Weight loss has stopped/plateaud
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gigglybeth wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »
That's just a coincidence
Because you know my body better then I do? I'm sure the 77 pounds I lost, without your input, were also coincidence.
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Well done on your weight loss.gigglybeth wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »
That's just a coincidence
Because you know my body better then I do? I'm sure the 77 pounds I lost, without your input, were also coincidence.
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1. If you opened up your diary people could see where you're at with calories, macronutrients and possible deviations from proper logging. Sliding from proper logging is a very common problem. At the worst you'll need to readjust your calories.
2. Don't change anything for at least a month. We all go up and down, retain and lose. Three weeks of no weight loss is not the end of the world. Don't change what you're doing yet unless you find you're fudging your numbers somewhere. It could be anything at this point.
3. Congratulations on your weight loss!
4. I like lists.
5. If you're not doing some form of strength training I would suggest it. Ladies classes are generally cardio heavy and weight light. If you're totally set on group exercise look for women on weights, kettlebell and/or boot camp classes that are functional fitness (bodyweight exercises) heavy. The "ideal" in many folks' eyes would be do find a barbell and figure out how to pick it up and put it down.
One of the classes I do uses kettlebells and another one uses 2kg hand weights so 2/3 hours of my training is weight based. The rest is cardio. I love the exercise I do so am reluctant to change anything. Will continue you as I have been doing for now and pay close attention to weighing food and logging.0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »gigglybeth wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »
No, because eating less sugar doesn't cause weight loss. Eating more protein doesn't cause weight loss. Eating fewer calories than you burn does cause weight loss, and is the only factor that causes weight loss.
Again, I'm giving my opinion on what worked FOR ME. If you don't agree, hey that's super. I don't really care. Instead of focusing on me, why not help out the OP?
Like I said, it worked for you because it was a coincidence. So the the advice of eating less sugar and more protein wouldn't help the OP. So pointing out something that isn't going to work is helping the OP.
I agree with you on this. I think it's critical that people are allowed to point out flaws in responses because poor advice to an OP is worse than no advice.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »My body handles 100 calories of eggs differently from 100 calories of apple juice. In fact, the only time I'm allergic to cats is when I've been eating too much sugar. YMMV.
The OP was looking for suggestions and gigglybeth's was a perfectly reasonable one.
So you're saying because you think eating less sugar helped reduce your cat allergies that if OP ate less sugar she would break a weight loss plateau? That logic is perfectly sound, right?!0 -
Thanks for all the advice! I'm going to carry on as I have been doing for a few more weeks. Hopefully it will start to shift soon
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Keep on doing what you're doing and give it time. If you've consumed a lot of sodium lately, you may be retaining some water weight. If you'd like to open your diary, we can tell you if there are any incorrect entries (there are some that are wrong in the database).I've not lost any weight in the past 3 weeks.
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Congratulations on your success so far. Understand that you are now thinner and more fit. So you are burning fewer calories when you exercise and at rest, so small errors in tracking will have greater impact than they would have 100 pounds ago. I always reduce exercise intensity because I believe that this tool gives me too much credit for calories burned during exercise, (comparing it to estimates I get when I use a heartrate monitor.) So, when I walk 4.5 MPH, I log 4 MPH, when I bike at 15-16 MPH, I log it as 12-14, and when I do a 45 minute Taekwondo class, I credit myself for 30-35 minutes. I also find it helps to look critically at calories assigned to food. Just yesterday, while logging my dinner I was given estimates 100 calories apart for the same food item (pork loin, grilled). My strategy is to use the higher estimate unless I have information telling me the higher estimate is wrong.
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galgenstrick wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »My body handles 100 calories of eggs differently from 100 calories of apple juice. In fact, the only time I'm allergic to cats is when I've been eating too much sugar. YMMV.
The OP was looking for suggestions and gigglybeth's was a perfectly reasonable one.
So you're saying because you think eating less sugar helped reduce your cat allergies that if OP ate less sugar she would break a weight loss plateau? That logic is perfectly sound, right?!
My point is that if one is at a plateau, the suggestion to tweak one's macros is perfectly reasonable.
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kshama2001 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »My body handles 100 calories of eggs differently from 100 calories of apple juice. In fact, the only time I'm allergic to cats is when I've been eating too much sugar. YMMV.
The OP was looking for suggestions and gigglybeth's was a perfectly reasonable one.
So you're saying because you think eating less sugar helped reduce your cat allergies that if OP ate less sugar she would break a weight loss plateau? That logic is perfectly sound, right?!
My point is that if one is at a plateau, the suggestion to tweak one's macros is perfectly reasonable.
Explain. So you are saying if a person has reached a plateau eating the same number of calories but changing macros will cause them to start losing again?0 -
"Will cause" - no. "Might case" - worth a try.0
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kshama2001 wrote: »"Will cause" - no. "Might case" - worth a try.
