much to account for our energy expenditure, that the whole point! But the question is "WHY?" Why are we overeating to such a great extent? Why is leptin not doing it's job? The answer is hugely multi-factorial, far more complicated than just "It's your fault you're fat. Stop eating so much and move more."

    If those overweight individuals begin eating below their TDEE, making better food choices, and increasing their activity, do they lose weight? That alone would indicate that the problem is largely one of lifestyle and choices, not a biological one.

    No, it's only illuminates one part of problem--that people are overeating. Even the individuals who manage to buckle down and get some weight off are still far more likely to gain it back than to keep it off... why is that? The problem is far more complicated.

    Industry is doing it's hardest to have us maintain the myth that it's simply a matter of calories in/calories out so that we'll keep buying their processed, sugar-laden products. It's culturally pervasive, and there's no way my words will make a difference to you in one day.

    Here's an example for you:

    Most people think diamonds are valuable, don't they? It's a culturally pervasive myth intentionally and deceitfully propagated by the industry. The facts are out there, but people still hold onto false beliefs. This mass deceit was first devised in 1948, no less, when the extensive diamond mines in Africa were discovered. Yet, even today, I still can't convince my friend to forgo a silly diamond engagement ring and save her fiance some money!

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you-ever-tried-to-sell-a-diamond/304575/

    It's best not to believe things just because you heard it somewhere. Of course, it is easier, and that's the rub.

    They gain the weight back because they go back to their old habits of overeating and moving less. It's really not complicated.

    It really is calories in vs calories out. There are members of this site who have eaten a Paleo diet (read: no processed, sugar laden products) and bulked to increase muscle mass. Because they ate more calories than they burned. Your words aren't going to make a difference to me, because they aren't backed by science.

    And perhaps you should leave your friend alone and let her choose her own engagement ring, seeing as how it is her ring and her relationship, not yours.

    exactly... "It's really not complicated." I don't pretend to have it figured out--you do. Lucky for me, lots of dedicated scientists and researchers are still at work on understanding this serious health epidemic.

    I'm not pretending.

  • ksy1969
    ksy1969 Posts: 700 Member
    OP - sorry your thread got hijacked.

    My opinion, I am 45 now and really wish I would have had these people giving me such great advice.

    You are at the perfect age to put on muscle mass that will benefit you the rest of your life. A few years of having some extra fat is not going to hurt you as you work on creating a good muscle base.

    Start a good program like Strong Lifts 5 x 5, Starting Strength, or Wendlers 5/3/1. I am currently doing 5/3/1 and having a lot of success and that is while eating at a deficit. You can eat at maintenance or a little above and let the muscle start piling on. Unless you have a medical issue, it is all pretty straight forward.

    Some posters who shall not be named are trying to over complicate it. Stick to the basics, there is no magic to this.

  • taylorblade
    taylorblade Posts: 261 Member
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    Here is some images of me forgive me for posting selfies lol but this is my belly fat percent and how much muscle I have. But can somebody please tell me about how much belly % fat does it look like I have.

    OP. You are a good looking young man. Nice muscle development in your chest, shoulders and arms. Based on your pictures I'd advise you to continue eating about 3000 calories (which seems to be maintenance for you), aim for 130-150 grams of protein per day and get a solid lifting program (Starting Strength, Stronglifts 5x5 for examples). Given that you are a 18 year old man who is pretty new to lifting, you should be able to accomplish a "body re-composition" easier than most. I know you have more fat than you want right now, and you don't want to do a bulk, so re-comp is what you want.

    What is it about lifting that you do not like?[/quote
    Because see the thing about it is I never seem to progress in weight lifting. Also people say when you stop lifting weights your muscles begin to sag on you and I don't wont that. I wont to have a perfect body for the rest of my life.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
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    Here is some images of me forgive me for posting selfies lol but this is my belly fat percent and how much muscle I have. But can somebody please tell me about how much belly % fat does it look like I have.

    OP. You are a good looking young man. Nice muscle development in your chest, shoulders and arms. Based on your pictures I'd advise you to continue eating about 3000 calories (which seems to be maintenance for you), aim for 130-150 grams of protein per day and get a solid lifting program (Starting Strength, Stronglifts 5x5 for examples). Given that you are a 18 year old man who is pretty new to lifting, you should be able to accomplish a "body re-composition" easier than most. I know you have more fat than you want right now, and you don't want to do a bulk, so re-comp is what you want.

    What is it about lifting that you do not like?
    Because see the thing about it is I never seem to progress in weight lifting. Also people say when you stop lifting weights your muscles begin to sag on you and I don't wont that. I wont to have a perfect body for the rest of my life.

    Well dear, you are NOT going to have the perfect body for the rest of your life. No one is perfect, plus we all age. BUT no, your muscles will not "sag" if you stop lifting weights. However, if you really enjoy it, why stop? You could lift weights your entire life. Maintain muscle, strength, bone density, healthy, bad-*kitten*-ness, be able to eat more, for the rest of your life? Sounds good to me.

