Every time I work out I hurt myself...help please
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theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
So you don't just lack self discipline in the weight room as evident here.
No amount of lessons from a trainer will help until you learn to operate within limits unless you plan on having somebody there to restrain you every time you choose to go into "beast mode".
The amount of smugness on this site, I always forget about it. Haha. Go run and preach somewhere else.
I post saying "I don't know proper form"
Your response
"Learn proper form"
Genius. Why aren't you running the country?!?!?!
You didn't make that quote in your OP. Now you're lying to go with your childish attacks.
I'm lying? LOL. I think everybody here can read and understand that's exactly what I've said. And unlike you, they offered concrete steps on HOW to get proper form. You're pathetic man. Go somewhere else with your attitude.
More childish name calling and a lack of understanding how quotation marks work .. yet you call me pathetic. I'm not the one with the lack of discipline resulting in repeated injuries ... you are.
Uh oh, he's calling out my grammar. Big tough guy.
More name calling from you. It's all you have.
You've admitted you cannot learn from videos ... yet you continue to seek more of that type of lesson. You lack the discipline to stop before things go wrong. You lack the ability to pay attention during your workouts ... blaming a "zone" rather than your attentiveness while conducting an activity that can, and has, led to injury.
When you rant in response ... which I fully expect you to do ... try to do so based on the points I've highlighted.-2 -
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Slow and steady wins the race. I know what you mean about getting into beast mode when you workout. Because you get into that zone and you're just focused. However, getting injured makes it so it takes longer for you to regain what you did. Sounds like you're familiar with your body and the kinds of movements/pressure it takes to injure yourself. I really like the idea of getting a personal trainer who can work with you on those things.0
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UltimateRBF wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
So you don't just lack self discipline in the weight room as evident here.
No amount of lessons from a trainer will help until you learn to operate within limits unless you plan on having somebody there to restrain you every time you choose to go into "beast mode".
The amount of smugness on this site, I always forget about it. Haha. Go run and preach somewhere else.
I post saying "I don't know proper form"
Your response
"Learn proper form"
Genius. Why aren't you running the country?!?!?!
It's generally considered poor etiquette to ask for advice and then insult the people who give you advice.
This would be true if the person had actually offered real advice, rather than suggesting vague, condescending generalities that OP obviously already knew.0 -
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theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
So you don't just lack self discipline in the weight room as evident here.
No amount of lessons from a trainer will help until you learn to operate within limits unless you plan on having somebody there to restrain you every time you choose to go into "beast mode".
The amount of smugness on this site, I always forget about it. Haha. Go run and preach somewhere else.
I post saying "I don't know proper form"
Your response
"Learn proper form"
Genius. Why aren't you running the country?!?!?!
It just seems like you don't like the obvious answers to your problem. Slow your roll, and learn to do it properly. It's not smug, it's blunt and honest. You're hurting yourself because as you say you go into "beast mode" and overdo it. A trainer is likely going to start you off low and slow, which you could do on your own (and will need to learn to do anyhow).0 -
UltimateRBF wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
So you don't just lack self discipline in the weight room as evident here.
No amount of lessons from a trainer will help until you learn to operate within limits unless you plan on having somebody there to restrain you every time you choose to go into "beast mode".
The amount of smugness on this site, I always forget about it. Haha. Go run and preach somewhere else.
I post saying "I don't know proper form"
Your response
"Learn proper form"
Genius. Why aren't you running the country?!?!?!
It's generally considered poor etiquette to ask for advice and then insult the people who give you advice.
This would be true if the person had actually offered real advice, rather than suggesting vague, condescending generalities that OP obviously already knew.
Maybe so..although I'm not sure a response of No *kitten* Sherlock is ever really appropriate, considering I personally don't really know what OP wants people to tell her to do.
Probably looking for some advice on classes (preferably cheaper than a personal trainer) or some sort of environment that would help her pay attention to form.
OP, see if you can find a dedicated powerlifting gym with good members who will coach you for a reasonable fee. Seems like it'd be your thing, lifting as heavy as you can, and from the PL gyms I've been to there's a genuine sense of camaraderie & helpfulness if you come in with a decent amount of deference & willingness to learn.0 -
If I was you, I would.
