High fat and low carbs = weight loss?
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I read online that eating I diet high in fat and low in carbs puts your body in something called ketosis which makes you burn fat more efficiently. Is this true?
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I read online that eating I diet high in fat and low in carbs puts your body in something called ketosis which makes you burn fat more efficiently. Is this true?
According to many people, it helps them lose weight. According to others, the trick is to eat pretty much only carbs and never touch fat. According to some, the answer is to become a vegetarian. Or to eat fruit only. Or to never again touch a fruit. Or to eat for a few hours per day only. Or a few days per week. Or to eat all the protein supplements you can get. You see where this is going, right
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Eating in a calorie deficit equals weight loss. How you get there is your decision, but it only matters that you eat less than you burn.0
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It depends on your metabolism, although it's probably not healthy to stay in ketosis. For me, the whole calorie burn theory does not work. Why? I have Insulin Resistence and so my body does not process food properly. Calories from carbs do not act the same in my body as a calorie in fat or protein. Watching carbs is a much bigger key than counting calories, watching fat, or exercising.
There are loads of metabolic disorders, so don't be discouraged by low calorie not working, if that is behind you asking. It's very confusing to have that bandied about as fact when it just doesn't work for all. Bodies are so complex and it often is not that simple. In fact, it is never that simple due to needing various nutrients to process foods properly, but for some that gets them close enough bc it increases their nutrients due to the lower calorie items generally being more nutrient dense.0 -
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As someone who ate a SAD and barely got any results, low carb definitely worked for me, and is still working. HOWEVER, you also need to eat at a deficit. Low carb helps you keep a deficit through controlling your macros better.0
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I don't believe in low carb per se, but I have found that getting most carbs from fresh fruits and vegetables and reducing my grain-based carbs works for me. I have never bought into the whole ketosis thing. Works for some people, though.0
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I don't believe in low carb per se, but I have found that getting most carbs from fresh fruits and vegetables and reducing my grain-based carbs works for me. I have never bought into the whole ketosis thing. Works for some people, though.
Do you believe in gravity? Ketosis is basic science, and you, personally, experience it every night while you're asleep. The only difference between you and people on keto is they manage what they eat to maintain that state of ketosis 24/7 instead of only while they're asleep.0 -
I read online that eating I diet high in fat and low in carbs puts your body in something called ketosis which makes you burn fat more efficiently. Is this true?
According to many people, it helps them lose weight. According to others, the trick is to eat pretty much only carbs and never touch fat. According to some, the answer is to become a vegetarian. Or to eat fruit only. Or to never again touch a fruit. Or to eat for a few hours per day only. Or a few days per week. Or to eat all the protein supplements you can get. You see where this is going, right
haha, funny response but unfortunately true...0 -
Its true, but its very complicated.. You have to study up and be a know it all before that diet becomes a good idea. It takes precision and some time before you're body even adapts to ketosis and carbs can easily throw your body out of ketosis immediately. I watched a vlog by a famous professional Trainor talk about his experience training a pro female bikini class competitor who was using a ketogenic diet to shred the last possible bit of weight and during her training she started to bloat and wrecked her progress for a short time just from the effects of adding BCAAs to her supps!
Anyways this diet is an advanced technique best suited for those who know that they do well cutting without carbs and want to take a good body to an elite level. *Most of all* people on this site crave ignorant arguments so above all dont start this kind of diet based on advise from here! Google it and also youtube will have some useful vlogs by individuals who have documented their process over time. I may go keto for a short while after my competition next month, but its not a light decision. Gooduck!0 -
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Be careful, I ended in hospital with strokelike symptoms when on an almost nocarb diet. Very rapid weight (and hair) loss, but I missed a few key nutrients as well. Do not do that without doctor's advice!0
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The weight loss due to low carb intake is mainly water weight, what really matters is calories in, calories out.
Eat nutrient dense foods and other foods that you like, stay in a caloric deficit, and you will lose weight.0 -
My body says it likes a balanced diet and exercise0
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I read online that eating I diet high in fat and low in carbs puts your body in something called ketosis which makes you burn fat more efficiently. Is this true?
I don't know about all that. But I am in fact eating high fat (40-50%), low carb (<15% net carbs), high fiber (LOTS of veggies) and high protein (35%) diet. And my fat loss has been awesome!
I will continue to eat this way for a little while longer, as I feel perfectly comfortable doing it.
I am eating this way to bring balance to my body, I don't know what are the goals of articles you were reading. I feel this is a sustainable way to eat, I could probably continue this manner of eating for a long time.
I should add that eating this way has completely eliminated my cravings and mood issues associated with dieting. It wasn't just *any* calories that allowed me to successfully diet, but rather selected foods that supported my efforts to change my body composition.0 -
I've used low carb diets for years and always seen results where as just calorie counting has never worked because my body quickly adjusts my metabolism to hold my weight..
..as far as weight/bloat when a person stops ketogenic dieting it is due to the fact that the body retains water when using carbs as fuel. Once the carbs/glucose is no longer available this body releases the stored fluid (thus causing the drastic weight loss and the benefit to getting that ripped fit).. The down side is the minute you eat too many carbs your body says 'hold water'.. Which is the concept behind super models talking about carb face and being bloated. And also the warning that as soon as you go off the diet you gain the weight back.. You do gain the water but actual fat is put on by calories in!!!0 -
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FreshStartForMyself wrote: »The weight loss due to low carb intake is mainly water weight, what really matters is calories in, calories out.
Eat nutrient dense foods and other foods that you like, stay in a caloric deficit, and you will lose weight.
Ahh, not quite.
True that what matters is calories in, calories out.