    What do you mean by progress? Increase weights, or improve your body composition? I'm guessing you didn't give yourself enough time to do either (since you are 18 and well, how much time could your really give it since you've only been alive 18 years?). It could take you a year to get the progress you want. If you do Starting Strength or Stronglifts you increase weight pretty much every time, so you WILL progress with weight and maybe, just getting stronger will be motivation to stick with it and will help you to not focus so much on actual appearance (but seriously, you already look good).
  • MissJay75
    MissJay75 Posts: 768 Member
    I can't tell from your pictures, but is it possible some of what you are calling 'belly fat' is just loose skin from when you were 60+ pounds heavier?
  • taylorblade
    taylorblade Posts: 261 Member
    p4l3vccqkhjy.jpg
    62mrjacoicrp.jpg
    9cyyviromdp6.jpg
    Here is some images of me forgive me for posting selfies lol but this is my belly fat percent and how much muscle I have. But can somebody please tell me about how much belly % fat does it look like I have.
    Well... Both when it comes to progress. But i mean i enjoy working out its apart of my lifestyle now. Plus im a kickboxer.
    OP. You are a good looking young man. Nice muscle development in your chest, shoulders and arms. Based on your pictures I'd advise you to continue eating about 3000 calories (which seems to be maintenance for you), aim for 130-150 grams of protein per day and get a solid lifting program (Starting Strength, Stronglifts 5x5 for examples). Given that you are a 18 year old man who is pretty new to lifting, you should be able to accomplish a "body re-composition" easier than most. I know you have more fat than you want right now, and you don't want to do a bulk, so re-comp is what you want.

    What is it about lifting that you do not like?
    Because see the thing about it is I never seem to progress in weight lifting. Also people say when you stop lifting weights your muscles begin to sag on you and I don't wont that. I wont to have a perfect body for the rest of my life.

    Well dear, you are NOT going to have the perfect body for the rest of your life. No one is perfect, plus we all age. BUT no, your muscles will not "sag" if you stop lifting weights. However, if you really enjoy it, why stop? You could lift weights your entire life. Maintain muscle, strength, bone density, healthy, bad-*kitten*-ness, be able to eat more, for the rest of your life? Sounds good to me.

    What do you mean by progress? Increase weights, or improve your body composition? I'm guessing you didn't give yourself enough time to do either (since you are 18 and well, how much time could your really give it since you've only been alive 18 years?). It could take you a year to get the progress you want. If you do Starting Strength or Stronglifts you increase weight pretty much every time, so you WILL progress with weight and maybe, just getting stronger will be motivation to stick with it and will help you to not focus so much on actual appearance (but seriously, you already look good).

  • taylorblade
    taylorblade Posts: 261 Member
    MissJay75 wrote: »
    I can't tell from your pictures, but is it possible some of what you are calling 'belly fat' is just loose skin from when you were 60+ pounds heavier?

    No because loose skin would be lose. When i sit down my belly is jiggly. Also my stomach isnt long yet.
  • taylorblade
    taylorblade Posts: 261 Member
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    p4l3vccqkhjy.jpg
    62mrjacoicrp.jpg
    9cyyviromdp6.jpg
    Here is some images of me forgive me for posting selfies lol but this is my belly fat percent and how much muscle I have. But can somebody please tell me about how much belly % fat does it look like I have.
    Well... Both when it comes to progress. But i mean i enjoy working out its apart of my lifestyle now. Plus im a kickboxer.
    OP. You are a good looking young man. Nice muscle development in your chest, shoulders and arms. Based on your pictures I'd advise you to continue eating about 3000 calories (which seems to be maintenance for you), aim for 130-150 grams of protein per day and get a solid lifting program (Starting Strength, Stronglifts 5x5 for examples). Given that you are a 18 year old man who is pretty new to lifting, you should be able to accomplish a "body re-composition" easier than most. I know you have more fat than you want right now, and you don't want to do a bulk, so re-comp is what you want.

    What is it about lifting that you do not like?
    Because see the thing about it is I never seem to progress in weight lifting. Also people say when you stop lifting weights your muscles begin to sag on you and I don't wont that. I wont to have a perfect body for the rest of my life.

    Well dear, you are NOT going to have the perfect body for the rest of your life. No one is perfect, plus we all age. BUT no, your muscles will not "sag" if you stop lifting weights. However, if you really enjoy it, why stop? You could lift weights your entire life. Maintain muscle, strength, bone density, healthy, bad-*kitten*-ness, be able to eat more, for the rest of your life? Sounds good to me.