1. Get a trainer. I know it's expensive but if you find it hard to learn from videos I think it'd save you stress, time and pain in the future.
2. Take your chiro's advice about things to avoid, stretches etc., or if you have reason to believe he's not giving good advice, find a better one.
3. Force yourself to take it slow. I understand wanting to give it your all, and I get that you always want to be moving due to a history of depression, but you could seriously hurt yourself and that could be it for you in terms of strenuous, formal, progressive training.
It takes dedication to give it your all, sure, but it also takes dedication to be meticulous, structured, and above all, careful in terms of how you approach your training and build up to things gradually. There are no prizes for going balls to the wall and risking injury. Trying to do too much too soon is pretty foolish for someone in the peak of physical health, and without wanting to be insensitive, it sounds like you have a host of back issues. Take it slow, use a trainer to learn correct form, and give your body adequate recovery time, and you'll do great.0 -
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Well, just because you work on a farm, doesn't mean your body will be capable of certain exercises... Form and technique is everything, so that's the first thing to look at..0
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AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
So you don't just lack self discipline in the weight room as evident here.
No amount of lessons from a trainer will help until you learn to operate within limits unless you plan on having somebody there to restrain you every time you choose to go into "beast mode".
The amount of smugness on this site, I always forget about it. Haha. Go run and preach somewhere else.
I post saying "I don't know proper form"
Your response
"Learn proper form"
Genius. Why aren't you running the country?!?!?!
It's generally considered poor etiquette to ask for advice and then insult the people who give you advice.
This would be true if the person had actually offered real advice, rather than suggesting vague, condescending generalities that OP obviously already knew.
So, according to you, she already knows the answer and is willfully acting against that knowledge?0 -
In a manner of speaking. More like I think she could re-evaluate her priorities - I don't think OP lacks self discipline, I just think it's misdirected at present.0 -
weavingtheweb wrote: »No it's a book. I bought the Kindle edition on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Strong-Curves-Womans-Building-Better/dp/1936608642
However, if you search YT for 'strong curves workout' you'll find lots of videos
Thanks a ton!!0 -
noclady1995 wrote: »Slow and steady wins the race. I know what you mean about getting into beast mode when you workout. Because you get into that zone and you're just focused. However, getting injured makes it so it takes longer for you to regain what you did. Sounds like you're familiar with your body and the kinds of movements/pressure it takes to injure yourself. I really like the idea of getting a personal trainer who can work with you on those things.
Thank you for understanding
You're absolutely right. The first time I got injured I thought it was a fluke, but it's happened three separate times (and three different body parts haha! I am a mess) so yes. It's my weak body trying to do too much. I really think a personal trainer would be the MOST beneficial thing right now, it's just also the most expensive. But I'm taking this to heart. Thank you again. 0 -
If I was you, I would.
1. Get a trainer. I know it's expensive but if you find it hard to learn from videos I think it'd save you stress, time and pain in the future.
2. Take your chiro's advice about things to avoid, stretches etc., or if you have reason to believe he's not giving good advice, find a better one.
3. Force yourself to take it slow. I understand wanting to give it your all, and I get that you always want to be moving due to a history of depression, but you could seriously hurt yourself and that could be it for you in terms of strenuous, formal, progressive training.
It takes dedication to give it your all, sure, but it also takes dedication to be meticulous, structured, and above all, careful in terms of how you approach your training and build up to things gradually. There are no prizes for going balls to the wall and risking injury. Trying to do too much too soon is pretty foolish for someone in the peak of physical health, and without wanting to be insensitive, it sounds like you have a host of back issues. Take it slow, use a trainer to learn correct form, and give your body adequate recovery time, and you'll do great.
Thank you so much for this. I am in agreement with all of those who mentioned a trainer. I apparently don't have what it takes at this point to understand the actual mechanics of HOW I'm messing it up. And a trainer would make that variable disappear completely, and save me a lot of injury it sounds like.