Untrue that weight loss on low carb is mainly water weight. In the initial week it is mainly water weight much like other diets. You lose more water weight on low carb because there is more glycogen storage lost. However after the glycogen storage is depleted the weight loss is like any other program. If you use low carb to gain a deficit you get weight loss.
Please stop sharing information that is inaccurate. Next you will say that the moment you eat carbs again all the weight will come springing back. Also not true. You will gain a few pounds when the glycogen storage is replenished, but other than that weight will only be gained if you eat a surplus of calories.
I did not mean that the weight you lose on low carb is purely water weight. Of course that if you eat low carb while staying on a deficit the weight you'll lose will be partly fat weight, which won't be gained back if you don't eat at a surplus afterwards when you go back to a 'normal' diet.
What I meant is that if you eat low carb, you'll lose more water weight at first than on any other diet (with diet I mean way of eating, not as in 'the asparagus diet') since carbs are more prone to making your body retain water (please correct me if I'm wrong, this is based on my own research).
Sorry if I didn't express myself well, I didn't mean to spread inaccurate information, all I wanted was to state that fat loss is calories in, calories out and pretty much nothing else, so the diet you follow is not really relevant for that matter (unless we're talking about nutrients, but that's another topic).0 -
I read online that eating I diet high in fat and low in carbs puts your body in something called ketosis which makes you burn fat more efficiently. Is this true?
Or you could just eat less food and move some more. Just a random thought that something simpler and more sustainable for life could work. I know controversial idea0 -
FreshStartForMyself wrote: »The weight loss due to low carb intake is mainly water weight, what really matters is calories in, calories out.
Eat nutrient dense foods and other foods that you like, stay in a caloric deficit, and you will lose weight.
I started at 165. I'm 145 now. I'm pretty sure that I didn't lose 20 lbs of water. Maybe 5ish lbs of water, but definitely not 15-20. Yes, the initial loss at the start is water, but the rest is actual weight, meaning fat.
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elisa_rush wrote: »It depends on your metabolism, although it's probably not healthy to stay in ketosis.
Unless your doctor tells you otherwise, it is perfectly safe to stay in ketosis for extended periods of time.
I think the misconception is the high fat phrase...
Consider:
low carb + low fat + calorie deficit = weight loss + high food volume
The goal is to lose weight, get healthy, and maintain it.
If you really read literature on Atkins or the South Beach diets, they do NOT recommend eating high fat food even if it's low carb, both recommend high volume - low carb foods found in certain vegetables, berries, and proteins.
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ladymiseryali wrote: »FreshStartForMyself wrote: »The weight loss due to low carb intake is mainly water weight, what really matters is calories in, calories out.
Eat nutrient dense foods and other foods that you like, stay in a caloric deficit, and you will lose weight.
I started at 165. I'm 145 now. I'm pretty sure that I didn't lose 20 lbs of water. Maybe 5ish lbs of water, but definitely not 15-20. Yes, the initial loss at the start is water, but the rest is actual weight, meaning fat.
And the initial loss on non-lc WOEs is also mostly water weight the first week. I never understand why people act like that's some big scam. LCer loses 8lbs the first week, non LCer loses 5lbs the first week, they're still losing mostly water weight and 1-2lbs of fat. They'll still both gain that 3-6lbs back if they give up and go back to their original WOE.0 -
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elisa_rush wrote: »It depends on your metabolism, although it's probably not healthy to stay in ketosis.
Unless your doctor tells you otherwise, it is perfectly safe to stay in ketosis for extended periods of time.
I think the misconception is the high fat phrase...
Consider:
low carb + low fat + calorie deficit = weight loss + high food volume
The goal is to lose weight, get healthy, and maintain it.
If you really read literature on Atkins or the South Beach diets, they do NOT recommend eating high fat food even if it's low carb, both recommend high volume - low carb foods found in certain vegetables, berries, and proteins.
I've never heard anyone say that before. Can you link me to something stating that?
I would also be interested in seeing an official Atkins or SB source that doesn't advocate high fat, since that's what's on their websites. SB just differentiates by calling them "good" and "bad".0 -
ladymiseryali wrote: »FreshStartForMyself wrote: »The weight loss due to low carb intake is mainly water weight, what really matters is calories in, calories out.
Eat nutrient dense foods and other foods that you like, stay in a caloric deficit, and you will lose weight.
I started at 165. I'm 145 now. I'm pretty sure that I didn't lose 20 lbs of water. Maybe 5ish lbs of water, but definitely not 15-20. Yes, the initial loss at the start is water, but the rest is actual weight, meaning fat.
Please read my previous comment on this post. I didn't express myself well, sorry.0 -
Perhaps the biggest reason people eating low-carb diets sometimes lose more weight is that they also tend to eat more protein. Studies have repeatedly found that when people eat more protein, they feel fuller and spontaneously eat fewer calories without knowing it.
People on low-carb diets often eat more total protein and fat, which helps blunt their appetite. In contrast, the people in the high-carb groups in these studies are often eating lots of refined carbs which tend to be far less filling. In fact, studies have shown that it’s actually the high protein content of the diet that helps control appetite and cause weight loss, not the avoidance of carbs.
1. When people are in a caloric deficit, they always lose weight.
2. When people are in a caloric surplus, they always gain weight.
Basically CICO is the only thing that really matters concerning actual weight-loss. Your dietary preference should be something that is both healthy and something you can adhere to.
For a good break down of how calories count I recommend reading the information contained in the link below...
http://evidencemag.com/why-calories-count/0 -
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Caloric deficit = weight loss.
Yup.
The only thing is that fat and protein are more filling than carbs. So typically, if you eat more fat and protein, you're less hungry, so you eat less, so it's easier to lose weight.
I could never do low carb though, for me having some complex carbs with my fat and protein makes me fuller.
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