How?0 -
All people are going to tell you (and I know because my situation is exactly the same as yours) is to weigh your food. When you tell them you do they'll tell you you're doing it wrong. If you say you're 100% sure you're doing it right they'll tell you to lower your calories, which is probably the answer until you eventually need to make them so low to get the scale to move that other people will tell you how dangerously low your calories are and to eat more. That will of course make your weight stall or go up again.
Interesting. This didn't happen to me at all. I waited it out and started losing again. I regularly stall for 3 weeks and then have a "whoosh" and lose 3 or more pounds at once. If you eat less than you burn, you will lose weight because science.0 -
Look, the standard for suggestions here isn't "Must be FDA approved after a double blind clinical study" - it's "No Promotion of Unsafe Weight-Loss Techniques or Eating Disorders." So I think all these challenges to the "try eating less sugar" suggestion are silly and I'm not going to address them anymore.0
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One must use entirely scientific terms to describe one's own experience? O...K...
I had the same experience when I first used MFP. I'd lose 1/2 # per week, or nothing, and then have a multi pound drop.0 -
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ncboiler89 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »"Will cause" - no. "Might case" - worth a try.
How?
1. Protein has a higher TEF. Although the end result is minimal net calorie difference daily, it adds up over long periods of time.
2. Tinkering with macros is good. Some people experience better workouts or find they just enjoy eating slightly off the normally recommended amounts, and are therefore more likely to successfully stick to the deficit long-term.
3. Protein is more satiating than sugar, which may lead to less binging.
4. Increasing protein while decreasing carbs during a deficit can lead to lower glycogen levels, therefore less water retention. People often mistake increased water retention for stalling bodyfat loss during a deficit.
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"Whoosh" being an entirely scientific term. O...K...All people are going to tell you (and I know because my situation is exactly the same as yours) is to weigh your food. When you tell them you do they'll tell you you're doing it wrong. If you say you're 100% sure you're doing it right they'll tell you to lower your calories, which is probably the answer until you eventually need to make them so low to get the scale to move that other people will tell you how dangerously low your calories are and to eat more. That will of course make your weight stall or go up again.
Interesting. This didn't happen to me at all. I waited it out and started losing again. I regularly stall for 3 weeks and then have a "whoosh" and lose 3 or more pounds at once. If you eat less than you burn, you will lose weight because science.
EDIT: Any scientific studies on this whoosh you speak of? Also I never said you won't lose weight if you eat less than you burn. Only that eventually some people have to drop their calories so low that the number seems crazy. This seems to be a theme with people who have lost very large amounts of weight. I've lost over 135lbs. I'm still 230ish. To lose less than a pound a week I have to eat 1800-2000 calories. All that and work out 4-5 days a week.
Um, no? I just said that the experience you described wasn't mine. I put "whoosh" in quotes exactly because it's not a scientific term. And it's what happened to me, why would there be studies on it? :laugh:
ETA: The science comment referred to calories in, calories out, which you seem to agree with so I am not entirely sure why you're being so belligerent about it.0 -
All people are going to tell you (and I know because my situation is exactly the same as yours) is to weigh your food. When you tell them you do they'll tell you you're doing it wrong. If you say you're 100% sure you're doing it right they'll tell you to lower your calories, which is probably the answer until you eventually need to make them so low to get the scale to move that other people will tell you how dangerously low your calories are and to eat more. That will of course make your weight stall or go up again.
Interesting. This didn't happen to me at all. I waited it out and started losing again. I regularly stall for 3 weeks and then have a "whoosh" and lose 3 or more pounds at once. If you eat less than you burn, you will lose weight because science.
Same here.
Now, while I think some of the specifics of what was said in regards to macro tweaking in this thread was bunk, I was given advice by SideSteel that possibly reducing carbs (in general, not sugar specifically) by about what worked out at the time to be 10-15% of my intake at the time might get things moving again.
However, the scale moved before I had a chance to implement his suggestion.
I also agree with the advice that a 2 pound a week weight loss goal is too aggressive.
Lastly, OP, how long have you been eating at a deficit? Have you ever taken diet breaks?
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ncboiler89 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »"Will cause" - no. "Might case" - worth a try.
How?
1. Protein has a higher TEF. Although the end result is minimal net calorie difference daily, it adds up over long periods of time.
2. Tinkering with macros is good. Some people experience better workouts or find they just enjoy eating slightly off the normally recommended amounts, and are therefore more likely to successfully stick to the deficit long-term.
3. Protein is more satiating than sugar, which may lead to less binging.
4. Increasing protein while decreasing carbs during a deficit can lead to lower glycogen levels, therefore less water retention. People often mistake increased water retention for stalling bodyfat loss during a deficit.
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