You're absolutely right...I'm in the wrong mindset, what saved me from depression was just saying I'M NOT DOING THIS ANYMORE and running wild, like I say, I am a biker and I can go hundreds of miles without ever pausing for breath...but the realm of strength training is a different monster for me. Unfortunately I've learned that I love it as well, and I'm trying the same approach as ..well..everything else I do, someone else said "balls to the wall" and that's kind of me about everything.
Thank you for everything you've said. I do appreciate it.0 -
And Brianperkins all it took was me looking at your hyperdefensive bio to see that you're not here to help others, you're here to be a know it all and attempt to make others feel stupid. And call out their grammar, lol. Unfortunately you missed the point; I asked for advice BECAUSE I am not sure what to do. I am not here trying to be a know it all. But I'm also not talking in a demeaning tone to total strangers while hiding behind a photo of a bicycle.
AS far as me saying 'no *kitten* sherlock', I said I was a dimwit at weights/training. That doesn't mean I'm a doormat. If someone disrespects me I am pretty vocal about it.0 -
I'd also suggest sticking with body weight exercises until you're able to get some help on your form. Harder to hurt yourself.0
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Now you're attacking my choice of profile pic. I am here to help those who can be honest with themselves. Calling my profile "hyperdefensive" made me laugh at the lunacy of your assertion. All of the disrespect came from you, starting with your "sherlock" post. You followed that by claiming quotes that you didn't make ... it wasn't an attack on your grammar. You can't counter my observations based on fact, so you lash out. Got it.
As I said earlier ...
Rather than address that, you make personal attacks. I won't lower myself to your level.You've admitted you cannot learn from videos ... yet you continue to seek more of that type of lesson. You lack the discipline to stop before things go wrong. You lack the ability to pay attention during your workouts ... blaming a "zone" rather than your attentiveness while conducting an activity that can, and has, led to injury.0 -
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UltimateRBF wrote: »OP accuses responder of being hyperdefensive...by lashing out. Oh the irony.
Nah, not lashing out. Just not being a doormat. Do you unpleasant people just go around every thread like this?0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »OP accuses responder of being hyperdefensive...by lashing out. Oh the irony.
Nah, not lashing out. Just not being a doormat. Do you unpleasant people just go around every thread like this?
You are lashing out and started with your first reply in this thread. Your doormat defense doesn't hold up if looked at logically or based on your comments. The ranting reply that has nothing do do with the observations is exactly what I predicted you would do ... thanks for proving me correct about you.
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theutahdesertfox wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »OP accuses responder of being hyperdefensive...by lashing out. Oh the irony.
Nah, not lashing out. Just not being a doormat. Do you unpleasant people just go around every thread like this?
NOOOOOOBODY will mistake you for being a doormat for focusing on what you came here to do. Another free lesson from MyFitnessPal
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theutahdesertfox wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »OP accuses responder of being hyperdefensive...by lashing out. Oh the irony.
Nah, not lashing out. Just not being a doormat. Do you unpleasant people just go around every thread like this?
NOOOOOOBODY will mistake you for being a doormat for focusing on what you came here to do. Another free lesson from MyFitnessPal
Haha! True that.0 -
AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
So you don't just lack self discipline in the weight room as evident here.
No amount of lessons from a trainer will help until you learn to operate within limits unless you plan on having somebody there to restrain you every time you choose to go into "beast mode".
The amount of smugness on this site, I always forget about it. Haha. Go run and preach somewhere else.
I post saying "I don't know proper form"
Your response
"Learn proper form"
Genius. Why aren't you running the country?!?!?!
It's generally considered poor etiquette to ask for advice and then insult the people who give you advice.
This would be true if the person had actually offered real advice, rather than suggesting vague, condescending generalities that OP obviously already knew.
Thank you. I appreciate it. I know I'm not the only one who could read his comments that way.0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
So you don't just lack self discipline in the weight room as evident here.
No amount of lessons from a trainer will help until you learn to operate within limits unless you plan on having somebody there to restrain you every time you choose to go into "beast mode".
The amount of smugness on this site, I always forget about it. Haha. Go run and preach somewhere else.
I post saying "I don't know proper form"
Your response
"Learn proper form"
Genius. Why aren't you running the country?!?!?!