    What do you mean by progress? Increase weights, or improve your body composition? I'm guessing you didn't give yourself enough time to do either (since you are 18 and well, how much time could your really give it since you've only been alive 18 years?). It could take you a year to get the progress you want. If you do Starting Strength or Stronglifts you increase weight pretty much every time, so you WILL progress with weight and maybe, just getting stronger will be motivation to stick with it and will help you to not focus so much on actual appearance (but seriously, you already look good).
    See this is what i use to look like.
  • taylorblade
    taylorblade Posts: 261 Member
    Hey i have another question everybody? Can i go in head in do a refeed? Because when i started cutting and working out i have been keeping my carbs to 50 to 100g carbs a day for 8 to 10 months straight. Maybe thats why my fat loss halted. Because people say when you keep cutting for a prolonged period of time especially on carbs. Your leptin will drop and your metabolism will decrease. That might explain why i have so much massive cravings for carbs and fats and when i say i have massive cravings i mean i just want to eat everything in sight whether its junk food or clean food i just want to eat everything insight. Like..... LITTERALLY EVERYTHING!!! I mean its like this if i eat one piece of whole wheat bread... Then all of a sudden i will stuff my face with 3 to 4 more pieces and then i will eat oatmeal or kashi go lean cereal. And see the thing about it is i have alot of will power better then anybody else and when i first started cutting and working out and doing kickboxing i didnt have no problems. I could stop eating when im full or before im full. I would enjoy going to kickboxing and working out (which i still do) but now ever since i been working out so much and cutting so much... Its like my body is making me feel less motivated. Because now i always feel tired and stressed and hungry... But see i still keep pushing through all of that and i keep cutting and working out (stressing my body even more knowing i should stop) But see thats the thing about my mentality i dont need people to push me or motivate me or give me will power i naturally have that installed in me. Once i get started on something i just cant stop... I JUST DONT WANT TO STOP EITHER!!! I will keep going even if it kills me. Everybody keep saying taylor how do you do it??? Whats driving you to have such a mentality??? Well see im just like my father we have so much will power and determination. What drives me is my confidence i believe what ever i do in life i have to be confident. See i base my life off of confidence. Not anything else just confidence. Thats what makes me who i am. My determination to be confident at everything. I dont want to be better then no body or prove my self to anybody. Anything i do in my life i want to prove it to myself thats it ONLY ME!!!! lol but please forgive me with all this ranting i just wanted to give everybody a brief back ground about me.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    I knew it authority nutrition is inaccurate
    Because everytime I look at that site for tips they always switch it up. But anyway tell me about my pics i just posted so i can get a good idea what i must do? What does my bf % look like because im not leaned yet and another thing i want to ask how do i get small lean thighs? Because i wouldnt look right if you have a lean stomach but big thighs.

    Taylor, if you go over to Eat, Train, Progress and ask your questions, you'll get the best help.

    You're at a good weight now. Lift heavy things. Eat at maintenance. You can get specific advice on macro composition and specific lifting routines over on the group.

  • slaite1
    slaite1 Posts: 1,307 Member
    edited May 2015
    Hey i have another question everybody? Can i go in head in do a refeed? Because when i started cutting and working out i have been keeping my carbs to 50 to 100g carbs a day for 8 to 10 months straight. Maybe thats why my fat loss halted. Because people say when you keep cutting for a prolonged period of time especially on carbs. Your leptin will drop and your metabolism will decrease. That might explain why i have so much massive cravings for carbs and fats and when i say i have massive cravings i mean i just want to eat everything in sight whether its junk food or clean food i just want to eat everything insight. Like..... LITTERALLY EVERYTHING!!! I mean its like this if i eat one piece of whole wheat bread... Then all of a sudden i will stuff my face with 3 to 4 more pieces and then i will eat oatmeal or kashi go lean cereal. And see the thing about it is i have alot of will power better then anybody else and when i first started cutting and working out and doing kickboxing i didnt have no problems. I could stop eating when im full or before im full. I would enjoy going to kickboxing and working out (which i still do) but now ever since i been working out so much and cutting so much... Its like my body is making me feel less motivated. Because now i always feel tired and stressed and hungry...


    Read the stickies. I've been in this exact position-as have many of us on here. Eating "clean" only to binge and then go up and down in weight. You have a high maintenance-no reason you are not enjoying your food. Maybe look up IIFYM. Losing weight does not have to be this way.

    Your carbs are way too low for an active teenager. Again, read the stickies here or go to a reputable site like "eat right.org" and do some solid research. Ignore the arguments on this thread.

    You look amazing! You are judging yourself much harsher than anyone else would. You look like a normal, fit kid. You did a lot right-getting active,'playing with your calories and not starving, recognizing that you want to binge. Take the next step. Add some variety to your diet. Don't take two weeks off and binge; just keep your calories where they are but eat whatever you want. Look up IIFYM, or just do a search here, and learn to enjoy yourself again. You look good. Your progress is amazing. Push aside the BS and keep going!
  • rdfaye
    rdfaye Posts: 39 Member
    OP, didn't read all the replies, so sorry if I repeat. First, you are a good looking young man. And you have done a great job so far. Keep doing what you are doing, and you will get there.

    Second, some of those cravings are because you are a teenager. You may still be growing. Men can still put on height until around 20 or so. My kid is 19 and is 6'3” and 130 lbs. NOT ANOREXIC PEOPLE!. Built like every male in my family ever. And as to cravings, he can empty half my pantry in an evening and eat an entire pizza by himself. He walks a lot, but doesn't lift. When he has lifted, he does not get the muscle and definition you have. Everyone is different, but you just need to give yourself time for the belly to come off. You are looking very healthy, so keep!it up.
  • rocknlotsofrolls
    rocknlotsofrolls Posts: 418 Member
    I think the fat guy bulk look you are talking about may be from steroid use. I don't know, just thinking.
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