It's generally considered poor etiquette to ask for advice and then insult the people who give you advice.
This would be true if the person had actually offered real advice, rather than suggesting vague, condescending generalities that OP obviously already knew.
Thank you. I appreciate it. I know I'm not the only one who could read his comments that way.
Instead of imagining the tone, why not just focus on the thing being said. Regardless if his advice was detailed enough or "simple", what he said on his first post still rings true. If you took it as condescending, etc - that's on you to take it that way and get upset. So his advice was basic, oh well. Let it go. At least it was still valid/good advice. That's what you were asking for, right?
You talk about "unpleasant people" here, but the only person that really fit that description right at the start was you.0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
So you don't just lack self discipline in the weight room as evident here.
No amount of lessons from a trainer will help until you learn to operate within limits unless you plan on having somebody there to restrain you every time you choose to go into "beast mode".
The amount of smugness on this site, I always forget about it. Haha. Go run and preach somewhere else.
I post saying "I don't know proper form"
Your response
"Learn proper form"
Genius. Why aren't you running the country?!?!?!
It's generally considered poor etiquette to ask for advice and then insult the people who give you advice.
This would be true if the person had actually offered real advice, rather than suggesting vague, condescending generalities that OP obviously already knew.
Thank you. I appreciate it. I know I'm not the only one who could read his comments that way.
Instead of imagining the tone, why not just focus on the thing being said. Regardless if his advice was detailed enough or "simple", what he said on his first post still rings true. If you took it as condescending, etc - that's on you to take it that way and get upset. So his advice was basic, oh well. Let it go. At least it was still valid/good advice. That's what you were asking for, right?
You talk about "unpleasant people" here, but the only person that really fit that description right at the start was you.
Butthurt is real around here.
Thank you to all of you who have shown support and given AWESOME advice!!0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
I think this is actually an appropriate answer to your issue.
Videos aren't doing it for you to learn proper form- by watching. Have you videoed YOURSELF to spot check?
Do you practice with just the bar?
Are you on an actual program?
It sounds flat out like you're over doing it and don't have any experience to be doing it much less "over doing it"
so slow down- get on a beginner program with some educational material.
new rules of lifting
strong curves
starting strength
strong lifts.
watch the "so you think you can squat/deadlift/bench" videos.
video yourself while your practicing (I try to shoot a video at least once a week during one of my 3 lifting days)
Learn to be patient. Trust the training- don't always trust your body saying "oh I could totally do more" if you're on a program- do the program.
If you can hire a trainer do so. But really all these things you can learn on your own if you so chose.
I also think a visit to your general practitioner to get a referral to a specialist in terms of sports medicine would behoove you.0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Learn proper form ... learn self discipline ... combine the two.
No *kitten*, sherlock....
Ok, really?
You say that you hurt yourself and want advice. This is pretty damn good advice.0 -
theutahdesertfox wrote: »If you have a history of back problems, I'd recommend you see your doctor and maybe get a physio referral. They can advise you on stretches and exercises that can help. At least that might help whilst you save up for a personal training session
The worst thing for you to do is go adding injury to your existing problems
Very true. My chiro has given me exercises and stretches to do in the past, but he's also pretty irritated at me because I don't like any of the advice he gives--running barefoot, not using the elliptical (something about it's an unnatural gait) my mindset has always been to just get up and do SOMETHING because for years I suffered really intense chronic depression. If I'm out and moving, then I feel like a different person. But apparently I don't move correctly :P
Run away from your chiro. Chiropractors aren't doctors, they're a step above a licensed masseuse. It's even a shame health insurance covers them.
Since you're injuring often, firstly, get a referral to a physical therapist. It's possible you have some muscular/skeletal issues causing that above and beyond "beast mode".
Newbies, while prone to hurting themselves, don't usually do so. The pain hits at the right spot, and they stop and don't do it again. A physical therapist can rule out a structural issue.
Then, I'd suggest building a base level of fitness: Doing some treadmill/elliptical stuff to get your cardio health at a good level. For strength training, start on plyometric exercises. It's very difficult to injure yourself using your own body weight. Once you get the base (After about a month or so), then start into free weights and high intensity cardio.0
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